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Be with a woman that.....you don't care about

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Have you ever noticed....when a man is with a woman and he has low interest
level......he does everything right....

....and then he meets another woman with whom the interest level is sky high and
he just seems to fvck things up.....

he seems to adopt the same mentality that Jim Morrison described himself as possessing
"I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive soul. But with the soul of a clown who just seems
to blow it at the last minute"

So logically you would say that should a man wish to remain successful in his pursuits with women he should really position himself with women that he has low interest in...
.....right?

I mean that makes logical sense, doesn't it? Surely if we lower our standards.....meaning that if
we only go for those girls with whom we hold the fvcking ace of spades......that is to say...her interest
is higher...we would thus do everything right? remaining a natural challenge?

so logically, let's lower our standards????

no. fvck that.

Lower those b¡aches off those fvcking pedestals. See the cvnt for what she is and rise yourself above her......

I'll say it in a gentler way......at the end of the day when she's pulling her jeans back on after a night of getting drilled by your c0ck all that remains is just another girl who's just trying to get by in the world......
.....nothing special.....

....when your interest level is low.....you do everything right....
 

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Never get too attached.
 

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I see the major flaw here is pushing others down to elevate oneself, that sh!t will come back and hit you like a ton of bricks one day. To take her off the pedestal to put her below you, meaning you're so weak you have to drag others down to appear strong.

The strong ones doesn't take people off their pedestals, they are on an even higher or equal pedestal. I don't have to drag women down, I just have to be better than them. As real men we shouldn't have a problem doing that right? Sadly I see many who aren't real men and have to drag others down to their own retarded level to have "strength". I see that as weak, I will win over any guy doing that.
 

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The strong ones doesn't take people off their pedestals, they are on an even higher or equal pedestal. I don't have to drag women down, I just have to be better than them. As real men we shouldn't have a problem doing that right? Sadly I see many who aren't real men and have to drag others down to their own retarded level to have "strength". I see that as weak, I will win over any guy doing that.[/QUOTE]

I normally like what you have to say, but you seem a bit disjointed tonight

are you drinking?

Post meant to help newbies
 

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Opposite for me. I always do better with the girls I've caught feels for--if she's she's super attractive my lizard brain takes over and I can do no wrong. But I blow out consistently with girls I'm only moderately attracted to.

Go figure.
 

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I normally like what you have to say, but you seem a bit disjointed tonight

are you drinking?

Post meant to help newbies
What I'm saying is that we're better off by focusing on putting ourselves on an equally high or higher pedestal, than to knock women down from theirs.

Teach the newbies how to be better than women, not how to make women worse than themselves.

Is further explanation needed?
 

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@Grewd.... I understand what you are saying but the dynamics are a bit more complex than that.
Let me explain, the average American woman is incomparably selfish. Raised in a cluture of fantasy and entitlement where they are constantly fed ego validation in excess. They have little understanding about compromise that is required in a relationship. Most are out looking for the mytical perfect guy, and would leave an average guy for a chance at this myth. There are exceptions to this rule, but the rule still stands.
This is why it is so hard to date these women. Because you literally have to do everything right, to have a precise game. If you bore them for even a second, if you show too much feeling, ect then boom you are done.
Taking that into consideration... Is it lowering them in standard, or is it just making things more realistic?
 
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What I'm saying is that we're better off by focusing on putting ourselves on an equally high or higher pedestal, than to knock women down from theirs.

Teach the newbies how to be better than women, not how to make women worse than themselves.

Is further explanation needed?
You're projecting. He's saying basic knowledge. Don't pedestalize women. They're humans just like you. They eat, drink and sh!t.
 

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I get that feeling too.... it seems all the girls who give me ''butterflies'' or I am physical attracted too that I pursue let say.... well it never works out.

The girl where I have no thought for or desire.... it works....

Sometimes I have the feeling it will work but the girl aint my ''standards'' I back down

Since got single, I had alot of dates all had a positive closing but never desired to go further with them.... the only 2 girls I saw ''dating for a while'' rejected me lol (oneitis and another)......

The concept of ''playing like you don't care''.... always had a better effect than when you chase.

Better attract than chase.....
 

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You're only screwing everything up with women you like because you care to notice. I am messing things up all the time but don't notice because I don't care, and if I were to ever meet a woman that I was super into, I would notice myself ****ing everything up and would feel a bit bad about it. It seems to me that when people are coming into the dating game and get the afk syndrome, a woman can get turned off and won't like that. Then the dude acting afk has their feelings hurt for a bit, but a person can become desensitized to dating a bit. So you learn to move from one person to the next until you find someone that you actually want to be with. The only problem is (this is my problem) that I have unrealistic expectations of women, but the expectations must be met before I settle down because there is no way I am going to wake up every morning wishing that I was laying next to someone else.
 
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I agree with not getting attached. I've been busy all weekend with work and friends. I'm not overly invested in any one girl. I got booty calls from 2 girls Saturday night and told them both "maybe" leaving it open ended and probably psyching them out. Both girls were like "wtf quit being a ***** and come over". Let's me know I'm pushing the right buttons. I didn't text back after the maybe and they blew up my phone. Giving no reason why I blew them off till 24 hours later cause I felt like it In all honesty, I wasn't gonna ditch friends for a chick and I was tired from 13 hours of work so..... Do what you want and don't compromise.

**now that I turned them down for sex once, they blew up my phone even more now than before. They can't figure me out and that's good.
 

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I have also found that fapping -before-decreases your chances of fvcking up with women. Srs.
 

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The best way to remove the pedestal is to have options. When you do then no woman is on the pedestal because she isn't special to you.
 

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What I'm saying is that we're better off by focusing on putting ourselves on an equally high or higher pedestal, than to knock women down from theirs.
Yeah but no one deserves to be pedestalized for their looks or gender. A woman should not be pedestalized for such things. There's nothing wrong with knocking women down from that pedestal.
 

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The problem is, sometimes you dont even put them on pedestal at the first place. Yet they gave you all the attention you could get, seek for your approval and blabla. Then you start to wonder, to fantasize, imagine things with her. Eventually got attached, and then she left.. Seriously? We the men, sometimes just being ourselves although we know that we really like these certain women.. But the damn women sometimes just cant make up her mind. They really are just wanna have some fun..
 

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Mentally is way off here bro.

Instead of lowering your standards because you are afraid you will mess up with a girl you really like and want to have sex with,

why don't you increase your value and earning potential so the girl you are attracted to is desperate to have sex with you? The decision and power should be in your hands, not hers.
 

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I understand the theory but it defeats the purpose of being with a women. Why would any guy be with a woman he has no interest in?

The issue is sticking to your ideals ethics and boundaries and enhancing your life so that a relationship with a woman is like a bonus. You don't need a bonus but it's nice to receive.


There are enough men who are in relationships with women they don't care about.

Caring about a woman isn't beta. Neglecting your passion, drive, goals for a woman is beta.
 

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The theory is sound but is that what you want? The woman in my life shouldn't be a random "cvnt" as you put it.

Whenever I'm not interested I will drop her pretty soon. Basically - when I take some time off and don't miss her at all then I know I must end it.

Often I'm having second thoughts - I could have a relationship that you describe. But I'd never stand the thought of starting a serious relationship which is so unequal. Maybe this is why I've never had any.
 

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Yeah but no one deserves to be pedestalized for their looks or gender. A woman should not be pedestalized for such things. There's nothing wrong with knocking women down from that pedestal.
There's one problem with knocking women down from their pedestals, it gives them the right to knock you down from yours. You can't say they can't, remember that you say no one deserves being pedestalized.

I put my girlfriend on a pedestal, she puts me on a pedestal. People can take each other higher if they stop knocking each other down. I agree to equality, but not if it means negatively affecting others.

That's my point.
 
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