Trash

[Die Hard]

I've always known this but lately it's becoming really apparent to me that most women are TRASH!

Mostly, you don't find out so quickly. Coz when you meet them and they feel attracted to you, they will act very sweet, smile a lot, flirt a lot, show nothing but attractive behavior. Usually, their TRASHINESS will show a little later, throughout texting or the first date(s) etc.

But through experience I have become able to see through the facade many of them put up the moment we first meet. In a way, it's a good thing coz I'm becoming so much better at quickly judging the value of women. I can sift through the trash faster and prevent myself from wasting too much time with them, so I can find a "quality" woman sooner.

But at the same time, it's depressing. I notice that I don't even get excited anymore from a woman who shows interest, flirts with me and tries tro seduce me. It used to give me a good feeling and excite me! But now I notice I can't enjoy it anymore because I see through them and realize they're just TRASH!

Yuck! It disgusts me, makes me feel sad and hopeless. I've been approaching and interacting with quite a few women this last week and I felt like nexting them all! I considered none of them good enough for me, none of them worthy of my effort, none of them able to offer me anything of value.

In a sense, I guess I really am feeling like THE PRIZE and am not impressed by their beauty and attractive behavior. Bless me, I guess... Coz I used to force myself to act like the prize and tried to convince myself I was the prize, but now I GENUINELY feel like I am the prize and consider most women unworthy of me. That was the goal all along right? Fake it until you make it and force certain behavior until it becomes genuine behavior, as you think you shall become!
So maybe now I've become it..... But it doesn't make me happy at all!

I hope this is all just some backlash from the breakup between me and my plate last week. In a way it is, I notice I can't really enjoy new women yet because I first have to properly process the breakup. But at the same time, I know that's just part of it, the other part is real, I truly am realizing the low value of most women I encounter more clearly and vividly as time goes by.


Pfff, women are overrated!

 

[Desdinova]

I moved your thread out of the "Anything Else" forum...

I know you and I haven't seen eye-to-eye much lately, but this is what I've come to as well. Last year, I desperately needed to take a break from women. I was so damn frustrated with the lengthy string of garbage I was dating. I stayed single for 7 months. I didn't even want to date any women. I started enjoying my time alone and decided I was just going to take whatever woman fell into my lap. Someone I occasionally interact with set me up with her friend, and I decided to go for it. It was just more trash that I didn't want to deal with.

The mere idea of pursuing, dating and fvcking new women has turned into an unwanted chore for me. I have no desire to put all this effort into having a new GF who will likely turn out to be trash again. Dating was fun in my 20s and early 30s. Now I feel like a kid who's tired of playing with toys and wants to take on more mature projects.

The GF I have now is pretty damn good. I took her on simply because of High Score Theory. She pursued me for two years. Now she's at my place damn near all the time. She makes my lunch, does my dishes, cleans my house, cooks me dinner, and tries to fvck me daily. This woman is currently enhancing my life. If that continues, I'm certainly going to keep her around.

But I totally feel ya. The effort you put into dating isn't worth the lack of reward at the end. Dealing with her orbiters, dealing with her bull5hit, dealing with her disrespect, and dealing with her stupid behaviour is more of a pain in the ass, and the reward of sex just doesn't make up for it all.

 

[Die Hard]

Oh who cares about seeing eye to eye, I'm happy to see you happy man.

Experience is adding up and indeed, the hard part of chasing women seems to outweigh the fun part to me right now. I've been fvcking a lot lately and it left me to realize sex is overrated haha (I know I'll eat those words when I experience a long dry spell)

Breaking up with my plate last week has left me feeling cold and empty. She was giving me the girlfriend experience, but she was not the one I wanted that from. But the experience made me realize how much I want this with a woman who is right for it!

Having experienced how nice it is to have a caring woman at your side besides just having sex, makes me feel that chasing women JUST FOR SEX is not worth the effort. I wish I could find a woman that's right for me and who I'll have a great connection with. So now I notice myself losing interest in all the women who don't show potential for that... It's funny because this weekend I got quite some attention from several goodlooking women to the point where my buddy was jaleous of me. But I really didn't care about those women coz all they did was look good and act sexy. Superficial bullsh!t....

And to be honest, getting sex from women is hard enough, let alone finding a woman suitable for an LTR. I feel like giving up, lol.

That's not the philosophy I adhere to, I know I simply have to improve myself more if I don't like the situation. Giving up is not an option. But right now I just feel drained of my energy, empty inside en bordering depression. I thought it would help to get out there and chase women but that only made me more depressed...

But I totally feel ya. The effort you put into dating isn't worth the lack of reward at the end. Dealing with her orbiters, dealing with her bull5hit, dealing with her disrespect, and dealing with her stupid behaviour is more of a pain in the ass, and the reward of sex just doesn't make up for it all.

That's just it. I see so many red flags upon girls already during the first conversation when approaching them. Next thing they start to play hard to get about giving out their number or when they do give the number they start playing hard to get over text etc. and I think to myself "Seriously? You have nothing to offer me but sex, you stupid child. Do you really expect me to work for that?" I just next them at that point...

This reminds me of the advice given in Tenacity thread by members like taiyuu_otoko and guru1000, though. If you refuse to deal with "low quality" bytches and have high standards, you will eventually raise your own value and attract better quality.

I guess I'm about to find out whether that really holds true in practice. The thought offers me hope, coz right now I tend to think that nexting all these bytches will leave me all alone. I mean, even if I just chase them for sex I don't have that much succes and regularly go through dry spells for several months. So if I start nexting even more, I might end up having even longer dry spells....

But I hope that having higher standards and nexting all the unworthy women will just be one step back which leads to two steps forward!

I'm just so goddamn tired to go through the struggles right now...

 

[Desdinova]

I wish I could find a woman that's right for me and who I'll have a great connection with.

You really have to watch out for the whole "great connection" trap. I believe it's not in a man's best interest to have that "great connection". It has to come from the woman's side, NOT the man's side. I've been tossed away by women I had that "great connection" with. SHE is the one who needs to feel it. What the man needs to do is keep doing the things that he feels the need to get done. She is just there to help him along. You can have fun with her, do things together, but she's the one who has to feel that 'deep connection'. You just need to keep doing your thing.

The "great connection" just sets you up for a huge heartbreak. You can still care about a woman and love her, but you cannot have a deep-rooted investment in her. A man requires a helpful and supporting companion, NOT a soul-mate.

I've been fvcking a lot lately and it left me to realize sex is overrated

It is overrated. I have better sex with my hand. I'm starting to see sex as purely maintenance for a relationship. I don't even care if I get laid anymore, but I need to keep the GF content. I still enjoy making her feel good, but it's less about the pleasure I'm getting out of it.

But I really didn't care about those women coz all they did was look good and act sexy. Superficial bullsh!t....

The problem I get is I'm initially attracted to women physically, and then the reality of how much bull5hit I have to deal with hits me and makes me turn my head. I don't need additional stress and problems in my life, and most women are just a package full of it.

This reminds me of the advice given in Tenacity thread by members like taiyuu_otoko and guru1000, though. If you refuse to deal with "low quality" bytches and have high standards, you will eventually raise your own value and attract better quality.

I take a bit of a different opinion on that. I can do basic filtering at the beginning to eliminate the crap, but some women are good at hiding their crap until the relationship is well under way. The way I see it is no man should be rewarding problematic women with exclusivity. At the very moment you're having difficulties with her, drop her. It's a waste of your time and energy, and she doesn't fvcking deserve your attention nor your commitment.

It's difficult for me to buy into the "quality" argument. All of today's women are defective. You just need to figure out which defects you're willing to put up with. The pickings for good women today are slim enough. Asking for something of extreme high quality is going to leave you lonely. You need to figure out what you can put up with and what you require from you woman.

I also highly promote the idea of pursuing women under the age of 23. The closer you can get to the beginning of their dating experience, the better she's going to be. There's still crap in that age group and you still have to filter it out, but you're going to have better chances at finding someone decent. I have NEVER met a woman in my own age group that I could consider acceptable for a lengthy LTR.

So if I start nexting even more, I might end up having even longer dry spells....

Loneliness is a double-edged sword. Being without a date sucks. Fvcking incompatible women also sucks and still makes you feel lonely. The only advice I can give with regards to this is to spin plates when you're wanting a woman around, and taking a break when you start getting angry about all the garbage that you're dating.

 

[sodbuster]

I've been there for 6 years or so. Figured after the Divorce, it would be easy. Sex was, but a woman I wanted to move in with me? Still haven't found that American unicorn. Found one from Philippeans ..... she puts on a better act, have to see if it's real. I'll let you know if I ever get her here.

 

[hockeyfreak79]

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I think those men concerned with quality, both in their own lives and in women, will strike a balance; they approach women, but screen; they spend time with women, but also enjoy solitude; they value intimacy, but see in it more than sex. No scrap that. They have their core, and women are merely peripheral.

Hard to find the perfect society. Here in Korea, you find quality women. The problem is they tend to be a bit prudish. I think it's quite a different game here.

 

[backbreaker]

one thing i had bad when i was single is i would overlook ovbious red flags not so much becuase i wanted sex but becuase i wanted to believe i could change them and they just needed a chance. yeah **** that. people are how they becuase that's exactly how they want to be.


Do they have a job? Is it a good job? How do they make money?
What is their relationship with their parents like?
What are their hobbies and what do they do for fun?
Do they do what they say they are going to do when they say they are going to do it (i'm a stickler for this for everyone in my life, you lie, bye)
what is their wardrobe, hygiene and cleanliness like?


5 very hard line questions. any unacceptable answer to any of these bye.

 

[backbreaker]

The problem that a woman doesn't do things to get their NEEDS met, they do things to get their WANTS met.

 

[skinnyguy]

I am attracted to less than 10% of women. Most either aren't good looking or have a terrible personality. That's why I go for months being single. I could get laid if I wanted to but it's not worth it.

 

[skinnyguy]

I'll guess that those 10% are all blonde white women. You have them on such a pedestal.

Then you decide to move house to get laid. Don't denigrate getting laid, just because you can't.

Don't expect to talk sh*t on multiple other threads, and not have it follow you.

lol I do?

Here's who I'm attracted to:

1) Latinas
2) Hawaiian girls
3) Indian girls

 

[The Duke]

Just because one might be attracted to less than 10pct of the population doesn’t mean they put them on a pedestal. Its simply what you prefer. I find myself in that same boat, and I’d rather go without if what I want isn’t available. Just don’t care to compromise on looks or quality. I’ve tried it before and couldn’t stay interested physically or mentally. I also don’t need to have a woman(or multiple women) around to make me feel good and keep life interesting. I have other interests that satisfy me.

I’ve been there, done that. I prefer more depth these days. My expectations/requirements are at an all time high. I either get what I want or go bang a hooker if I need to satisfy a sechsual urge. I’ve grown past “hot and fun”, I want more from a female these days.

Its perfectly ok too, everybody is at different stages with different desires.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

There are quality women out there. You won't find them in bars or OLD though.

 

[sazc]

can I sincerely apologize for the sh1tty women you have been exposed to? I can only imagine that they absofvukinglutely suck. I hate that their sh1ttyness has gotten you to the point u are at b/c when chill chicks do cross your path you probably have your defenses up and they move along.

Hang in there, a quality one will come your way. Just change your boundaries, what you will and wont accept from a chick, and the universe will change what she sends you.

I really want to say, on behalf of all the f'ed up chicks, I am sorry and I wish it could be different for you.

 

[SgtSplacker]

This is why I don't understand why men put women they don't even know on the pedestal. If you really know a girl and think she's awesome that's cool. But for someone you don't even know it doesn't make sense.

In my experience most of the really pretty ones are just completely the worst people around. When I look at a girl I look for flaws instead of looks. Because a pretty girl with a couple flaws may just be down to earth enough to actually act like a human being should and keep me physically interested.

 

[King of Action]

I thought I was the only person on the planet going thru this sh!t. SoSuave educated me so well, I immediately start mentally analyzing them after a few times of hanging out. I do my DJ techniques (eye contact, pay for the first date, don't call too often, push-pull, ****y-funny, kino...etc.) and by the second date, they bring up sex at some point. Sad thing about that is I'm not even attracted to her yet.

It takes less effort to see a woman true side. Having SoSuave knowledge is like what a lot of women say about men, women seem to be all the same.

 

[Roober]

This thread is depressing... there is quality women out there, it is just a matter of what you are willing to compromise with. I just got dumped by a girl with some red flags, but she had enough good qualities to make up for it. If you want a relationship, and your looking for a "perfect" woman, you will be looking for a long time.

I dunno, maybe I am in the minority, but I think lots of relationships can work, it is just a matter of whether or not both parties are willing to. Attractive women are definitely more difficult because they know they don't have to put up with as much... as their looks begin to fade, they find a pawn or an complete ashhat that will do everything for them...

When you think about it, attractive women are like DJs in that they believe they are high value. The difference is DJs are living life for themselves, where the women base their value on how much attention they get from men. It is kind of sad when you think about it.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Yup... My experience is you get more quality women if you dont compromise on anything. If they know the rules and that you are firm on them, they will try harder to please.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

I thought I was the only person on the planet going thru this sh!t. SoSuave educated me so well, I immediately start mentally analyzing them after a few times of hanging out. I do my DJ techniques (eye contact, pay for the first date, don't call too often, push-pull, ****y-funny, kino...etc.) and by the second date, they bring up sex at some point. Sad thing about that is I'm not even attracted to her yet.

It takes less effort to see a woman true side. Having SoSuave knowledge is like what a lot of women say about men, women seem to be all the same.

Yes the techniques work the same... Doesn't mean women are the same. I know some awesome women, the woman I am seeing I would definitely describe her as quality although that is pretty subjective. As proven in other threads what men think of as quality varies hugely.