Did I get put in F.Z b/c 1. She just got out LTR or 2. She doesnt find me attractive ??

Have you ever managed to escape the friend zone

  • Yes after a while and showing some ALPHA

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  • No...I tried but remained trapped in there

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Ryan

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So she says, "I just got out a relationship, I do not want a relationship right now...I want to make it clear we are friends"

So I had a 3rd "date" since the prior post,and I'm getting mixed signals/thoughts.

- I tried to hold her hand in the Friendzone on the third "friend date" , and she giggles and says "we are friends"

Then whenever I send her flirty texts she "lol"s.

I know she is comfortable around me but I dont think romantically attracted.

So like I mentioned before she is 22, very inexperienced and just broke up with her first bf, first relationship last month----> so obviously she is confused trying to sort out her feelings.

IOIs I noticed: she started to copy the manner that I texted, laughs at all my jokes, mirrors my body language..

so the question I would like answered is:

How do I know if she put me in the friendzone b/c
1. she just broke up with her bf of three years

versus 2. She simply doesnt not see me as alpha/ romantically attracted?


The reason I ask is if it is the former, then I will be patient and wait, b/c this girl is worth it (or so my mind thinks at this moment in time).

Thanks to those that reply.
 

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Could be a mild degree of 2, her interest level is not perfect but not gone either. And then that may be causing 3, a sh!t test.

Whenever she says just friends, agree with her and tell her that's all she is to you too. Go out with her and back away a knoch. Heck even talk about your other plates cuz that's what friends do. Don't spend a dime on her. Then end the night and disappear for a week, no contact. Her hamster may implode wondering what happened with u and why you only like her as a friend now, and are ignoring her too . Then reappear and invite her over as a friend. Then make your move. If she don't bite then next and don't look back
 

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invite her to your place as friends, and say...

"and dont think about trying to seduce me.. because WE ARE FRIENDS"
 

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Could be a mild degree of 2, her interest level is not perfect but not gone either. And then that may be causing 3, a sh!t test.

Whenever she says just friends, agree with her and tell her that's all she is to you too. Go out with her and back away a knoch. Heck even talk about your other plates cuz that's what friends do.
So I shouldnt try to kiss her?

What you mean other "plates"?

lol

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So I shouldnt try to kiss her?

What you mean other "plates"?

lol

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Other plates are other chicks you are seeing/b@nging. Even if you don't have any others make her think you do. Since she has already rejected your advances before I'd go see her one whole date and not try to kiss her . Make her think that all she is to you is a friend. Then the time after that try to kiss her again, preferably somewhere like your place where you can go for the fvck too . In short what I am suggesting is fvck with her head a little first, then try to fvck her body
 

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So she says, "I just got out a relationship, I do not want a relationship right now...I want to make it clear we are friends"

So I had a 3rd "date" since the prior post,and I'm getting mixed signals/thoughts.

- I tried to hold her hand in the Friendzone on the third "friend date" , and she giggles and says "we are friends"

Then whenever I send her flirty texts she "lol"s.

I know she is comfortable around me but I dont think romantically attracted.

So like I mentioned before she is 22, very inexperienced and just broke up with her first bf, first relationship last month----> so obviously she is confused trying to sort out her feelings.

IOIs I noticed: she started to copy the manner that I texted, laughs at all my jokes, mirrors my body language..

so the question I would like answered is:

How do I know if she put me in the friendzone b/c
1. she just broke up with her bf of three years

versus 2. She simply doesnt not see me as alpha/ romantically attracted?


The reason I ask is if it is the former, then I will be patient and wait, b/c this girl is worth it (or so my mind thinks at this moment in time).

Thanks to those that reply.
She is not confused. She isn't interested. Women at this age will never tell you the truth because if she says "you stand no chance because you are friendzoned," she knows she will lose an orbiter in you.

You are feeding her ego so she will play the hot cold game. She will dangle hope in front of you long enough for you too keep having feelings for her then when you express them she will put you back i ln your friendzone place. When you back off and do other things that is when she will briefly act interestes to keep you on the string.

Girls who are actually interested in you don't leave you confused. Thid girl isn't interested. If i were in your shoes i would next her.
 

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She is somewhere in between. I hate saying the same old thing of going no contact with her, but in this case do it for a little while, I'd say at least about a month or so and then see if she looks at you differently. If not, you should prolly just give up on her as it would be a lost cause or just not worth striving for. If she does view you in a different light, then hey good for you.
 

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You failed the test.

Her:"We are only friends"

Me: "Listen lady, I have enough friends now we are either working towards something or quit wasting my f*cking time" if she gives you anymore friendzone bs walk away like you dont even know her in person or hangup if on phone.

To this her attraction would have spiked x10 or you would have got rid of a time waster. Either way you win.
This is the way you handle this next time.
 

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She is somewhere in between. I hate saying the same old thing of going no contact with her, but in this case do it for a little while, I'd say at least about a month or so and then see if she looks at you differently. If not, you should prolly just give up on her as it would be a lost cause or just not worth striving for. If she does view you in a different light, then hey good for you.

One month? I've only known her for like three weeks.

What about a few days?
 

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One month? I've only known her for like three weeks.

What about a few days?
Oh I assumed you knew her for a while. I would go more than a few days to be honest, it needs to feel like enough time for change to occur. Maybe a week? It depends on however you want to do it then.
 

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Sorry my friend... but you fvcked up and now you are done. When she said "Were just friends." And you still hung around you became nothing.

You should have told her if she changes her mind to reach out to you because you are NOT interested in being a blue balled friend. Then walked away for good.
 

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What a woman says is irrelevant. If you want something to happen then make something happen. What she does is all that matters.
 

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A week with no texting? whatsapp? dates?
Pretty much. It needs to be long enough for her to feel like you can change within that time frame, or in this case, since you two met not long ago, it needs to be enough time to make her feel like she didn't really know you as well as she thought.
 

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Could be a mild degree of 2, her interest level is not perfect but not gone either. And then that may be causing 3, a sh!t test.

Whenever she says just friends, agree with her and tell her that's all she is to you too. Go out with her and back away a knoch. Heck even talk about your other plates cuz that's what friends do. Don't spend a dime on her. Then end the night and disappear for a week, no contact. Her hamster may implode wondering what happened with u and why you only like her as a friend now, and are ignoring her too . Then reappear and invite her over as a friend. Then make your move. If she don't bite then next and don't look back
Thanks for this advice.

So this is the plan:

  1. I haven't texted her (but viewed her snapchats (and she viewed mine) ) since Thursday night, just texted her now ( i know stupid it was hard to hold the NO contact) asking what was the last song on her snapchat. But is was just two texts and I will stop.
  2. So when should I ask her out to hang again? Last time I saw her was Wednesday. Should I meet up with her this week? (and just like a pure friend with no escalation?) Or no date this week?
  3. Although I am in the friendzone, I am already flexing on other girls (in fact I am more motivated to flex on girls now)
  4. @logicallefty I dont know I can invite her over....b/c she is not comfortable...this girl is so prudish she wont even let me hold her hand.
5. So I think I will stay in the friendzone (but show my manly sexual side letting her know I want to escape F.Z. ) ----> but guess what I will be flexing on other girls (maybe even her friends) at the same time... so my portfolio is diversified.

What you guys think?

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Thanks for this advice.

So this is the plan:

  1. I haven't texted her (but viewed her snapchats (and she viewed mine) ) since Thursday night, just texted her now ( i know stupid it was hard to hold the NO contact) asking what was the last song on her snapchat. But is was just two texts and I will stop.
  2. So when should I ask her out to hang again? Last time I saw her was Wednesday. Should I meet up with her this week? (and just like a pure friend with no escalation?) Or no date this week?
  3. Although I am in the friendzone, I am already flexing on other girls (in fact I am more motivated to flex on girls now)
  4. @logicallefty I dont know I can invite her over....b/c she is not comfortable...this girl is so prudish she wont even let me hold her hand.
5. So I think I will stay in the friendzone (but show my manly sexual side letting her know I want to escape F.Z. ) ----> but guess what I will be flexing on other girls (maybe even her friends) at the same time... so my portfolio is diversified.

What you guys think?

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I dunno, maybe she's only being a prude with you. A lot of girls say "Im not that type of girl..." well just not with that one guy, but with other guys, they sure as hell are. Honestly, I would treat her like any normal friend at this point. Then again I don't exactly get oneitis for girls either so maybe thats not the best case with you. I just wouldn't actively focus on her when put up against other women because if she doesn't even want to hold hands, well that's not even prude. That's just romantic disinterest right there in my opinion.
 

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Thanks for this advice.


  1. So when should I ask her out to hang again? Last time I saw her was Wednesday. Should I meet up with her this week? (and just like a pure friend with no escalation?) Or no date this week?
  2. Although I am in the friendzone, I am already flexing on other girls (in fact I am more motivated to flex on girls now)
You ask her out again when she reaches out to you. All you need to do is try to forget about her. Go date other women, if she contacts you assume she wants you to try and make a date, and just do that. If she says anything other than 'yes' or a real counter-offer, assume it's no.... thank her for contacting you, and tell her to be in touch, and go about dating other women.

You need to move on. She might not want you, but at least she will respect you. And it's the only way to know for sure if you have a shot. If you walk away and she reaches out to you then you will know you MIGHT have a shot. But do not expect it.
 

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Thanks for this advice.

So this is the plan:

  1. I haven't texted her (but viewed her snapchats (and she viewed mine) ) since Thursday night, just texted her now ( i know stupid it was hard to hold the NO contact) asking what was the last song on her snapchat. But is was just two texts and I will stop.
  2. So when should I ask her out to hang again? Last time I saw her was Wednesday. Should I meet up with her this week? (and just like a pure friend with no escalation?) Or no date this week?
  3. Although I am in the friendzone, I am already flexing on other girls (in fact I am more motivated to flex on girls now)
  4. @logicallefty I dont know I can invite her over....b/c she is not comfortable...this girl is so prudish she wont even let me hold her hand.
5. So I think I will stay in the friendzone (but show my manly sexual side letting her know I want to escape F.Z. ) ----> but guess what I will be flexing on other girls (maybe even her friends) at the same time... so my portfolio is diversified.

What you guys think?

@MrWood @ImTheDoubleGreatest! @dude99 @RangerMIke @marmel75
I would say give it a month of no contact at all then ask her out. You have to become not available snd too busy for them in order for them to miss you. If you are texting or calling or bugging every 2 or 3 days then you will stay in that friend zone.

If she actually misses you then you stand a chance. If after month and she doesn't even miss you then you know you were not even a friend to her but only something to prop her ego up. Don't waste your time then. Next her
 
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