POF Experiment

[custardpie]

When you use online dating, use the one strike rule. Flakes? Backs down when you go for the number or meetup? Just wants attention? Delete her ass. Don't be an orbiter. She won't miss you.

Over the years of using OLD I've found this to be golden advice. It will save you much time and frustration if you will adopt this mindset.

Girls that are into you will make it very easy for you every step of the way. If she doesn't dig your pics or profile enough then there's very little you can do to bring her round for a meet up. And even if you could then it's quite likely she'll end up flaking or just not putting out on the date, so what's the point?
OLD is FULL of attention *****s looking for their next ego fix. Don't be their enabler.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Keep it simple, guy.

Ask her out on a date within the first 3 messages, then tell her to text you. If she doesn't commit or doesn't text you, delete the convo and move on.

When you get her number, don't text her. Call her and set a definite date. Again, if she doesn't commit, retract the offer. If she accepts, cease contact until you leave the house for your date. 99% of the time, if she is still interested she will shoot you an "are we still on?!" text before your date.

 

[Reyaj]

Over the years of using OLD I've found this to be golden advice. It will save you much time and frustration if you will adopt this mindset.

Girls that are into you will make it very easy for you every step of the way. If she doesn't dig your pics or profile enough then there's very little you can do to bring her round for a meet up. And even if you could then it's quite likely she'll end up flaking or just not putting out on the date, so what's the point?
OLD is FULL of attention *****s looking for their next ego fix. Don't be their enabler.

I agree with this as a rule of thumb in general. The only thing is when it comes to line dating I believe most of these girls are getting flooded with messages. Even while most of the messages are probably from people they aren't attracted to, there is still probably a good amount of people they do find attractive. Thus you need to do something to stand out.

Keep it simple, guy.

Ask her out on a date within the first 3 messages, then tell her to text you. If she doesn't commit or doesn't text you, delete the convo and move on.

When you get her number, don't text her. Call her and set a definite date. Again, if she doesn't commit, retract the offer. If she accepts, cease contact until you leave the house for your date. 99% of the time, if she is still interested she will shoot you an "are we still on?!" text before your date.

I've sorta tried this in the past and often I receive the "I don't give my number out that easy" or "why can't we talk through here"

The most success I've had was when I was able to get her on the telephone. I haven't really met too many girls through just messaging on POF alone.... I'd be curious to here stories of this.

Anyway to sum up the last remaining HB8... She kept asking me for more pictures and I basically told her she seemed hung up on her ex which she admitted. I actually LJBFd her which she agreed to. We've been sporadically been trading texts although today she kind of went ghost. Either way if I have any free time I'll try to get her out as a friend and hook up with her. This actually worked for me before in another past scenario although I used some status techniques to validate me. I may try the same thing here.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I've sorta tried this in the past and often I receive the "I don't give my number out that easy" or "why can't we talk through here"

The most success I've had was when I was able to get her on the telephone. I haven't really met too many girls through just messaging on POF alone.... I'd be curious to here stories of this

Then she's given you your answer. Not saying that you're wrong... but my experiences are the chicks that give you resistance about wanting to meet in person aren't going to meet you anyway. There is nothing you can say or do to get her in person. She is online for beta-orbiters. Accept it and move on to the next.

Online dating is ruthlessly efficient. Put your feeler out to every girl you could stick your wang in, then move the interactions forward with those who respond. Resistance means she isn't worth your time. Even when you get lucky and get her on the phone, she usually ends up being a waste of time (flakey, etc).

 

[glass half full]

An important question about an earlier part of this thread...concerning paying so much for dates and no return.
Is it acceptable to go Dutch on a date?
After all, you both are just meeting to get to know each other better. Not like you're dating or married...
I'd seriously like an answer here, as it makes total sense to me. But I'll be hitting the game in a few months and I want to know what to expect, but I think it should be kept in perspective.

 

[EyeBRollin]

An important question about an earlier part of this thread...concerning paying so much for dates and no return.
Is it acceptable to go Dutch on a date?
After all, you both are just meeting to get to know each other better. Not like you're dating or married...
I'd seriously like an answer here, as it makes total sense to me. But I'll be hitting the game in a few months and I want to know what to expect, but I think it should be kept in perspective.

No, don't go dutch. You come across as cheap when you do that. Just specify "drinks only" when you meet for the first date. That shouldn't run you more than $40. If that is too much for your wallet, you should work in raising your income before exploring the game.

If things go well, you shouldn't have to go out more than twice - once to get drinks, and one dinner + activity date. After that she will usually be open to going dutch, taking YOU out, or coming over your place to make dinner (which she should be doing by that point).

Going dutch can only hurt you when you first meet a woman. It's not the classy way to start off an interaction.

 

[Tenacity]

An important question about an earlier part of this thread...concerning paying so much for dates and no return.
Is it acceptable to go Dutch on a date?
After all, you both are just meeting to get to know each other better. Not like you're dating or married...
I'd seriously like an answer here, as it makes total sense to me. But I'll be hitting the game in a few months and I want to know what to expect, but I think it should be kept in perspective.

No, don't go dutch. You come across as cheap when you do that. Just specify "drinks only" when you meet for the first date. That shouldn't run you more than $40. If that is too much for your wallet, you should work in raising your income before exploring the game.

The reality is that A LOT of women have no intentions of doing anything with a guy, but will use up his free date, free meal and free drinks.

Spend more time on the telephone with a woman to determine if there's a high chance that she's going to fvck you. If she is going to fvck you, you usually can get her to come over to your place or you come to her place. After you fvck her, then look at doing dates.

I disagree with the notion of, "Well, it's only $40 and if you can't spend that you shouldn't be in the field," that makes no damn sense. Spend money on women who are going to provide sex and companionship benefits, women that aren't going to provide any of said benefits should not have 10 cents wasted on them.

Hell, $40 is either a full tank of gas or a tank and a half of gas. You work hard for every nickel that you make, so if you are going to spend money on a chick make sure there's value being provided in the form of sex and companionship.

After all, sex and companionship are pretty much the ONLY remaining value that women have left.

 

[l_e_g_e_n_d]

An important question about an earlier part of this thread...concerning paying so much for dates and no return.
Is it acceptable to go Dutch on a date?
After all, you both are just meeting to get to know each other better. Not like you're dating or married...
I'd seriously like an answer here, as it makes total sense to me. But I'll be hitting the game in a few months and I want to know what to expect, but I think it should be kept in perspective.

Do you go Dutch because of principle (others') or poverty?

I pay, always .. because I want to.

I lead (in however I elect to); she defers. Any attempted break in the preceding sentence, she's out.

 

[glass half full]

...because of principle. You don't know each other, therefore I think of a date as two people in the same boat, therefore they should share the initial date cost. I'm not being cheap, but knowing fem mentality these days I can certainly see that response.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The reality is that A LOT of women have no intentions of doing anything with a guy, but will use up his free date, free meal and free drinks.

So what? It's one date. That's a sunk cost. It's part of the game. Write it off.

Spend more time on the telephone with a woman to determine if there's a high chance that she's going to fvck you. If she is going to fvck you, you usually can get her to come over to your place or you come to her place. After you fvck her, then look at doing dates.

The time I spend on the telephone I can be spending in person actually trying to **** her.

I disagree with the notion of, "Well, it's only $40 and if you can't spend that you shouldn't be in the field," that makes no damn sense. Spend money on women who are going to provide sex and companionship benefits, women that aren't going to provide any of said benefits should not have 10 cents wasted on them.

Hell, $40 is either a full tank of gas or a tank and a half of gas. You work hard for every nickel that you make, so if you are going to spend money on a chick make sure there's value being provided in the form of sex and companionship.

It's an unrealistic proposition to expect women to provide sex and companionship with someone they just met, especially online. Sure it can happen... but usually it does not in the first hour of meeting someone.

It's manners, and a good take away from sales. Are you going to invite your client somewhere and tell them to go dutch? Good luck with that. Rapport is important. $40 is not a lot of money. If you can't invest $40 in an opportunity, you're too cheap to win the game.

Keep in mind... a woman that actually agrees to meet a potential psycho from the internet has some interest. She has to be extra ****ed up to waste her own time like that, given how many options women have on dating apps.

 

[EyeBRollin]

...because of principle. You don't know each other, therefore I think of a date as two people in the same boat, therefore they should share the initial date cost. I'm not being cheap, but knowing fem mentality these days I can certainly see that response.

No. You are the leader. Lead. You aren't helping your case by going dutch. You can only hurt it.