The High Quality Women Are Lower Than You Think

[Desdinova]

When men are choosing a "high quality" woman to marry, they have every other woman in their vicinity to compare her to. Given that most of us know that today's women are bottom-of-the-barrel trash, what does that make the "high quality" women? In comparison to the bottom of the barrel, anything above the bottom will appear to be "high quality".

So what is "high quality"? A woman who has a career? Has a car? No kids? Doesn't dress like a wh0re? Hasn't slept with a lot of men? I've met lots of women who fit this description, but they are still worthless pieces of 5hit.

The thing is, the "high quality" women of today are yesterday's "low quality" women. The high standards have been dropped because there aren't any women meeting them. Men are settling for women who are higher quality than everything else in comparison, which is still extremely low.

 

[yuppee]

high quality? Petite, lovely, fit, shares my interests and beliefs. Ambitious, smart, hard working, likes and appreciates ME.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I agree 100% Des. I've actually reflected upon this quite often. You've articulated it very well.

 

[Dingo]

"You learn more about someone at the end of a relationship than at the beginning..."

I'm going through this right now....

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

Would you be surprised to know that some of these low "quality" women would be high "quality" if you were a higher value male to be competed for? I must be the luckiest guy in the world having met all
these "quality" women, or maybe I invoke that "quality" impetus ... Assuming of course, "quality" is not concrete but of abstract origin founded in how a woman will ultimately treat you.

Inversely, once you start treating a 2 like a queen, I'll be more receptive to your argument.

 

[Desdinova]

Would you be surprised to know that some of these low "quality" women would be high "quality" if you were a higher value male to be competed for?

Show me a woman who doesn't want a high value male.

 

[yuppee]

I"ve had several women who had other men be ready to go live with me. But you have to be a top quality guy. Not necessarily the big bux, but desirable.

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Would you be surprised to know that some of these low "quality" women would be high "quality" if you were a higher value male to be competed for? I must be the luckiest guy in the world having met all
these "quality" women, or maybe I invoke that "quality" impetus ... Assuming of course, "quality" is not concrete but of abstract origin founded in how a woman will ultimately treat you.

Inversely, once you start treating a 2 like a queen, I'll be more receptive to your argument.

Exactly!

Women KNOOOOW what they have to do in order to gain the reputation that they "treat their man good". They know it! But if you aren't a guy they don't want to do it for, yes they are going to look low quality.

If you are a high value male to her...and especially if you d1ck her down good in the bed room, her middle name will be high quality.

 

[yuppee]

quite a few women don't care much about the ****ing, they'd much rather have the licking and a large number dont really care much about either one. I had one who just wanted her nips sucked while she used her vibrator. Whatever floats their boat.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

When men are choosing a "high quality" woman to marry, they have every other woman in their vicinity to compare her to. Given that most of us know that today's women are bottom-of-the-barrel trash, what does that make the "high quality" women? In comparison to the bottom of the barrel, anything above the bottom will appear to be "high quality".

So what is "high quality"? A woman who has a career? Has a car? No kids? Doesn't dress like a wh0re? Hasn't slept with a lot of men? I've met lots of women who fit this description, but they are still worthless pieces of 5hit.

The thing is, the "high quality" women of today are yesterday's "low quality" women. The high standards have been dropped because there aren't any women meeting them. Men are settling for women who are higher quality than everything else in comparison, which is still extremely low.

Not necessarily disagreeing with what you're saying, but analagous to a previous post I made about a week or so ago where I said that one of the major problems in this nation is lack of male leadership, I think we can point at the root problem being a lot of thirsty guys. These thirsty guys will settle for trash, thus we as a society get a lot of trashy women.

Men in general need to sack up and start setting women straight but good luck telling a lot of horny 20 year olds that.

 

[yuppee]

Men need to look overseas for a woman. But then they would have to INVEST in her and all the worthless punks can't be bothered to do that. It costs about 15k to go there, meet one there, live with her a few months, then get her to US. So of course you only look at Engineers, Dr's. dentists and the like. Somebody who will be able to and happy to give you 50k per year for the 5 years it takes them to become a citizen.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Not necessarily disagreeing with what you're saying, but analagous to a previous post I made about a week or so ago where I said that one of the major problems in this nation is lack of male leadership, I think we can point at the root problem being a lot of thirsty guys. These thirsty guys will settle for trash, thus we as a society get a lot of trashy women.

Men in general need to sack up and start setting women straight but good luck telling a lot of horny 20 year olds that.

Well said indeed. Nothing is going to change until men grow a pair and call women out on their sh!t. This entire mess exists today because men caved in to a handful of loud-mouth feminists. Men of the 1940s on back would be positively shocked at how spineless men have become today.

Men need to reclaim their authority. It's done by simply assuming authority with zero doubt. That's how I go through my personal life. Where and when I desire authority, I simply assume it. Women always take their cues from external sources. But look at the average man. He goes through his days constantly glancing at women in his vicinity, trying to see if they approve of his words or actions or not.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Men of the 1940s on back would be positively shocked at how spineless men have become today.

This sentence stirred up some memories in me, I felt it might be appropriate to share. Part of who I am I think a sort of alpha role is natural for me, other parts not so much thus why I have learned things since I've been here on SS. But the part that came natural, where did that come from? My parents still have a pretty decent marriage and I think they did well in raising me. I think it was my grandfather on my dad's side that had a pretty heavy hand in how to handle this stuff.

My grandfather was 'courting' my grandmother by the late 1930s. I recall my dad telling me how one time when he was a kid and they were at the dinner table, grandpa got p!ssed about something and overturned the table, dinner and everything on it. There was no context given, dad was just a boy at this point, but I'd be willing to bet grandma was throwing some serious sh!t tests down.

Fast foward to a couple weeks after my grandma died. My brother found a diary she kept for a short while when she was a teenager/early 20s. In this diary, she copied some parts of a letter that she wrote to my grandpa which essentially amounted to an ultimatum of how he needed to treat her or otherwise she was leaving. So, princess syndrome was still alive and well back then too (perhaps not to the degree it is today), but I have no idea what happened next. Obviously my grandpa was a natural at batting down sh!t tests from women. She obviously stayed with him and married him.

Thinking about this now as I'm typing it all out, just some memories I have of holiday dinners at their house when I was a kid, I can occasionally recall my grandpa raising his voice just a little. Nothing harsh mind you, it would just be like he was speaking louder to make sure he was heard when he called out her name, then he'd tell her whatever it was he was saying or wanting something done. A couple of times I remember her retorting some smart comment back like 'kiss off', but she did what she was told every time.

I think most women back during that generation knew their place and respected the role they play in a marriage and in the household, but most men also knew how to keep their women in line. We here at SS can always immediately pin down problems with so many women today as being a lack of respect, but we aren't doing enough analysis inward, looking at ourselves to see what's wrong and there are a sh!tload of guys today who can't lead, can't command respect, let themselves fall victim to the crap from mainstream media today (just look at guys who get worked up over Facebook for good examples), and then wonder why so much sh!t is going wrong in their life.

 

[MrWood]

15k to go to Europe

Men need to look overseas for a woman. But then they would have to INVEST in her and all the worthless punks can't be bothered to do that. It costs about 15k to go there, meet one there, live with her a few months, then get her to US. So of course you only look at Engineers, Dr's. dentists and the like. Somebody who will be able to and happy to give you 50k per year for the 5 years it takes them to become a citizen.

$15K ??? lol ok...

It cost $1000-1500 for a R/T ticket to most places in Europe from USA.
I immigrated from USA to live in Finland, very expensive, you could get a vacation rental for another $1000 a month.
A Russian you say? (I date mostly Russians, and fly them here $150 r/t )

Or..., the rubble is very depressed right now so you could get a hotel in Moscow for about the same rate, or live with your girl for free...
Visa to USA for her is under $200
Her flight to USA will be another $1000-1500

I bet you dont even have a passport...

 

[yuppee]

what do you live on over there while you look for her and live with her, fumes? that costs at least 2k per month, I can assure you of that. You'll also have to provide for her during the year while you await her visa,a and send her a plane ticket when she gets it. Her embassy interview will cost several hundred dollars, as will her medical exams. your and her plane tickets will cost 1k each, minimum. Her green card here will cost 1k, too, and the wedding aint free, either. If you aint put her into some sort of exclusive program while she waits, why would she marry YOU when she gets here? you can go marry her over there, but it slows down the immigration visa (a lot) and you'll have to live over there longer (both of which run up your costs)

 

[MrWood]

you are right,

I should have just said that it is simply cheaper for YOU to immigrate AWAY from the sh1th0le that has become 'murika

then your scenario plays out at 1/3 or less, better social benefits and higher wages...
Oh yea, there is FREE EDUCATION here too, so yea, that saves $100k for each of your children

didnt mention that passport?

 

[Atom Smasher]

Exactly!

Women KNOOOOW what they have to do in order to gain the reputation that they "treat their man good". They know it! But if you aren't a guy they don't want to do it for, yes they are going to look low quality.

If you are a high value male to her...and especially if you d1ck her down good in the bed room, her middle name will be high quality.

@kenpiffyjr - You need to put your age in your profile for Mature Man. 25 or older.

 

[Colossus]

I agree Des that quality is in the eye of the beholder (always has been), we just have a relativity problem today for the reasons mentioned above.

For this reason I think every man needs to have defined, written criteria for quality. I did towards the end of my dating days. There are objective measures, like past partner count, age, children, etc; and subjective measures, which are really only relevant to the individual. A good place to start: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/10-things-to-look-for-in-a-wife.207428/

I'm also amazed at how thirsty dudes are, but I think it's easy for me to forget I was once a thirsty dude myself.

I got "un-thirsty" through experience, and I believe for the most part we are arbiters of our own domain. You TEACH others how to treat you, and after a while if you consistently have poor quality women in your life the common denominator is YOU.

 

[Alvafe]

I agree Des that quality is in the eye of the beholder (always has been), we just have a relativity problem today for the reasons mentioned above.

For this reason I think every man needs to have defined, written criteria for quality. I did towards the end of my dating days. There are objective measures, like past partner count, age, children, etc; and subjective measures, which are really only relevant to the individual. A good place to start: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/10-things-to-look-for-in-a-wife.207428/

I'm also amazed at how thirsty dudes are, but I think it's easy for me to forget I was once a thirsty dude myself.

I got "un-thirsty" through experience, and I believe for the most part we are arbiters of our own domain. You TEACH others how to treat you, and after a while if you consistently have poor quality women in your life the common denominator is YOU.

its not thirsty, its seeking validation from females, a thirsty can be sedated after a time, the validation they seek is never over, they will want more and more, they need to feel, that is the problem, a guy wanting to feel, not going and geting things done, even worse, like most people out there, they make you think you need a female aproval, to be worthy of soemthing

 

[Yewki]

once you start treating a 2 like a queen, I'll be more receptive to your argument.

This is a good point, but the fundamental problem is girls expect a guy who is higher value than them. This is especially true in their 20s.

A girl who is a 7, wants a guy who is an 8 or 9. So what's the result? If the girl gets what she wants, the guy will probably be unsatisfied with her looks. If the guy gets what he wants, the girl will know she can still get a better guy.

It's an imbalance of expectations. This is what happens when guys pedestalize women and the whole dating dynamic is out of balance.