Are red pill men capable of loving a woman?

[SkrooU]

The older I get, the less I seem able to feel love for a woman. I've been burning through women pretty quick. I guess you could say I'm "emotionally unavailable", almost. I don't dislike women. I don't feel hatred towards them. I just can't seem to feel "love". And I've been getting pretty cold with how I end things. Today, I just pulled this really immature type move with someone I got bored with. I slept with her once, it was good, and I hung out with her yesterday. She kept wanting shirtless pictures of me. I just got bored and started sending her pictures of morbidly obese men until she stopped texting me. It was rude and I just couldn't seem to care. And just the other day I was thinking "this chick is really pretty sweet. I think I'll get to know her better".

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Your mindset is like a "hot girl". This is something they'd do. They feel no guilt, shame or concern.

 

[ubercat]

I confess I struggle with this one too. Every relationship is like an episode of The Walking Dead. It's good for a while and then I just start wondering when she's going to turn

 

[sodbuster]

Probably are capable of love, but it's NOT as deep as it was at 18. we are more careful and guarded. We can be in love without ever losing ourselves to "the relationship"

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Your mindset is like a "hot girl". This is something they'd do. They feel no guilt, shame or concern.

So does Game [beating a woman at her own games] emasculate us then?

And what's a 'red pill' man anyway? Someone who sees reality, or someone who has swallowed a pyschadelic pill... thinking they see... but in reality are stuck in the cave of their own cogito seeing shadows on the wall.

Emotion is real. Every bit as real as reason. The state of our own inner life tells us that every day. The life purged of emotion began with the Puritans, reached its apogee with the Rationalists... and ended with the Decadents. ha ha

 

[mrgoodstuff]

So does Game [beating a woman at her own games] emasculate us then?

And what's a 'red pill' man anyway? Someone who sees reality, or someone who has swallowed a pyschadelic pill... thinking they see... but in reality are stuck in the cave of their own cogito seeing shadows on the wall.

Emotion is real. Every bit as real as reason. The state of our own inner life tells us that every day. The life purged of emotion began with the Puritans, reached its apogee with the Rationalists... and ended with the Decadents. ha ha

I didn't say it demasculates males. Your running a higher level game than the "hot girls" and playing them instead of being played. These women shouldn't be desired as partners or counted on in any way. They are what they are.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I didn't say it demasculates males. Your running a higher level game than the "hot girls" and playing them instead of being played. These women shouldn't be desired as partners or counted on in any way. They are what they are.

That's cool. It is what it is, and not the pinnacle of masculine existence.

Personally, I think you are lowering yourself when bothering with these types of girls. And that's where self-development and game come into conflict. Too many here are conflating the two.

OK, I will go back to the Mature Man forum now.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Just because women become simpler to understand or deal with, doesn't mean they can't be loved or that just because you see hypergamy everywhere doesn't mean you can't love (although it is harder to find someone worthy of your love). It just means that love is on your terms.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Just because women become simpler to understand or deal with, doesn't mean they can't be loved or that just because you see hypergamy everywhere doesn't mean you can't love (although it is harder to find someone worthy of your love). It just means that love is on your terms.

This comes back to what we mean by love. Interestingly, many here on a thread recently were not enthusiasts of it, or pleaded ignorance of it. Perhaps that is because when you truly love something, it can not simply be 'on your terms'. There seems to be a loss of self involved, or a liberation from the ego, which would otherwise seek to control everything.

 

[MrAddiction]

Does love at least exist. If hypergamy is the main drive Woman follow - what is love than? Just some euphemism for hypergamy? How will the concept of Love and hypergamy otherwise work together?
Maybe man are capable of love- until they swallow the red pill. How are you gonna be able to trust the deep feelings of a woman for you, knowing the concept of hypergamy and that if you once don't perform enough she is gone. Not to mention all the stories here, where women left their SO when their men were at their deepest?
How will one confirm himself to believe in love?
Is falling in love at least not some bluepill memory that we all wish we could keep. Does not the red pill essentially demand to not fall in Love?
You can not fall in love with caution- falling in love means all or nothing.
And that would mean to give yourself away in total to one person.
That exactly is the opposite of spinning plates!
Love in the ordinary sense is blue pill.

Always remember woman like the feeling to be in love while men tend to really be in love with the the girl.
That specifies one Importanz difference: for women the focus is on them - for men the focus is in the SO.
And that is one thing the red pill teaches is men, to more focus on ourselfes.

Conclusion for me: being in love with a girl in a traditional sense is impossible for someone totaly redpill!
How will you deeply in love and at the same time willing to walk away at any time.
Love is addiction!
Addiction is not to walk away from at the blink of an eye.
Love=addiction=oneitis=bluepill.

MrAddict

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

What captivates you? What is your ultimate concern? The so-called truth of your precious little 'red pill', where you doubt the existence of everything that may exist outside the grasp of your own defensive ego.. or the instinctual desire to love someone?

 

[The Duke]

The older I get, the less I seem able to feel love for a woman. I've been burning through women pretty quick. I guess you could say I'm "emotionally unavailable", almost. I don't dislike women. I don't feel hatred towards them. I just can't seem to feel "love". And I've been getting pretty cold with how I end things.

I’m not convinced there is such a thing as true “love” although a mother’s love for her son would come close.

In reality, love with a woman is pretty conditional and quite selfish. Every single one of them eventually wants something and they are rarely content. Why would you want that?
I’ve felt this way for a long while now, but to me it is just a side effect of gaining more knowledge than 95% of the population. I’ve taken the blinders off, and I’m ok with that. Having knowledge is better than the alternative.

 

[MrAddiction]

What captivates you? What is your ultimate concern? The so-called truth of your precious little 'red pill', where you doubt the existence of everything that may exist outside the grasp of your own defensive ego.. or the instinctual desire to love someone?

Instinctual desire to Love someone, that is exactly the point. Men are the way more romantic sex. Women are more pragmatic - that's what nature programmed them to. Question also is, is that really an instinctual desire to Love someone or is this (believe) programmed by culture - like Deesade stated, what about the desire to screw other women.
The red pill is to arm men against the game instinctually played by women to get the best possible male for breeding.
You have got two possibilities. Play by the rules and always fall in Love again and end up heartbroken or take the so called red pill and see how game and hypergamy is at work, use it on your terms and get your share of pxxn. And not to forget the red pill is to, using the famous anti-dump term, 'protect that heart'.
On one or the other point everybody here had been Heartbroken so badly, that he was fed up with always repeading the vicious circle. The red pill is the way out of this circle. Take it or leave it - but, as said in the Matrix, there is no way back.
If you want to put it this way: protecting that Heart is the ultimate concern!

MrAddict

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Maybe we have different definitiins of love. Feeling joy or deep happiness when we are with a person, a deep connection, bliss.... None of these require complete abandonement of self-respect or frame.
If we can take the red pill isn't it possible for women to reject their hypergamoys natures too and become capable of long term commitment...?

 

[MrAddiction]

Maybe we have different definitiins of love. Feeling joy or deep happiness when we are with a person, a deep connection, bliss.... None of these require complete abandonement of self-respect or frame.
If we can take the red pill isn't it possible for women to reject their hypergamoys natures too and become capable of long term commitment...?

Possible maybe - but why would women want to do that? Men take the red pill, because Blue pill doesn't serve them at best. But hypergamy already serves womens best interest. Sad but true.

 

[Alvafe]

I say you can still love a woman, but are very less inclined to condone bad behavior, and will more likely lose that love when you start to notice she is not a quality one to keep around, and with more experience you are quicker to notice if she is quality or not

 

[Who Dares Win]

I consider myself capable to love a woman but at the same time if there are signs of cheating, manipulation or any other sh1t the conscious brain takes over and jam any emotion.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Possible maybe - but why would women want to do that? Men take the red pill, because Blue pill doesn't serve them at best. But hypergamy already serves womens best interest. Sad but true.

I dont know. Ask the ladies at red pill women. Maybe they want to be a quality woman for a quality man anf are aware of what they need to do to earn a mans trust and affection... Just a thought.

 

[MrAddiction]

Did not know there is such a thing as redpill women- what Do they Do there?
Depending on what they do there an interesting thought!
But:
WE here as redpill men are trying to reembrace our nature as males and to get the culturale disneyesque misinformation out of our system - hard enough.
If redpill women are trying to get against their nature of the hypergamy - I would asume it much harder than that what we try to do, if not even impossible.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

You could argue that it is in men's natures to be blue pill providers. After all, the majority of men seem to want to do it and have done it for 1000's of years.
Although I don't regret swallowing the red pill maybe it is us fighting against our natures.