Problem with Corey Wayne's Book: Opening Up Girlfriend When She's Pissed

[Stugots26]

Anyone else who's read Corey Wayne's book take issue with the section where he discusses how to open up a woman who's shut down and says "Nothing" is wrong? He gives examples like singing a silly song, throwing small things at her, taking out dishes she's putting away. All I can think is why is he bothering to engage her?

For me, my "agree and amplify" instincts kick in. Why would I want to attempt to communicate with a woman who tells me that "nothing" is wrong when something obviously is and thus can't communicate with me? Doesn't that improperly reward bad behavior with my time and attention? I'm much more tempted in these situations to say, "Okay, good to know" and walk away, carrying on with my life. If she's got a problem, she can bring it up to me properly.

This type of behavior reeks of passive-aggression, which he says to avoid and eject in his videos. This seems like a real contradiction.

Thoughts?

 

[AttackFormation]

Both ways will work. I say though to do what's comfortable to you, and what works for you. In his way, it will evoke tons of emotion in her. In your way, you are ignoring her. Both will get the hamster wheels burning some rubber.

Id say if she were a child, which approach would foster her best? Like you i can see both having merits. But i think agree and amplify would encourage more maturity in the long run. Id make it the rule and the other way the exception.

 

[SayWhat]

I've read the book recently, most of the time my thoughts were he explained (read 'bragged') some of his own situations smelled of a beta man, especially the situation you are talking about.

To be honest, when watching his videos I get this feeling as well. He gives solid, standard advice, but some of it is just horsep*ss.

 

[Stugots26]

he explained (read 'bragged')

when watching his videos I get this feeling as well.

Couldn't agree more. I believe some of these women are as hot as he mentions, but I'm wondering whether some of it might have to do with his accumulated wealth. Driving a Lotus Esprit (not my cup of tea, but still, it's expensive and exotic and screams status) tends to help.

 

[RangerMIke]

It's been awhile since I read his book. A lot of it had good advice IMO, but he was too long winded.

I do agree that the only way to get a woman from not being ticked at you is to get her to tell you what is really bothering her. You have to be persistent, and what you do is going to depend on the woman. Acting like a persistent clown might work for some, but others would respond better if you were just a pr!ick and refuse to leave her alone until she just blurts it out.

It's usually some stupid misunderstanding... if it's something you did wrong... own it and apologize ONCE. Then fvck her. It's really not that hard.

 

[Stugots26]

Acting like a persistent clown might work for some, but others would respond better if you were just a pr!ick and refuse to leave her alone until she just blurts it out.

I can't rationalize to myself ever actively drawing communication out of an uncommunicative woman. If she won't tell me what's wrong and instead chooses passive-aggression, I'm not going to participate, and when she's willing to be open, sweet, and loving again, she can have my attention.

 

[Desdinova]

Going about my business when "nothing" is wrong has always worked flawlessly. She gets frustrated and then lets it all out. Why stray from what works?

 

[fastlife]

I think any of the techniques mentioned in this thread are equally valid--as long as you're not engaging her emotionally or seeking to elicit a reaction.

For instance, ignoring her can be passive aggressive (if you're doing it to get back to her) or confident & purposeful (if you have more important **** to do). Tickling her or joking can be supplicating & codependent (Please be happy, baby) or it can come from a place of amused mastery (You're a goofy little weirdo I can't even take seriously).

I'll throw in my favorite: Escalating hard sexually (but that's something that works best if you haven't failed this **** test a couple times already).

 

[AttackFormation]

I'll throw in my favorite: Escalating hard sexually (but that's something that works best if you haven't failed this **** test a couple times already).

This is my favourite way to deal with these kinds of things too. You just literally make her shut up by forcibly making out, groping her, and then you proceed to the heavy duty stuff like grabbing her throat to bend over and spank her before pushing her crotch/ass into your crotch and so on...

 

[wifehunter]

I dont know why anyone would want to do that. You're asolutely not going to get a rational conversation when she's pissed. Best to wait till she cools off.

 

[GoodOne123]

He means doing that when you have been with the girl for a while and care and trust eachother. When something is bothering your partner you want to hear it, and relieve their stress and frustration by letting them talk about it. It's called being supportive, what a good partner does in an LTR.

But let's say you're just dating a girl, you don't know her that well, and nothing is serious between the two of you. By all means you can ignore her and carry on with whatever you want to do. The reason why is that a girl should be eager to impress you and be her best self during the dating phase. If she is moody a lot of the time it means she just doesn't care enough to pull herself together around you. It's basic courtesy that when you hang out with someone you shouldn't have a bad attitude about you, it ruins the time you have with that person if you do. A girl you're dating should at least have the decency to get it off her chest if she can't look past it, mention it from the beginning, so that you both can enjoy the rest of your time together from that point on. A girl with a crappy/moody attitude is a big no no.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Corey Wayne is a goofball and a snake oil salesman charging $500 for email consultations and can you imagine singing a song or taking out dishes a girl is putting away when she's pissed at you? The answer is upping the alpha big time by giving her a death stare that implores her to cut the crap, or yes, laugh in her face and start groping her.

"Life coaches" are the phoniest people on the planet. What the hell is a "life coach" anyway...