FR: Girl with boyfriend, Heavy resistance.

[Skyline]

Good man. Let me tell you what "may" have happened here:

She is on rocky Terms with her boyfriend, things aren't going well. They are "taking a break". She needs a way to hurt him, and regain his attention by making him jealous and getting him thinking she is leaving.

"Hmmmm.....how to do this???? I KNOW!! I will " like" an orbiter's Facebook stuff, so he gets his hopes up and asks me out.

That way....I can be seen dating, in public, and make my Boyfriend jealous, have him running back. Yep, that's what I will do"


You were likely used in a silly game of hers. Women are absolutely ruthless and selfish when it comes to their wants and needs.

Put it behind you and move on.

My advice is don't be so Thirsty .......if on a date, you hold hands and kiss her, great. You will get to sex soon enough. Coming across as thirsty , desperate, moving too fast....etc....is a HUGE turn off to women. It screams that you are thirsty and lack options.

If they are hot to trot, you will know. If not, act indifferent. Lots of women out there, no need to force things with any one of them.

Whatever her intentions were, I'm sure it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure if my escalation came off as rushed and consistent based on how I wrote it, but it was actually slow. There were very big gaps between no escalation and small escalation that lead up to bigger escalations. And sometimes I didn't escalate at all. I personally think my error wasn't in the escalation department but the fact that I was dumb to take a girl out whom had a boyfriend.

But like I keep saying, we click pretty well and I actually enjoyed her company and the movie. Plus I got some experience and advice out of it from being challenged.

 

[marmel75]

Hmm...I'm not sure about what to even say about this. Nothing wrong with you going for it, but I think I would have put her on the spot once she said "You know I have a boyfriend, right?".
"Then why are you out with me right now?" would have been my response and then I would have looked her in the eyes and shut up until she said something. Seemed to me she was using you for attention or a way to make her boyfriend jealous, and you kinda played right into it. Plus she also got the ego boost of shutting you down repeatedly.

Also unsure why you are taking her to the movies...drinks would have been the play here...if you had any hope of anything going on with this chick it would have happened once she had a drink or two in her to relax her inhibitions, not while sitting in a movie theater.

 

[Skyline]

Hmm...I'm not sure about what to even say about this. Nothing wrong with you going for it, but I think I would have put her on the spot once she said "You know I have a boyfriend, right?".
"Then why are you out with me right now?" would have been my response and then I would have looked her in the eyes and shut up until she said something. Seemed to me she was using you for attention or a way to make her boyfriend jealous, and you kinda played right into it. Plus she also got the ego boost of shutting you down repeatedly.

Also unsure why you are taking her to the movies...drinks would have been the play here...if you had any hope of anything going on with this chick it would have happened once she had a drink or two in her to relax her inhibitions, not while sitting in a movie theater.

Yeah, a lot of people seem to have pointed out that she was playing me. And it does look that way looking back at it. I agree that I should have put her on blast on why she was there with me.

I did set up a good opportunity for a future plate once her boyfriend dumps her. But I'm not sure if I would want a lying, cheating, wh*re at that point in the future...

She's against drinking.

A lot of people pointed out a ton of negatives but it didn't really feel that bad during the date. I actually had some fun. She did set the limit of the escalation but I still escalated nonetheless. But right now, I have her blocked on eveything and have no intentions on ever reaching out to her.

I can't say that I will or will not respond to her if she reaches out to me, but I'll make a new thread about it if that day comes. I have never actually had a girl use me like this before so it is definitely a wake up call.

Another thing to note, her boyfriend is cheating and lying to her. I remember before our social circle broke up she brought up him talking to other girls for whatever reason. Her going through his phone kind of implies that it has gotten worse. Kind of irronic how he does something she doesn't like and then she goes and does the exact same thing.

I mean I could tell him about her cheating on him but I think her dysfunctional relationship is going to end soon anyway.

 

[Igetit!]

Yeah, a lot of people seem to have pointed out that she was playing me. And it does look that way looking back at it. I agree that I should have put her on blast on why she was there with me.

I personally don't think she was playing you.......I think YOU messed things up here by being (or acting) too needy...(or thirsty) as Mauser said.

There was attraction there on her part for you...that,I know. I know that cause if there wasn't,she'd never have even gone out with you in the first place......she would have thrown out the "You know I have a boyfriend" line right there at the beginning.

It wasn't until after all your groping,neck grabbing,pinning her up against walls,and 6+ times trying to kiss her that she finally said,"I have a boyfriend"...and accused you of being a player. I mean damn...you grabbed the girl and tried to kiss her before she even got in your car.....then tried again AFTER she got in.

I did set up a good opportunity for a future plate once her boyfriend dumps her.

MAYBE. I do think she had interest....but you being all gropey and grabby may have turned her off.

But I'm not sure if I would want a lying, cheating, wh*re at that point in the future...

I see....you don't want a lying,cheating wh*re in the future.

......but you want one right now...right?

You can't have it both ways,man. You complain about her putting up "heavy resistance",yet...if the resistance goes away and she gives in,then she's a "lying cheating wh*re".

I can't say that I will or will not respond to her if she reaches out to me, but I'll make a new thread about it if that day comes. I have never actually had a girl use me like this before so it is definitely a wake up call.

I still don't think she used you. For what? I think you had enough "game" to generate interest in her,but once you got her on the date and turned into an octopus with 8 hands groping',grabbin,touchin',and trying to kiss her every 5 minutes,it turned her off....and she threw up the "boyfriend" excuse.

She could have done that from the getgo...but didn't. It wasn't until AFTER the date started that she did.

Another thing to note, her boyfriend is cheating and lying to her. I remember before our social circle broke up she brought up him talking to other girls for whatever reason. Her going through his phone kind of implies that it has gotten worse. Kind of irronic how he does something she doesn't like and then she goes and does the exact same thing.

Ok,umm.....what does any of that have to do with you?

I mean I could tell him about her cheating on him but I think her dysfunctional relationship is going to end soon anyway.

Man,don't do that...leave them people alone. If they wanna cheat and play games with each other,let them have at it....you just need to work on not being so desperate for female affection. You probably would have gotten somewhere farther with her if you hadn't started in on her from the second she got in the car.....and throughout the date

 

[Skyline]

I personally don't think she was playing you.......I think YOU messed things up here by being (or acting) too needy...(or thirsty) as Mauser said.

There was attraction there on her part for you...that,I know. I know that cause if there wasn't,she'd never have even gone out with you in the first place......she would have thrown out the "You know I have a boyfriend" line right there at the beginning.

It wasn't until after all your groping,neck grabbing,pinning her up against walls,and 6+ times trying to kiss her that she finally said,"I have a boyfriend"...and accused you of being a player. I mean damn...you grabbed the girl and tried to kiss her before she even got in your car.....then tried again AFTER she got in.




MAYBE. I do think she had interest....but you being all gropey and grabby may have turned her off.




I see....you don't want a lying,cheating wh*re in the future.

......but you want one right now...right?

You can't have it both ways,man. You complain about her putting up "heavy resistance",yet...if the resistance goes away and she gives in,then she's a "lying cheating wh*re".




I still don't think she used you. For what? I think you had enough "game" to generate interest in her,but once you got her on the date and turned into an octopus with 8 hands groping',grabbin,touchin',and trying to kiss her every 5 minutes,it turned her off....and she threw up the "boyfriend" excuse.

She could have done that from the getgo...but didn't. It wasn't until AFTER the date started that she did.



Ok,umm.....what does any of that have to do with you?



Man,don't do that...leave them people alone. If they wanna cheat and play games with each other,let them have at it....you just need to work on not being so desperate for female affection. You probably would have gotten somewhere farther with her if you hadn't started in on her from the second she got in the car.....and throughout the date

If she were single, I really don't think I would have had an issue. She knew I was flirty because we did talk often in our old social circle and knows how I act/do. I generally escalate in the beginning with single girls and it goes well. That's why I would assume she used me.

Like I said earlier, would have been better if I didn't escalate at all. In fact, I shouldn't have taken her out at all unless I asked if she was single. The escalation was very spanned out as well, I made it seem like I was doing it constantly but I was not. I know how to pace escalation at this point in time.

I'm still going to stand by my 'lying, cheating, wh*re' statement. She knew what type of guy I was and what would happen, or almost happen at least.

 

[pyros]

OP this is getting boring...

1 Everybody is telling you that you were TOO PUSHY. It doesnt matter if you let 20 minutes pass before one attempt and the next. You tried too many times. You should escalate and try a few times, BUT NOT SO MANY LIKE A HORNY DOG.
2 Dont you ever take a girl you haven't fvcked to the movies.
3 Dont you ever go on a date with a girl who has a boyfriend UNLESS SHE SHOWS CLEAR SIGNS THAT SHE REALLY LIKES YOU.
4 Stop convincing yourself that you did pretty well. You didn't.

So now you blocked her on everything...but if she contacts you some day (how exactly...? wasn't she blocked on everything? lol) you may...
Just forget about this one, and dont repeat the same mistakes again.