Shutting off

[AttackFormation]

So I posted this in another thread but didn't want to hijack it on second thought.

I've always wondered how Mystery and other similar PUAs were able to function, considering how they broke everything down into almost a mathematical formula (if she does this, I do that, we are at this stage in attraction, therefore I need to do this, now I will tell this lying story to DHV, etc.). I've never been able to be so coldly analytical while socializing - it puts me "in my head" as they say, while socializing is an activity that requires me to be "out of my head" (or in other words, focus outside myself).

I've been meaning to make a post on this lately... maybe you or someone else can help.

The amount of game and red pill knowledge I've absorbed does good, but it hasn't solved a problem I and I'm sure many guys had even before that: not being able to relax mentally in social situations. And I'm not talking about anxiety, I've gotten over that kind of stuff. What I mean is whenever I socialise or write with them it feels like I'm playing a fast-track strategy game in my brain that I'm aware of, and the other person is just an AI. The thing with this is that even if you do it flawlessly, you don't feel anything. It's not enjoyable and you don't really feel alive.

I don't feel like I'm experiencing any emotion. I don't feel fun, joy, spontaneity, whatever. All I'm thinking and feeling is how well the process of game is going and I'm tired to death of it. I want to switch whatever is hyperactive in my brain off and just be and feel, which I'm sure will carry over to the rest of life too.

 

[Yewki]

Maybe you're too caught up in trying to reach a specific end goal to actually enjoy yourself. As in always trying to play it right so the girl likes you or wants to sleep with you. Perhaps you need and take a step back, stop trying to "win" the game, and just do you. Maybe that means cutting contact with girls, or switching it up talk to them for a different purpose... play a different game.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Meditation?

 

[Glumix]

I am afraid you will have to retrain your brain. Being and feeling is about living the present moment. You can do that by being attentive to your thinking mind and just shut it when needed.

Read The Power of Now, great book.
Try meditation as well.

Reading your posts on SS I am not really surprised you start to feel like that. You have to free yourself of all the hate, cynism and bitterness. It's killing you.

 

[AttackFormation]

Maybe you're too caught up in trying to reach a specific end goal to actually enjoy yourself. As in always trying to play it right so the girl likes you or wants to sleep with you. Perhaps you need and take a step back, stop trying to "win" the game, and just do you. Maybe that means cutting contact with girls, or switching it up talk to them for a different purpose... play a different game.

Switching it up to talk to them for a different purpose... don't know what that would be. The only thing I can see is to switch completely to gaming only girls I think are fun and I like. But that's like saying you'll only look for jobs that are fun and you like. Ah well.

Read The Power of Now, great book.
Try meditation as well.

Reading your posts on SS I am not really surprised you start to feel like that. You have to free yourself of all the hate, cynism and bitterness. It's killing you.

The Power of Now huh, I'll look into it. Been meaning to get started with meditation too, see if it can help.

Really huh, how do you tell?

 

[Serenity]

I go into social interactions without thinking of what to say, it's truly impossible to know what to say beforehand. Everything depends on what the other person says, I make up my responses on the spot.

This is in truth how RTS games are optimally played as well, what you do depends on what the opponent does. What other people say and do is for the most part unpredictable, at best it can be estimated for people you know the behavioral patterns of. You can never fully predict what the other person will say in response, this makes your way of thinking futile. To play the perfect game you must be able to predict with certainty what the other person will do, in order to plan far ahead. This is completely impossible.

What is possible however is to make sh!t up on the spot and risk fvcking up a few times.

 

[AttackFormation]

I go into social interactions without thinking of what to say, it's truly impossible to know what to say beforehand. Everything depends on what the other person says, I make up my responses on the spot.

This is in truth how RTS games are optimally played as well, what you do depends on what the opponent does. What other people say and do is for the most part unpredictable, at best it can be estimated for people you know the behavioral patterns of. You can never fully predict what the other person will say in response, this makes your way of thinking futile. To play the perfect game you must be able to predict with certainty what the other person will do, in order to plan far ahead. This is completely impossible.

What is possible however is to make sh!t up on the spot and risk fvcking up a few times.

That's what I do. I'm not stressed because of thinking of what to say. In person I'm gregarious, positive and warm, that's who I've developed myself to be. But I don't experience that in my brain because it's hyper-aware of the "game" being played so I very rarely feel anything in the moment. Almost always there will be some thought coming into my mind analyzing what's going on externally and what will happen next, so almost no experience really feels genuine. It just feels like an artificial process that I'm navigating rather than an experience/something I feel, like being a salesman and selling to someone does when you're not a "natural" salesman (ie. you don't naturally enjoy being one). I need to formulate it so you understand what I mean...

 

[Yewki]

Switching it up to talk to them for a different purpose... don't know what that would be. The only thing I can see is to switch completely to gaming only girls I think are fun and I like. But that's like saying you'll only look for jobs that are fun and you like. Ah well.

What I mean is your objective doesn't have to be to come across as some DJ. Have discussions about things that you want to talk about. Say what's on your mind. Drop the PUA stuff do what interests you. Maybe that means not talking to girls for a while.

 

[TheProspect]

I second Glumix's recommendation.

Read "The Power of Now" and "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle.

If you're patient and open-minded those books will give you a new perspective on life. Although I have not read a page of those two books in a couple years, the " lessons" (if you want to call them that) still resonate and make an impact in my life today.

 

[Serenity]

@AttackFormation It's normal to pay attention to what's happening around you and predict where it's going, except where it's going is not certain until it went there. Anyways I understand more clearly what your problem is about, better formulation works on me.

You feel like what you're doing isn't really you. You're doing game, but that's not really how you are. Like someone acting like a salesman solely for the purpose of selling something, but that's really not how they are. I've had a few wrestles with this issue myself, it's a type of identity conflict. Acting in ways that you don't feel good acting for any reason really, just put the reason aside it's just bullsh!t we tell ourselves anyways.

Game isn't fun if you feel trapped to act this or that or any particular way. Game as taught by PUA's are derived from their external observations of people who were successful and they noticed particular behaviors they connected to that success. The people who actually did the successful things probably didn't think at all about how they acted, it's just how they are and what they do. So in essence game is trying to act like someone else which is in my opinion the biggest mistake in game, you'll never feel real and natural doing it. You won't do any better trying not to do it either, sometimes you'll just naturally act in ways associated with game.

The naturals don't follow the game, there's no prediction for them, they make the game. PUA's get their stuff from guys like me who make it rather than copy someone else's actions. I don't even think about it in terms of game when I interact, crazy sh!t just pops up in my mind and I unleash it spicing everything up. You can't be spontaneous, fun and exciting if you just follow and stick to "the game".

tl;dr Fvck the game, go beyond it.

 

[Glumix]

Really huh, how do you tell?

You give some strong advices on SS and I really liked some of your threads because they were quality.

Perhaps I am completely wrong here and my interpretation is incorrect, but just read the titles of the last threads you opened:

• My faith in ever making a family is being worn down
• Plate bankruptcy
• I have been ruined by sex with some girls
• The social climate
• Girl won't stop pulling me back into orbit
• ...

I am not even going to quote the content of those. It's all negativity. I know there are a lot of men posting those kind of threads here but I am talking to you right now.

You build yourself on negativity. It's like you are constantly fighting against what you think is the reality of the world and society you compare to some idealization of them you've built.

It's exhausting.

Your mind is not invincible. And at the end of the day the state of your mind is going to be reflected on your body. You're going to get sick or to suffer injuries.

I know there are some hard truths out there but some times we have to give ourselves a break. When is it the last time you laughed at yourself or with yourself, all alone, just thinking about something? Personaly, I do that everyday.

Reading too much Red Pill and SS is not doing any good if you lose your personality in the process.

Quit women for 6 months or 1 year. You hate women but you are constantly chasing them. It's like you need them to live your life or that they give yourself a sense of your personality. Drop all your plates and just enjoy life. There are so many great things to discover out there, including your own self. Just breath the fresh air and let things go and come to you freely.

 

[Serenity]

Listen to @Glumix there's a seriously good point there.

 

[Reykhel]

@Glumix

Indeed. Sometimes we need to go away.....in order to come back.

Find ritual space as Robert Bly would say...

Mindfullness reminds us to stop and smell the coffee, to breath in the juniper,
to taste and chew every mouthful of food, to feel the grass beneath our feet, to be
present and experience ourselves and people, which we can only really do when we break
down the wall of egotistical judgements and prejudices....

When life becomes art.........everything becomes an art form...

Mindfullness
http://www.amazon.com/How-Train-Wild-Elephant-Mindfulness/dp/1590308174/ref=sr_1_1?
ie=UTF8&qid=1458166385&sr=8-1&keywords=how+to+train+the+wild+elephant

After mindfulness, women and wine will be seen through new eyes.......
http://www.amazon.com/Alabaster-Gir...qid=1458167983&sr=8-1&keywords=alabaster+girl

 

[zinc4]

Stop thinking too much....try meditsyion and rigorous physical conditioning.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Stop reading about pick up if it isn't too late...just remember the have fun part. You need a frigging holiday from game.
Find something/anything else you can be passionate about. Focus on that for a while. Learn a new skill, whether it is music, copper etching or Esperanto.
Good luck. I appreciate that any amount of game can make seduction a bit too easy. Fund a new challenge.