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How am I going to handle your indifference? It's simple, I'm going to allow you to express your opinion. I can't shut off your opinion, what I CAN DO is point out how your opinion is:

- Gynocentric
- Blue Pill based
- White Knight based
- Belongs more at Love Shack

But seeing as though people like you, LiveYourDream and Legend are all trying to turn this website into LoveShack, it won't be long before the Tenacity's of the world, the Pook Kings of the world, the LiveFree's of the world, etc., are GONE from this website.
What I CAN DO is point out how your opinions are:

- Misogynistic.
- Delusional (not even red or blue pill)
- Hate based
- Belongs at sluthate.

You know if you hateful guys leave, we have won. If all it takes is sticking to our opinions then I'll gladly do it, that's easy. I think loveshack is waaaay more constructive than a bunch of guys agreeing on how fvcked up the world is and how evil b!tches are, you're here to rid yourself of that resentment and not fuel it.
 

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What I CAN DO is point out how your opinions are:

- Misogynistic.
- Delusional (not even red or blue pill)
- Hate based
- Belongs at sluthate.

You know if you hateful guys leave, we have won. If all it takes is sticking to our opinions then I'll gladly do it, that's easy. I think loveshack is waaaay more constructive than a bunch of guys agreeing on how fvcked up the world is and how evil b!tches are, you're here to rid yourself of that resentment and not fuel it.
I'm glad you learned how to spell misogynistic lol, you can't label me as something sir and not spell it properly.

Now, I have pointed to details in your argument/statements on why I feel you are a white knight, blue pill based and gynocentric, do you care to point out how my statements are hating women and lacking logic?

And of course, if this site turns into Love Shack then I will leave. That's like asking why does someone leave a political party when that political party no longer represents its views, character, outlook and stances. Wouldn't it be stupid to remain a member of said party when it no longer represents me?

I stated a long time ago that one of the main reasons I joined this site was to network with guys who THOUGHT like I did. Well, if this site turns into Live Your Dream's version of Love Shack....then I'm getting the fvck out of here.
 

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@Tenacity and @LiveFreeX you fill this thread with personal attacks or attacks on my presence on this site. I do not believe you have actually commented in disagreement with anything specific I actually posted on the topic of this thread. I don't recall any current disagreements with what I have specifically written in other threads.

I understand that you are both upset that I am a female. I understand that Tenacity is upset that my picture is not posted. I don't understand why either would alter the value of the words I write here. Either they are a positive contribution to SS or they are not. I also get that Tenacity continually projects his dislike for the New Thought Movement (whatever that is) on me. I don't understand why he targets it at me in post after post. I know nothing about it. If he'd care to point out something I specifically write that is of issue, it would sure be helpful to understand than the on-going general projection that I have no reference for. I get that Tenacity is upset that while he has chosen not to be anonymous on an anonymous message board, he holds it against me that I remain anonymous. He's not demanding photos from all other posters as he is me. I get that Tenacity is deeply upset and offended that i have according to him received more 'recognition' than others. Apparently the 'Like' count is out of balance and upsetting him. I did not realize anyone watched those closely. What he attributes significance to is his own. I would hope anyone here is not attached to such numbers. I am not familiar with LoveShack but apparently Tenacity believes that my presence here is ruining SS into becoming like Loveshack. Apparently I am converting unsuspecting RedPill men into white knights and ruining SS. Apparently my magical, anonymous, unseen pvssy is destroying SS, as it is connected to the body that types up posts on SS, after all I am a female and that seems to be a significant offense suddenly. This is what I understand to be true for them. Do I understand correctly?

I am trying to make sense of this sudden upset, it does not make sense to me. All was fine last week, now in the last few days there are personal attacks but there are no issues with specific posts or what I've written that I can recall. I am having a hard time understanding what has suddenly changed. Help please? What changed? Is the upset all about the "Like count"? Really? That is the only thing I can figure out that possibly is upsetting to Tenacity that is different this week than last week, or the week before that and so on. I don't see any other variable changing. I also don't understand the upset about "Like count" either. That's me. Are there meaningful concerns or just projections?

It seems to me that if female was not written below my name, the current projected upset would not exist. I don't see an argument over the specifics I have written. If "like" count is truly an issue for Tenacity I imagine it would disappear if I was a man as there is no issue with any male's 'like' count. I thinking now that perhaps I am simply the beneficiary of projected anger and upset with women, more than anything. That's my best guess at understanding at the moment.

My perspective is that each day that I post, if even one of my posts got the feedback that my content was blue pill and inappropriate on a red pill site, several days in a row or often over time, than this upset would perhaps make sense to me. That is not the feedback I get here. If my content is not called out as being inappropriate post by post, how is it that suddenly my presence as a whole is threatening? Wouldn't my presence here only be a threat if my posts were misaligned with the values of SS? That's what makes logical sense to me anyway. I look forward to understanding more.
 
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@Tenacity I spelled it wrong because I didn't spell check after typing on my touch screen, not because I don't know how to correctly spell. Regardless you're not that dumb and understood what I meant.

You're taking the opposite perspective of what I'm assuming, you're the opposite of a white knight and that's a misogynist. I'm not as much of a white knight as you may think. I'm not a fvcking idiot who reward b!tches for sh!tty behavior. I don't reward fvcking idiot misogynist men either.

I'm not a b!tch to you, to other men or to women. I'm not a weak idiot who lets himself be abused. I don't stand up for all women, only the one's I have judged to deserve it. Standing up for a woman in itself is NOT enough to be a white knight. It's a typical white knight thing to do, but the typical white knight is a fvcking idiot because of other things. Mainly because he supports women in whatever crazy sh!t, I only support what's reasonable.
 

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@Tenacity and @LiveFreeX you fill this thread with personal attacks or attacks on my presence on this site. I do not believe you have actually commented in disagreement with anything specific I actually posted on the topic of this thread. I don't recall any current disagreements with what I have specifically written in other threads.

I understand that you are both upset that I am a female. I understand that Tenacity is upset that my picture is not posted. I don't understand why either would alter the value of the words I write here. Either they are a positive contribution to SS or they are not.
I'm tired of KBJs who get up here and just because they can regurgitate some shyt they heard elsewhere, they are now somehow labeled as an EXPERT when it comes to dating relations between men and women today. I learn from an individual's personal story, experiences, field reports and analysis from the field that they put up here. I'm sick of these philosophical members who get up here writing their touchy feely bullshyt, all while keeping all details on their personal interactions with women secret.

It's why I'm not a fanboy of Pook like others are here, why you ask? It's because nobody knows anything about this guy. He never posted a field report, information on a girl he was dating, any issues he needed to work on, NOTHING.

All the fvck he did is what you do LYD, get up here and post some philosophical shyt, which has opened the doors for people like you....who claims to be a woman...to do exactly what Pook did, which is just write a bunch of philosophical shyt but not reveal one detail about who the hell you are.

I also get that Tenacity continually projects his dislike for the New Thought Movement (whatever that is) on me. I don't understand why he targets it at me in post after post. I know nothing about it.
Which proves my point that you are just a regurgitator, repeating mantras and phrases that you don't even understand the origin of. Here's a complete breakdown of The New Thought Movement. When I say you sound like a TV prosperity gospel preacher (remember I called you Joyce Meyers), now you will understand why I said that.

I am having a hard time understanding what has suddenly changed. Help please? What changed? Is the upset all about the "Like count"? Really? That is the only thing I can figure out that possibly is upsetting to Tenacity that is different this week than last week, or the week before that and so on. I don't see any other variable changing. I also don't understand the upset about "Like count" either. That's me. Are there meaningful concerns or just projections?
- I want to know WHY you are here?

- What do you GET out of this site?

- What are you seeking to improve on?

- You say you are a 45 year old woman, well, I want to see WHAT you look like. I want a photobucket posted with a sign that says 2/29/2016 and the name LIVE YOUR DREAM on it.

That's it, obviously you don't have to comply with any of my requests, but if you don't then the situation will still be on the table pertaining to what your gender really is, along with what your purpose is on this site. This is a male self-improvement site, why is a woman on here giving advice? And touchy feely advice at that??

Penkitten at least has a picture posted, from what I can tell she looks kinda sexy, so I personally wouldn't mind her input on things related to male/female dating in today's market. For all I know LYD, you could be a fvcking WHALE, which means you have no business in this conversation, sorry!

Or, you could be a guy pretending to be a woman, after all you've been on here since November 2014 posting your touchy feely shyt and didn't reveal you were a chick until a damn month ago!
 

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@Tenacity I spelled it wrong because I didn't spell check after typing on my touch screen, not because I don't know how to correctly spell. Regardless you're not that dumb and understood what I meant.
Hey all I'm saying is that if you are going to call me a woman hater, at least spell the damn word right.

You're taking the opposite perspective of what I'm assuming, you're the opposite of a white knight and that's a misogynist.
Explain the LOGIC of this statement? So if you aren't a white knight, that means you hate women? There's no middle ground?

I'm not as much of a white knight as you may think. I'm not a fvcking idiot who reward b!tches for sh!tty behavior. I don't reward fvcking idiot misogynist men either.
I'm still waiting on your logic with details on how I supposedly hate women? You do know that I revealed in a couple of my threads that I mainly HANG OUT with women right? My social circle is mainly women, women I'm trying to fvck or women I'm already fvcking. How in the hell do I hate women when that's all I hang with for the most part? That's like saying someone who likes visiting the zoo hates animals.

I don't stand up for all women, only the one's I have judged to deserve it.
Like who? LYD? How do you even know she's a woman?

Standing up for a woman in itself is NOT enough to be a white knight. It's a typical white knight thing to do, but the typical white knight is a fvcking idiot because of other things. Mainly because he supports women in whatever crazy sh!t, I only support what's reasonable.
"Reasonable" is in the eyes of the beholder. You are a complete white knight, why do I think so? Because you immediately labeled me a WOMAN HATER because I made criticisms of women in general, without knowing anything about my personal interactions with women at all. That is what white knights as well as far left liberals do. As a man you aren't allowed to say shyt (and I mean SHYT) that a woman does wrong, does stupidly, or anything of the sort....because if you do then that means you are "bashing" women and it also means you "hate" women.

Now of course women can talk shyt about a man or other men all day long, that's not "hating men" or "bashing men" at all :rolleyes:
 

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It's why I'm not a fanboy of Pook like others are here, why you ask? It's because nobody knows anything about this guy. He never posted a field report, information on a girl he was dating, any issues he needed to work on, NOTHING.
He did share his experiences, what women he dated and what he worked on. He just weaved it into his text with emotion.

You're crude, Pook was refined. You continue going against what I value, I don't have respect for your opinions. This discussion is over.

Also, my point was exactly that there's a middle ground. A thought which I successfully did induce with my statement, good job being predictable.
 

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He did share his experiences, what women he dated and what he worked on. He just weaved it into his text with emotion.

You're crude, Pook was refined. You continue going against what I value, I don't have respect for your opinions. This discussion is over.

Also, my point was exactly that there's a middle ground. A thought which I successfully did induce with my statement, good job being predictable.
You argue just like a woman.

- Pook never said a damn thing about a woman he was dating, post the thread right now.

- What do you mean your point was that there's a middle ground, when you CLEARLY stated that men who aren't white knights are women haters to you? That's what you STATED.

You argue like a damn woman.
 

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You argue just like a woman.

- Pook never said a damn thing about a woman he was dating, post the thread right now.

- What do you mean your point was that there's a middle ground, when you CLEARLY stated that men who aren't white knights are women haters to you? That's what you STATED.

You argue like a damn woman.
Yeah I argue like a woman, what are you implying by saying that? That my ego will be hurt? It will not because I don't regard women and their methods of arguing as lesser.

I don't give a sh!t, I reject your frame.
 

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My god his thread... Let me rephrase...
3 rules to live life by:
1. Fvck
2. Don't give a fvck
3. Don't get fvcked over.

Too many fvcks being given here in this thread.
So back to helping this guy who posted about his stuff, if he even decides to come back to this derailed train
 

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You know if you hateful guys leave, we have won. If all it takes is sticking to our opinions then I'll gladly do it, that's easy. I think loveshack is waaaay more constructive than a bunch of guys agreeing on how fvcked up the world is and how evil b!tches are, you're here to rid yourself of that resentment and not fuel it.
Yes of course you would. Young man, it was the SS culture which opened my eyes to the true nature of women in North America. The longer you stay here and the more you game, the faster you will arrive at Tenacity's state of mind. Something women conveniently misunderstand is that men will nod along to whatever they say and defend them to the death for no reason other than a woman was born without a d1ck, somehow rendering her defenseless. They will turn on each other, crawl through sh1t just for the opportunity to stab their best friend in the back for a little pat on the head [****blocking 101]. The more women that enter this forum, the more white knights will reveal themselves. You can deny it as much as you like, but it is a reality for MEN every day. Your statement Grew, shows your lack of field experience and understanding of just how important the game actually is.

There are only a couple girls I would welcome on here, Karen Straughn and Lauren Southern, they'd be ok because they understand, speak about and FIGHT publicly on behalf of men and how bs the world has become for us, rosy it ain't. Uninhibited sex has made the world of feminism possible and for anyone who thinks living and loving in this world is going to be a cake walk, you are highly misinformed. You came here to better understand men? Well now you do, you can see that some 'nice' men will be at our throats for calling you out, simply because you were 'offended' and hurting a woman's feelings in their minds is akin to physically hurting them. You nice guys are largely unsuccessful with women, because you don't know how and when to call women out on their bullsh1t and don't understand the true nature of the game. You are here to GAIN that resentment and it is from that rejection of the world we live in, that your power over women will grow.

I don't understand why men are listening to a 45 yo un-married woman. An un-married woman has failed to complete her mission and is in no position to encourage men to play the game. There is no equality in this situation, there is no such thing as a woman DJ, they walk a different path in life. As an 'admitted' woman, you have no business advising men on this forum of anything game related. A woman's advice is 99% fluff unless she is angry. They will lie to you and tell you everything is OK and sugar coat your life, so as not to hurt your precious little feelings. Men do not do this.

The willingness of the users here to 'sweep this under the rug' shows complete lack of experience with the white knight phenomenon and why it needs to be addressed before it consumes the entire forum.

If in 5 years, you are still a woman's plaything, you will have learned nothing.
 
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So far she gave me great advice on the thread I made. Actual advice about how to face the fear and blockage I was feeling on a repeating situation. Is it good advice? I think yes, it is, I have to test it, I will test it, but it makes sense and is coherent with the SoSuave "system" of game.
 

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A white knight stands up for women who are acting like b!tches. I think that such behavior is pathetic, and that defending b!tch behavior and defending women when they act like pathetic children needs to be eliminated with the utmost in intolerance.
However, LiveYourDream has not as of yet done anything that I would consider b!tch behavior. I do not hate women... I hate b!tches, and men can be act like b!ches too.

I did not know this place was supposed to be some kind of "safe space"... I thought it was an open forum for providing advice.

And @SayWhat if you want to discuss this further you can set up a Conversation through your profile. You can add me and whoever else you figure you want to get advice from (you can have multiple people in a conversation). Just because it looks like this thread is derailing and will never get back on the track.
 
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Yes of course you would. Young man, it was the SS culture which opened my eyes to the true nature of women in North America. The longer you stay here and the more you game, the faster you will arrive at Tenacity's state of mind. Something women conveniently misunderstand is that men will nod along to whatever they say and defend them to the death for no reason other than a woman was born without a d1ck, somehow rendering her defenseless. They will turn on each other, crawl through sh1t just for the opportunity to stab their best friend in the back for a little pat on the head [****blocking 101]. The more women that enter this forum, the more white knights will reveal themselves. You can deny it as much as you like, but it is a reality for MEN every day. Your statement Grew, shows your lack of field experience and understanding of just how important the game actually is.
Dude this is 100% true and it's honestly why I don't keep a lot of guy friends. I swear once we get around a group of chicks their personalities change and they will STAB their homie of 5 - 10 years in the back for a cheap piece of pvssy that nearly every man in the zip code has hit. The constant posturing, their lame attempts to make themselves seem "important" and all of this bullshyt everytime a damn chick or a group of chicks come around, just pisses me off.

That's why my social circle is mainly plates I'm spinning, women I'm trying to turn into plates, or guys that I do BUSINESS with. I'm sorry, but I just don't keep a lot of guy friends, they are untrustworthy and just bytch-made if you ask me.

I don't understand why men are listening to a 45 yo un-married woman. An un-married woman has failed to complete her mission and is in no position to encourage men to play the game. There is no equality in this situation, there is no such thing as a woman DJ, they walk a different path in life. As an 'admitted' woman, you have no business advising men on this forum of anything game related. A woman's advice is 99% fluff unless she is angry. They will lie to you and tell you everything is OK and sugar coat your life, so as not to hurt your precious little feelings. Men do not do this.
Man this was the point I was trying to drive home, why would a woman be on this site? Seriously just think about that for a minute? Assuming she's REALLY a woman, she has to be some type of troll or maybe she's a secret informant who is taking information back to a blog that she has to write about? Or, maybe she's just a 45 year old WHALE who wants to spit her touchy feely, emotional bullshyt on this forum?

Like I said, she's been here since November 2014 and check her post history, she came in right off the bat with the touchy feely "advice". She didn't say shyt about being a woman until a month ago. If that doesn't question her (or his) credibility, then what will?

Also notice how she refuses to answer my question on why she's on this forum, she won't even post a picture proving she's a woman either...it's bullshyt.

Her advice is also horrible, just like the white knights or the other touchy feely posters like Legend who co-sign everything she says. They get mad when I say this is turning into Love Shack, but it is! Guys like Poon King, LiveFree and Tenacity are pushed to the side by these guys, while people like Live Your Dream is propped up as the hero lol? Are you fvcking kidding me? This 45 year old chick (who is probably a WHALE) is one of the top members on this site with the bullshyt posts that she makes about some touchy feely shyt? You have got to be fvcking kidding me.

They want members here to see this world as some "great place full of great people", this world is FVCKED up. Keep thinking the world is some "nice place", this world is nothing but a giant GAME BOARD. The people that win in this life are those who understand how the game works and play the game to win, the people that lose in this life are those who REFUSE to understand the game or REFUSE to accept how the game actually works, thus, they refuse to play it.

I play to win.
 

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Dude this is 100% true and it's honestly why I don't keep a lot of guy friends. I swear once we get around a group of chicks their personalities change and they will STAB their homie of 5 - 10 years in the back for a cheap piece of pvssy that nearly every man in the zip code has hit. The constant posturing, their lame attempts to make themselves seem "important" and all of this bullshyt everytime a damn chick or a group of chicks come around, just pisses me off.

That's why my social circle is mainly plates I'm spinning, women I'm trying to turn into plates, or guys that I do BUSINESS with. I'm sorry, but I just don't keep a lot of guy friends, they are untrustworthy and just bytch-made if you ask me.



Man this was the point I was trying to drive home, why would a woman be on this site? Seriously just think about that for a minute? Assuming she's REALLY a woman, she has to be some type of troll or maybe she's a secret informant who is taking information back to a blog that she has to write about? Or, maybe she's just a 45 year old WHALE who wants to spit her touchy feely, emotional bullshyt on this forum?

Like I said, she's been here since November 2014 and check her post history, she came in right off the bat with the touchy feely "advice". She didn't say shyt about being a woman until a month ago. If that doesn't question her (or his) credibility, then what will?

Also notice how she refuses to answer my question on why she's on this forum, she won't even post a picture proving she's a woman either...it's bullshyt.

Her advice is also horrible, just like the white knights or the other touchy feely posters like Legend who co-sign everything she says. They get mad when I say this is turning into Love Shack, but it is! Guys like Poon King, LiveFree and Tenacity are pushed to the side by these guys, while people like Live Your Dream is propped up as the hero lol? Are you fvcking kidding me? This 45 year old chick (who is probably a WHALE) is one of the top members on this site with the bullshyt posts that she makes about some touchy feely shyt? You have got to be fvcking kidding me.

They want members here to see this world as some "great place full of great people", this world is FVCKED up. Keep thinking the world is some "nice place", this world is nothing but a giant GAME BOARD. The people that win in this life are those who understand how the game works and play the game to win, the people that lose in this life are those who REFUSE to understand the game or REFUSE to accept how the game actually works, thus, they refuse to play it.

I play to win.
Two thirty-something life losers giving each other bl*wjobs and thumping their chests about "winning". Neither could buy a piece of ass in a low grade wh*rehouse.
 

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Two thirty-something life losers giving each other bl*wjobs and thumping their chests about "winning". Neither could buy a piece of ass in a low grade wh*rehouse.
Says the anonymous troll who just joined 5 minutes ago.
 

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Says the anonymous troll who just joined 5 minutes ago.
Yawn.

You don't need to read much of you or your butt boy's tripe to know that neither of you could know what a clue was much less what to do with one if you tripped over it.

Keep bitching! That'll work. Your life will be perfect if you whine long enough and loud enough.
 
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