The 20% man.

[marmel75]

Most people I know that are immaculately neat suffer from some form of OCD...just saying..

You want to see something hilarious? Go take a pen out of its specified place when you are at one of those types of people's houses when they aren't looking and put it in a random spot...they will freak out and immediately grab it and put it back...then keep doing it with other things...same thing once they notice...

I had a buddy who was like that and I used to Fvck with him so bad back in the day...he caught on after the 4th or 5th thing...

No need to be immaculately neat. Just living in a clean house will suffice.

 

[fastlife]

@cola you're being really generous with the 20%. You really think 1 in 5 dudes possess even a handful those qualities or that 1 in 5 dudes can get consistent, effortless sex with women? Probably not 1 in 100. Maybe 1 in 1000. Not that I disagree with any of those points as something to strive for--but the price of admission is much lower than that.

IME I'd guess that around 30% of guys get some sort of sex in an exclusive relationship at any given point in time. 50% get no sex. 15% get sex sporadically (or consistently with unattractive women). 4.9% can spin plates that aren't totally unattractive. And maybe .01% of men have choice. But even the upper end of those numbers is probably generous.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

@cola you're being really generous with the 20%. You really think 1 in 5 dudes possess even a handful those qualities or that 1 in 5 dudes can get consistent, effortless sex with women? Probably not 1 in 100. Maybe 1 in 1000. Not that I disagree with any of those points as something to strive for--but the price of admission is much lower than that.

IME I'd guess that around 30% of guys get some sort of sex in an exclusive relationship at any given point in time. 50% get no sex. 15% get sex sporadically (or consistently with unattractive women). 4.9% can spin plates that aren't totally unattractive. And maybe .01% of men have choice. But even the upper end of those numbers is probably generous.

This is true, probably more than 1 in 1000, like say 1 in every 300 to 500 probably get it very easily. Well in the US anyways, I can't speak for other places.

A 20 percent man is capable of murder to protect his loved ones.

Do you mean the mindset to be able to kill are to be physically able to kill?

 

[marmel75]

@cola you're being really generous with the 20%. You really think 1 in 5 dudes possess even a handful those qualities or that 1 in 5 dudes can get consistent, effortless sex with women? Probably not 1 in 100. Maybe 1 in 1000. Not that I disagree with any of those points as something to strive for--but the price of admission is much lower than that.

IME I'd guess that around 30% of guys get some sort of sex in an exclusive relationship at any given point in time. 50% get no sex. 15% get sex sporadically (or consistently with unattractive women). 4.9% can spin plates that aren't totally unattractive. And maybe .01% of men have choice. But even the upper end of those numbers is probably generous.

Way more than that could via OLD...I'm no Brad Pitt and it was like shooting fish in a barrel for me. Now, if we are going to qualify that with getting consistent, effortless sex with a hot woman, then yes I'd agree...

If we are just talking about any woman, then no I don't...I was typically pulling 7s without much of an issue online, which isn't bad, but if I would have went lower in my standards then I could have been banging 3 chicks a day every day probably...just saying.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

If you frequent this site, regardless of your relationship status your goal should be to become a 20% man.

ABSOLUTELY TRUE. UNQUESTIONABLY TRUE.

Consider this. Humans split from chimps six million years ago. In the book, "Chimpanzee Politics" they found a DIRECT CORRELATION between social status and money (bananas or whatever) AND social status and sex. Higher status apes get more money, and they get more sex.

Women are HARD WIRED to be attracted to a man who is high social status.

Just as strongly as men are hard wired to get a boner at an 18 y/o hottie, ALL WOMAN are hard wired to get their juices flowing around a HIGH STATUS MALE.

High Social Status in all areas, or as many areas as possible, should be the GOAL of ALL MEN.

ALWAYS.

The days are over when religion promised one woman for every man. Society is crumbling, and social status means more than anything.

Life is a competition. When she, the hiring manager, the VC with cash for your potential business, whoever it is, they will ALWAYS be comparing you to EVERY OTHER MAN.

Your job, AS A MAN is do/be BETTER than every other man, and in EVERY WAY.

Life is a battle, there are no rules and the game is always ON.

 

[cola]

Do you mean the mindset to be able to kill are to be physically able to kill?

Imagine waking up to your sister screaming and the front door is kicked in and a 300 pound masked man is on top of her.. and you have a gun in your room..

 

[BeTheChange]

ABSOLUTELY TRUE. UNQUESTIONABLY TRUE.

Consider this. Humans split from chimps six million years ago. In the book, "Chimpanzee Politics" they found a DIRECT CORRELATION between social status and money (bananas or whatever) AND social status and sex. Higher status apes get more money, and they get more sex.

Women are HARD WIRED to be attracted to a man who is high social status.

Just as strongly as men are hard wired to get a boner at an 18 y/o hottie, ALL WOMAN are hard wired to get their juices flowing around a HIGH STATUS MALE.

High Social Status in all areas, or as many areas as possible, should be the GOAL of ALL MEN.

ALWAYS.

The days are over when religion promised one woman for every man. Society is crumbling, and social status means more than anything.

Life is a competition. When she, the hiring manager, the VC with cash for your potential business, whoever it is, they will ALWAYS be comparing you to EVERY OTHER MAN.

Your job, AS A MAN is do/be BETTER than every other man, and in EVERY WAY.

Life is a battle, there are no rules and the game is always ON.

Amen brother. You have to be better than the rest. There is no other way. Thankfully, most people are incredibly LAZY so it's not as hard as you'd think.

Here's a snippet for the evening. Had one plate (no. 1), a HB8, come over this afternoon as I was working from home. We had lunch then banged. Then I helped her with some work related things. I showered put on a nice shirt and jeans. Told her i was meeting a friend for drinks. She walked me to the station (and unwittingly to my next date). Yes that's right. One chick is literally escorting me to go fvck her competition.

I met plate no. 2. Cute, petite, Italiana (another HB8). We had a great time at an Indian restaurant then a romantic walk by the river. She was grabbing me, shy but wanting. Telling me how attractive I was. Kissing me and grabbing my abs and back muscles - 7 years in the gym and counting. Only our second date. But next date she'll be ready for the D. I'm on my way home in a cab now laughing at life.

This is my reality and there's no reason this cannot be anyone else's here. Anyone saying cola's central message is not achievable by the average guy on this site (if they work on themselves) is WRONG. It can be done. What a time to be alive.

 

[guru1000]

Wawawoowee, girl slapped me on the first date. That's a first. I gotta stop posting drunk

 

[SmooveMooves]

This is a good post.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Imagine waking up to your sister screaming and the front door is kicked in and a 300 pound masked man is on top of her.. and you have a gun in your room..

I'd prolly shoot him and go back to bed

 

[BeTheChange]

"Options, and the proven capacity to generate them, are the root of confidence. How do you say NO? Know that you can. It's much easier not to give a ƒuck, when you really don't give a ƒuck. There's always been this self-determined, self-recognition of valuing yourself and living up to something that looks like integrity from a great many contributors here on SS, but the question always remains - how do I achieve confidence? Cultivate options, and know, truly KNOW from prior experience that you have and can generate more if need be."

- Rollo Tomassi

 

[Tenacity]

If you frequent this site, regardless of your relationship status your goal should be to become a 20% man.

• A 20 percent man does not go on long discources or tyrades. He says exactly what he feels and is not concerned with sparing feelings.
• A 20 percent man does not argue. He says what needs to be said and then proceeds with approriate action.
• A 20 percent man is a master of self control.
• A 20 percent man will leave a woman when she no longer pleases him
• A 20 percent man does not make women a top priority.
• A 20 percent man is concerned in advancing his career.
• A 20 percent man is immaculately neat.
• A 20 percent man is not a clown. He will tell a joke but he is not concerned with entertaining women.
• A 20 percent man is always focused.
• A 20 percent man does not doubt himself.
• A 20 percent man does not stress.
• A 20 percent man is no coward. He will not be disrespected by man, woman, child, boss or coworker.
• A 20 percent man puts his own needs first. Sometimes this may make him act in ways some may deem amoral.
• A 20 percent man will not be made to do anything he doesn't want.
• A 20 percent man stays fit.
• A 20 percent man does not procrastinate.
• A 20 percent man is wise with finances.
• A 20 percent man does not give in to impulses
• A 20 percent man is capable of murder to protect his loved ones.
• A 20 percent man does not ask a woman permission for anything.
• A 20 percent man marches to the beat of his own drum. He is not influenced by society. He is not a sheep. He is a wolf.

Cola your 20% man is just the MALE unicorn. That's a nice list, but I want to know what's up with a section of folks on this forum that are OBSESSED with this unicorn/perfection stuff?

Here's the thing, one of the things that makes your favorite celebrity your FAVORITE celebrity, is not that they are perfect, it's that they are human. You can relate to them. You can see yourself in them.

Who relates to a unicorn? Tell me? I talk a lot about how 98% of women are fvcked up, well 98% of men are fvcked up.....but you know what? That's OK. Because we are all spiritual beings trying to live a human existence. Nobody has it all together, nobody will ever have it all together, and just when you THINK you have it all together, life will give you a situation that shows that you are still HUMAN.

Tenacity doesn't strive to be a unicorn, Tenacity strives to hit his major goals in life related to his written down/realistic financial goals, fitness goals, and dating/sex related goals. Tenacity will never be perfect. Tenacity will always have issues. Tenacity will always wake up in the morning and STRUGGLE with something, even if it's "old age" at 62.

You don't have to be perfect guys. You don't have to be a unicorn.

Really the honest truth is that you can be yourself, but you want to take the natural talents/looks/personality that you have and try to make them useful/efficient. If your personality is like MINE (which is goofy), then be GOOFY! Just control the shyt and learn how to make it work for you.

Women are HARD WIRED to be attracted to a man who is high social status.

High Social Status in all areas, or as many areas as possible, should be the GOAL of ALL MEN.

ALWAYS.

A bunch of keyboard jockey shyt. Women are HARD WIRED to be attracted to a man of high social status huh? I guess that explains why you see HB7 and higher black women dating 35 year old men who are broke, without a car, without a place to stay, living in his mother's basement?

Say what you want about Tenacity's "issues", at least I'm an actual human being. When I ask you information about who you are, how far a long you are on your unicorn journey, if you have found a unicorn, or anything else about you..........you avoid the question. Typical Keyboard Jockey shyt.

Have you even made one post about a woman you were dating or fvcking or anything in relation to the women in YOUR LIFE T.O.? I did a search, I didn't find much of anything.

 

[Atom Smasher]

You guys who are arguing percentages are adding a lot of unnecessary static to a solid thread. Forget the exact numbers. Cola is using approximations in order to get his larger point across. I would say it's similar to talking finances. To illustrate a larger concept regarding making millions I might say, "Let's say I have a thousand dollars"... The actual numbers are beside the point.

And yes, by far, most women are indeed bat-sh!t insane (referring to points made earlier). Women have lost their ability to reason because men have abdicated their role in moderating and guiding them. The majority of women are identical to children who have been abandoned and left to fend for themselves. These children are likely to become monsters. Women NEED limits and guidance because, unbridled, their emotions spread out and both consume and dissipate them. Women's minds literally dis-integrate without men's guidance and leadership. It's like having a cup of water and I suddenly make the containing cup disappear. The water collapses, spreads out, finds its own level, and dissipates into worthlessness. It has lost its integration. In like manner, women's minds have dis-integrated because the male container has retreated through fear.

 

[fastlife]

@Atom Smasher I brought numbers into it because most guys have a misconception that the competition is way stiffer than it really is--that everyone else's sex/relationship life is way better than it is--and that they still have to do X, Y, & Z before they can enjoy success with women. When in reality, just cultivating a handful of those qualities already gives you a huge leg up in the mating market--or at least (and probably more importantly) in your quality of happiness with your life, which will eventually provide some sort of benefit to your interactions with women.

Kind of like @Tenacity 's point about the myth of perfection. If 1 in 5 men already possessed those qualities, then any shortcomings would result in being at a significant disadvantage--and any perceived inferiority or self-doubt will become the reality for the women you interact with. So you have a false assumption backed up & reinforced constantly by experience; when if guys felt they were already good enough, then they probably would be--and then they could focus on self-improvement for the right reason: self-satisfaction and the masculine drive for achievement & challenge for its own sake.

 

[Tenacity]

Plus guys to add another viewpoint to this....which I hope doesn't get too off topic.

In my view, your RESULTS with a girl in particular, is weighted more towards things completely out of your control, v.s. things that you have direct control over.

What You Have Direct Control Over

- Your looks, your personality, your finances, and putting yourself out there socially to meet women everywhere.

What You Have Absolutely NO Control Over:

- A woman's upbringing such as having no Father in her life and bring raised by nothing but women, thus, creating a lot of low quality values within the woman in terms of how she treats you as a man/human being.

- A woman's view of the world. YOU can approach 10 girls the exact same way, but I guarantee you that 3 of them will see you one way, 3 will see you a completely different way, and the remaining 4 will see you completely different than how the other 6 did.

- A woman's personal issues, including her insecurities. Some women will fvck you on the first night because she really likes YOU and wants to keep you. Some will will fvck you on the first night because she's literally a slvt with internal issues. Some women will not fvck you for 6 months because she believes doing so will make you leave her.

- A woman's baggage, such as her bad financial issues, bad weight issues, multiple kids, her bitterness, etc.

You see it's guys like T.O. and others, who keep promoting this bullshyt about GAME and being a HIGH QUALITY MALE, and that in doing so you can somehow have much more control over this current market of women than "most guys do". It's complete bullshyt keyboard jockey shyt.

The vast majority of your results with an individual woman are COMPLETELY out of your control. All you can do is look the best you can, have a decent personality and with some decent finances. What happens with an individual woman after that is MAJORITY out of your control.

Again, approach 10 chicks.....4 of them can't stand you for reasons you have NO CONTROL over. 3 of them are lukewarm about you. 3 of them like you and are ready to date/potentially fvck you.

 

[marmel75]

Plus guys to add another viewpoint to this....which I hope doesn't get too off topic.

In my view, your RESULTS with a girl in particular, is weighted more towards things completely out of your control, v.s. things that you have direct control over.

What You Have Direct Control Over

- Your looks, your personality, your finances, and putting yourself out there socially to meet women everywhere.

What You Have Absolutely NO Control Over:

- A woman's upbringing such as having no Father in her life and bring raised by nothing but women, thus, creating a lot of low quality values within the woman in terms of how she treats you as a man/human being.

- A woman's view of the world. YOU can approach 10 girls the exact same way, but I guarantee you that 3 of them will see you one way, 3 will see you a completely different way, and the remaining 4 will see you completely different than how the other 6 did.

- A woman's personal issues, including her insecurities. Some women will fvck you on the first night because she really likes YOU and wants to keep you. Some will will fvck you on the first night because she's literally a slvt with internal issues. Some women will not fvck you for 6 months because she believes doing so will make you leave her.

- A woman's baggage, such as her bad financial issues, bad weight issues, multiple kids, her bitterness, etc.

You see it's guys like T.O. and others, who keep promoting this bullshyt about GAME and being a HIGH QUALITY MALE, and that in doing so you can somehow have much more control over this current market of women than "most guys do". It's complete bullshyt keyboard jockey shyt.

The vast majority of your results with an individual woman are COMPLETELY out of your control. All you can do is look the best you can, have a decent personality and with some decent finances. What happens with an individual woman after that is MAJORITY out of your control.

Again, approach 10 chicks.....4 of them can't stand you for reasons you have NO CONTROL over. 3 of them are lukewarm about you. 3 of them like you and are ready to date/potentially fvck you.

Add to this a woman's ovulation state/time of the month....science shows women prefer different types of guys at different times of the month based on where they are in their ovulation...and as you may have guessed...they are more attracted to the alpha/high testosterone bad boy when they are fertile...funny how nature and science coincide....

 

[cola]

Plus guys to add another viewpoint to this....which I hope doesn't get too off topic.

In my view, your RESULTS with a girl in particular, is weighted more towards things completely out of your control, v.s. things that you have direct control over.

What You Have Direct Control Over

- Your looks, your personality, your finances, and putting yourself out there socially to meet women everywhere.

What You Have Absolutely NO Control Over:

- A woman's upbringing such as having no Father in her life and bring raised by nothing but women, thus, creating a lot of low quality values within the woman in terms of how she treats you as a man/human being.

- A woman's view of the world. YOU can approach 10 girls the exact same way, but I guarantee you that 3 of them will see you one way, 3 will see you a completely different way, and the remaining 4 will see you completely different than how the other 6 did.

- A woman's personal issues, including her insecurities. Some women will fvck you on the first night because she really likes YOU and wants to keep you. Some will will fvck you on the first night because she's literally a slvt with internal issues. Some women will not fvck you for 6 months because she believes doing so will make you leave her.

- A woman's baggage, such as her bad financial issues, bad weight issues, multiple kids, her bitterness, etc.

You see it's guys like T.O. and others, who keep promoting this bullshyt about GAME and being a HIGH QUALITY MALE, and that in doing so you can somehow have much more control over this current market of women than "most guys do". It's complete bullshyt keyboard jockey shyt.

The vast majority of your results with an individual woman are COMPLETELY out of your control. All you can do is look the best you can, have a decent personality and with some decent finances. What happens with an individual woman after that is MAJORITY out of your control.

Again, approach 10 chicks.....4 of them can't stand you for reasons you have NO CONTROL over. 3 of them are lukewarm about you. 3 of them like you and are ready to date/potentially fvck you.

What I feel like guys are missing is my ideal of the 20% man has nothing to do with banging women.
More women who put up less resistance in dating and also the confidence to walk away from any woman because you know she won't find another you anytime soon is merely a byproduct. However its not the goal.

I want this forum to go more into a direction of male empowerment. Making men be the best they can be, not even for women.
I want us(the members here) to strive to be truly be magnanimous.
Admired by coworkers, admired by younger males, admired by friends and yes, ofcourse admired by women, because we are glorious.
And from the time we get out of bed we pursue excellence.
I dont care if you are a f*cking janitor. Be the best f*cking janitor in North America.

Thats the point of this post. The world doesn't revolve around women. Women were not the main contributors to science, technology, inventions, medicine, building the infastructure of the world..
We were. So tbh once reproduction is off the table they aren't really that important.

More women is just one motivating factor. No different from money or notoriety. Dare I say they should be the least motivating factor.
If you are notorious you can use the respect you have to influence people. Money isn't everything but used properly it can change the lives of the people you love for the better.
A vagina can only give you a 15 second orgasm.

Instead of money to get women how about working hard to afford to pay the college tuition of every young male of your family?
Is that not more admirable than multiple orgasms a week?

 

[Tenacity]

I want this forum to go more into a direction of male empowerment. Making men be the best they can be, not even for women.
I want us(the members here) to strive to be truly be magnanimous.

Admired by coworkers, admired by younger males, admired by friends and yes, ofcourse admired by women, because we are glorious.
And from the time we get out of bed we pursue excellence.
I dont care if you are a f*cking janitor. Be the best f*cking janitor in North America.

Instead of money to get women how about working hard to afford to pay the college tuition of every young male of your family?
Is that not more admirable than multiple orgasms a week?

Well, that's a very moral thing to promote there Cola, but I say fvck it.....instead of waking up everyday trying to to be "excellent" in the eyes of other people, wake up everyday looking to get WHAT YOU want out of life.

Here's the reality, you can never truly be excellent in the eyes of other people because people usually will build up somebody just to tear them back down.

- Look at Bill Cosby, all it took was a bunch of chicks accusing this man of shyt from 30 years ago and BAM.....all of that admiration is gone in a blink of an eye.

- Look at GW Bush. After 9-11, he was one of the most popular Presidents EVER. Then the financial crisis hit (which he had not a damn thing to do with) and all of his admiration was gone in a blink of an eye.

People will love you Monday and hate you Tuesday. Also in terms of leaving legacies, well, that's something to strive for if you have CHILDREN to pass wealth down to. Other than that, most people will have forgotten all about you less than 24 hours after they announce your death.

Our time on this Earth is short, very short, and we spend way too much time worrying about shyt that doesn't matter. At the end of the day, ALL that truly matters is that you try to GET out of this life what you want in a way that makes YOU happy. If that's building a business, then build it. If that's working in Corporate America, then do it. If that's children, then make them. If that's women, then date them.

But screw trying to be this beacon of light for the world......the world will prop you up Monday just to tear your a.ss down on Tuesday.

 

[cola]

Well, that's a very moral thing to promote there Cola, but I say fvck it.....instead of waking up everyday trying to to be "excellent" in the eyes of other people, wake up everyday looking to get WHAT YOU want out of life.
We are saying the same thing.
Here's the reality, you can never truly be excellent in the eyes of other people because people usually will build up somebody just to tear them back down.
False. People go about it wrong. People try to convince people they are great with words. People see your actions. If you put 110% effort in everything you do, people will notice.
- Look at Bill Cosby, all it took was a bunch of chicks accusing this man of shyt from 30 years ago and BAM.....all of that admiration is gone in a blink of an eye.
I believe he really did date rape those women.
- Look at GW Bush. After 9-11, he was one of the most popular Presidents EVER. Then the financial crisis hit (which he had not a damn thing to do with) and all of his admiration was gone in a blink of an eye.
False. People didn't lose respect for Bush because of the financial crisis. They lost admiration for him because he was our leader, yet had no solution for the financial crisis. Drink that statement in. I just gave you a gem.

People will love you Monday and hate you Tuesday. Also in terms of leaving legacies, well, that's something to strive for if you have CHILDREN to pass wealth down to. Other than that, most people will have forgotten all about you less than 24 hours after they announce your death.
So? Thats no reason not to be great.
Our time on this Earth is short
My point exactly. So Carpe Diem.
, very short, and we spend way too much time worrying about shyt that doesn't matter.
Yup. Like lay count and "what did this text mean?"
At the end of the day, ALL that truly matters is that you try to GET out of this life what you want in a way that makes YOU happy.
People don't know what will make them happy. Thats the point. Most think its the new car, a raise, a hot wife.. none of this will. Pursuit of excellence or Virtue will.

If that's building a business, then build it. If that's working in Corporate America
And make it the best f*cking business there is.
, then do it. If that's children, then make them. And be the best father who ever lived.If that's women, then date them.
And make such a impact on them that 5 years later they think of you on their wedding night.

But screw trying to be this beacon of light for the world
Light helped create the universe.
......the world will prop you up Monday just to tear your a.ss down on Tuesday. Then climb back on their shoulders Wednesday.

Pessimist. Bold replies.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

A bunch of keyboard jockey shyt. Women are HARD WIRED to be attracted to a man of high social status huh?

Yes, that is correct. That is not

my opinion. That is the opinion of biologists and evolutionary psychologists who study this.

The Red Queen

Evolution of Desire

The Mating Mind

Have you even made one post about a woman you were dating or fvcking or anything in relation to the women in YOUR LIFE T.O.?

I've referenced my experience several times I've had plenty of one night stands and long term relationships. My experience is much different than yours. I don't see the market the way you do. Most girls I've dated longer than a month want a long term relationship with me. Most girls I've dated more than six months have wanted to get married. I, on the other hand, usually get bored with them after a year. No more challenge, no more intrigue, no more reason to be together. That's how the bulk of my long term relationships have ended. They slowly died on the vine, and the girl finally wised up and realized we weren't going to get married, and she left.

However, my experience is irrelevant to yours.

I've tried to help you with every post I've made. I've tried to explain the problems that you are having in a way so you could overcome them and improve the results you are getting. My intention has only been to HELP YOU live a better life.

However, since you seem so determined to get angry at people that are sincerely trying to help you, I've decided you are a lost cause.

This will be my last reply to you.

After I hit the "post reply" button, I am putting you on ignore.

Good luck and I sincerely mean that. I hope you have a nice life.