Now we are getting somewhere!Just wanted to update this thread. So I'm wondering, to the guys who talk about targeting more quality women (those without kids, good finances, good looks) I'm just wondering do you guys notice what I've been noticing, and it's that a lot of times they are more DIFFICULT to manage?
It's like, the chicks who have something wrong with them, such as bad finances or maybe two kids, or maybe weight problems, it's like they have better behavior or something? It's like it's much easier for me to control the frame, move the chick forward, and the whole nine yards.
The more "quality" chicks usually always take longer to fvck, they are harder to fvck, they don't communicate as QUICKLY as the other type of chicks do, they are more likely to be fickle, more likely to cancel a date at the last minute, etc.
Do you guys think this is just the way it is, or might I be doing something that's causing this? When people like T.O. say that my personality might be totally off, I just don't see it? The chicks are laughing, having a good time, the traditional "seduction" stuff such as ****y/funny, kino and elicting values are all incorporated into my "natural" personality, but maybe I'm missing something that I'm doing wrong and don't know it? OR, are these chicks just more of a pain in the a.ss in general??
Think about the observations you are making here. It's not that quality chicks are more difficult. They are more selective and picky. It makes sense. They have the option to choose better for themselves. This goes for quality women and men.
A low quality chick will make it easy for a guy. She has to. How many guys fall for that sh!t looking for an easy piece of a$$ and end up frustrated with the results? Most do.
A higher quality chick may go through the motions and react positively to all the classic seduction stuff but when push comes to shove if she senses you aren't the real deal then you get resistance and what you perceive as difficulty. I am NOT saying that you need to jump through more hoops to land a high quality chick. However, if a girl is really interested in you she WILL make it easy for you. You may not be doing anything wrong but you may not be creating any real interest in these higher quality women.
When it comes to seduction, I think a lot of male/female interaction ends up being just fluff. You can lay down all the seduction skills and attributes that we know work with women but that will only take you so far. With a low quality chick it will get you laid or even married. With a higher quality chick it may not get you anywhere. She has the option to be more selective.
While most interactions start off with "fluff" at some point it needs to get "real" for things to get to the next level. THIS is where I think most guys have a problem when it comes to higher quality women. They can't get over this hump because they don't have it within themselves, or they don't even realize it is there. They end up choosing the easy path and fvcking around with lower quality chicks who don't require this step.
I've spoken in the past about making genuine connections with genuine people. Think about those two requirements. Ask yourself when the last time you experienced that during a seduction. People are like onions. We have layers or walls around us. This is especially true in today's dating scene. What we show on the outside is not necessarily the people we are. I believe that being great at seducing women is learning how to get past those outer layers that we all have and expose the insides. It goes both ways too. If you are not willing to go there then I don't think you will EVER make a real connection with a quality person. In fact you won't even recognize ANYONE as being quality. Sadly I think this is a problem that plagues many.
Sure some onions look fine on the outside but end up being rotten at the core. Others look awful but end up being sweet. That is the interesting part of meeting new people. If you don't get past that fluff stage and peel back the layers you never really get to know anyone and people don't really know you. Getting past our outer layers is how real or genuine connections are made. You certainly don't do that with c0cky + funny routines, kino, push/pull techniques or any other seduction fluff.
I have buddies who complain about not meeting quality chicks too. Yet when I hang out with them, their primary goal is to get laid. They don't give a fvck about anything else and it's obvious to chicks even when they are trying to act genuine. How the fvck do you expect to meet a person of "quality" when you don't possess (or don't show) those qualities yourself? It's laughable.
We've all heard it said before that men and women tend to pair up in relationships with others who are of similar looks. (ie. 7's get with 7's. 9's get with 9's.) I believe the same can be said about people's class of character or "quality". If you aren't attracting the quality of woman you desire then you need to examine your own qualities. Maybe you don't have or don't exude the "quality" that you believe you possess.
I can remember one night way back when. I was getting ridiculously hit on by a very sexy (and slvtty looking) blonde at a bar one night with my drunken buddies. I could've easily banged this girl and it was tempting but it was obvious to me that she was bad news. I played along for awhile but eventually shot her down. I received a tongue lashing from the boys that night about how I was breaking some sort of guy code or laws of nature. Fvck that! I choose not to have stuff like that in my life. Is it really any different than choosing not to do bad drugs at a party? Sure you could indulge and have a great time in the moment but in the morning you would regret it and wonder why you lowered yourself to that level.
I also believe that choosing the high road or demanding higher quality for yourself (in everything not just women) tends to be a self fulfilling prophecy. You kind of create a reputation for yourself and this attracts better quality women by default. You can't roll around in the ditches with the slvts and low quality women all the time and then expect to suddenly move up in the world when you finally meet quality. This reputation doesn't happen over night either. It's something that you grow into and it emanates from you. Higher quality women sense it in you and lower quality women know that you are out of their league.
I think you are starting to make progress here Ten. Keep going brother.
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