Did I lose her or no?

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So I went on two dates with this chick back to back, she's pretty damn hot. We've been talking for 3 weeks now, almost every day. She has a lot of good qualities and I Was impressed that she made the 2 hour drive to see me, however she talks about herself ALOT. The other day I texted her asking her how her day was and she was complaining about her problems at work (as usual) and I finally lost it with her. I responded with this text

"You know you talk about yourself and your problems and your issues a lot. I don't think you've asked me how my day was or how I'm doing the entire time that I've known you"

She responds with "yes I have, wtf"
"dont come at me like that right now"

me "alright...have a good night"


Anyways ever since I called her out on that, she stopped talking to me. Is she embarrassed that I called her out for who she really is or what? Any advice on What can I say to get things back to normal at this point?

I just couldn't take her complaining anymore fellas. Beautiful, sweet chick, but has a major princess complex. Im trying to overlook it because she has so many good qualities,
 

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So I went on two dates with this chick back to back, she's pretty damn hot. We've been talking for 3 weeks now, almost every day. She has a lot of good qualities and I Was impressed that she made the 2 hour drive to see me, however she talks about herself ALOT. The other day I texted her asking her how her day was and she was complaining about her problems at work (as usual) and I finally lost it with her. I responded with this text

"You know you talk about yourself and your problems and your issues a lot. I don't think you've asked me how my day was or how I'm doing the entire time that I've known you"

She responds with "yes I have, wtf"
"dont come at me like that right now"

me "alright...have a good night"


Anyways ever since I called her out on that, she stopped talking to me. Is she embarrassed that I called her out for who she really is or what? Any advice on What can I say to get things back to normal at this point?

I just couldn't take her complaining anymore fellas. Beautiful, sweet chick, but has a major princess complex. Im trying to overlook it because she has so many good qualities,
Sounds like a typical AFC thing to say, especially via text.

Aww, poor baby. You need her to ask how your day was? Does she need to come pinch your cheeks and ask you to come sit on her lap too?

Cmon bro. Serously?
 

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I wouldn't have said that unless I had 'dated' her a couple of months.
She just doesn't give a sh-it about you, and you should assume this is true for almost everygirl you meet. They just care about themselves, you're just there to entertain her the majority of the time.So you either accept it, keep banging her etc, or you complain to her, she gets offended and depending on how crazy she is, you stop seing her. Your choice.

Anyway, if you dont like her personality, what can you do about it right?
 

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Bro. I've got one thing to say to you: man-up.

She doesn't care about you, and doesn't give a fvck about your day. Most women are like this. A lot of women are selfish and do not care about your day or about you in general, they just want to flap their mouths about THEM the whole day; they'd rather not wanna hear about you unless they are interested themselves.

You complaining about how she doesn't wanna discuss your life isn't gonna contribute to your progress with any girl. In the future I advise to never tell a girl off like this again. I'm pretty sure girls don't wanna hear you complain about how they have no concern about your life. Like I said they're selfish and they don't care about your day; matter fact a lot of people on this Earth don't; male or female.

Imagine if this was a guy friend and you've known him for 3 weeks and all he talks about is himself, but you complain that yall never discuss your life. That's kinda odd because you're that not close with him and haven't known him for that long.

I'd really advise you not do this again with females in the future, especially ones you just met. It'd be okay if you were dating her for I'd say 4+ months, but I don't think at this stage she'd care or even have a shred of concern for you, unless you really raise her interest.


And one thing: don't give a girl too much attention. When you give a girl too much attention she'll get the idea that you have nothing else to do but be around her and that you have no other options besides her; thus she'll feel like she has you wrapped around her finger and she'll probably stop trying to get with you because she feels like you're her little lap dog, and she didn't have to work at all to get your time.

If you're going to be with a girl for so long, make her earn your time. If she does something right, she gets more of your time. If she does something wrong, she gets less. It's up to you though what you deem "wrong" and "right".

Also, the fact that you went off complaining to her means you've probably lost her or are on your way to losing her. Remember, women are the ones to complain and they're definitely not attracted to women who complain. There's nothing wrong with a man putting a WOMAN in her place and telling her not to do something, but don't complain. You'll be seen as feminine and she'll probably lose interest.
 

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So I went on two dates with this chick back to back, she's pretty damn hot. We've been talking for 3 weeks now, almost every day. She has a lot of good qualities and I Was impressed that she made the 2 hour drive to see me, however she talks about herself ALOT. The other day I texted her asking her how her day was and she was complaining about her problems at work (as usual) and I finally lost it with her. I responded with this text

"You know you talk about yourself and your problems and your issues a lot. I don't think you've asked me how my day was or how I'm doing the entire time that I've known you"

She responds with "yes I have, wtf"
"dont come at me like that right now"

me "alright...have a good night"


Anyways ever since I called her out on that, she stopped talking to me. Is she embarrassed that I called her out for who she really is or what? Any advice on What can I say to get things back to normal at this point?

I just couldn't take her complaining anymore fellas. Beautiful, sweet chick, but has a major princess complex. Im trying to overlook it because she has so many good qualities,
Total fail. You WANT her talking about herself. A lot. You remain a mystery. Take action, action, action.

Go check out the don juan bible bud. Start some light reading. And pursue other women.
 

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Total fail. You WANT her talking about herself. A lot. You remain a mystery. Take action, action, action.

Go check out the don juan bible bud. Start some light reading. And pursue other women.
A woman constantly complaining, not even trying to conceal her problems, that's low IL and the beginning of a lot of problems. One of them is that she sees you as her girlfriend, beta orbiter or white knight. In my book, it's red flag all over the place.

Nobody like to show their problems right away at the beginning of a relationship. That's not normal behavior.

OP answer was not funny and beta. Still, that answer was given because of low IL on both sides. He just ejected her.

What's AFC is to ask if you've lost her or not. You didn't lose her. She's lost you. You ejected her because she's annoying. Just learn how to do it with more class next time.

And you can ask yourself why a woman you meet start talking about her problems right away. If everytime you try to inject some fun she cut it and complains, then eject. If you behave like the good ear and you seems like you will solve her problem then it's bad for you.
 

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How long has it been since you've spoken with her?

You need to go ghost for a bit, then text her and invite her out for coffee or an inexpensive lunch (Panera or something).

Also, if you get another shot, put a stop to the 'talk to her everyday' thing
Two days so far. Things were going exactly the way I wanted them to, I got physical with her on the first date ....she is always the one texting me first 90% of the time, my texts always have some sort of value. I know She's said a few things like
"I think you like me a lot more than your willing to admit to yourself" Which tells me that she's questioning how much she thinks I like her. Which Im fine with, guys tend to fall for her quickly and I know it scares her off.

Im trying not to stress, there have been a few times when I've gone major AFC and still got the lay, couple times I've done everything perfect and still came up short. I will say that I probably like this girl more than any chick I've gone out with in the past two years, which is why Im making a thread about it.
 

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A woman constantly complaining, not even trying to conceal her problems, that's low IL and the beginning of a lot of problems. One of them is that she sees you as her girlfriend, beta orbiter or white knight. In my book, it's red flag all over the place.

Nobody like to show their problems right away at the beginning of a relationship. That's not normal behavior.

OP answer was not funny and beta. Still, that answer was given because of low IL on both sides. He just ejected her.

What's AFC is to ask if you've lost her or not. You didn't lose her. She's lost you. You ejected her because she's annoying. Just learn how to do it with more class next time.

And you can ask yourself why a woman you meet start talking about her problems right away. If everytime you try to inject some fun she cut it and complains, then eject. If you behave like the good ear and you seems like you will solve her problem then it's bad for you.
Well I should of been more clear, she did try to conceal her problems.......when she stopped blowing up my phone i finally texted her asking if everything was ok with her and she said she didn't want to talk about it. I tried to act like I cared and forced the issue out of her. So yeah I ****ed up in that regard. the only thing i did right is I made out with her and grabbed her ass in the parking lot on the first date to make my intentions clear with her because she flat out admitted she friend zones pretty much every guy...
 

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Hoping I can still salvage this fellas, going ghost is the general conscious?
 
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Sounds like a typical AFC thing to say, especially via text.

Aww, poor baby. You need her to ask how your day was? Does she need to come pinch your cheeks and ask you to come sit on her lap too?

Cmon bro. Serously?
Bro she said "don't come at me like that right now", that's the response of a chick that feels dissed or attacked not of a guy she views as AFC. I hadn't spoken with her in days, and she's talking about her coworkers for 45 minutes straight cursing them out after I had already listened to her ***** and moan and given her advice on how to handle the situation. When she didn't take my advice, I lost my temper and said what I did.....I just couldn't deal with it anymore, I've been wanting to say it to her for a while...
 

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Hoping I can still salvage this fellas. Since she thinks Im a huge **** now can going AFC might work to my benefit me here? Make up some bull**** tell her I miss her?
Going AFC will never work to your benefit.

given her advice on how to handle the situation
That's what you missed her. If girls do not ASK for advices then don't give any. Just listen. Nod. Then inject some fun, laugh, kiss and fvck her. You are not her girlfriend.
 

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Bro she said "don't come at me like that right now", that's the response of a chick that feels dissed or attacked not of a guy she views as AFC. I hadn't spoken with her in days, and she's talking about her coworkers for 45 minutes straight cursing them out after I had already listened to her ***** and moan and given her advice on how to handle the situation. When she didn't take my advice, I lost my temper and said what I did.....I just couldn't deal with it anymore, I've been wanting to say it to her for a while...
There's a high probability that she's getting harpooned by someone giving her really good D. He dominates her, RAVAGES her. There's a high likelihood she digs her fingernails into his back as he gives her that Long John. Think about this as you wonder about her. Go out and take what's yours or move on and spin more plates. Good luck.
 

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Going AFC will never work to your benefit.



That's what you missed her. If girls do not ASK for advices then don't give any. Just listen. Nod. Then inject some fun, laugh, kiss and fvck her. You are not her girlfriend.
Your splitting hairs. This chick was not right next to me when this happened, she's an hour away and I I haven't seen her in two weeks, nor have I even ****ed her yet. This is just texting. She never asked me for advice either I just wanted her to stop complaining
 

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There's a high probability that she's getting harpooned by someone giving her really good D. He dominates her, RAVAGES her. There's a high likelihood she digs her fingernails into his back as he gives her that Long John. Think about this as you wonder about her. Go out and take what's yours or move on and spin more plates. Good luck.
Doubt it, her IL was too high. Girls getting good D don't blow up your phone 24/7 and drive an hour and a half to your house just to go on a second date with you.
There's a high probability that she's getting harpooned by someone giving her really good D. He dominates her, RAVAGES her. There's a high likelihood she digs her fingernails into his back as he gives her that Long John. Think about this as you wonder about her. Go out and take what's yours or move on and spin more plates. Good luck.
 

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Thanks for the help fellas. I'm just gonna go ghost, maybe she'll come back.... I guess I'm just having a hard time with reality here, she's a legit 9 and has every guy in a 100 mile radius after her. Unless I can get a supermodel to fall in love with me, I won't be able to top this. Oh well..that's life I guess.
 

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Thanks for the help fellas. I'm just gonna go ghost, maybe she'll come back.... I guess I'm just having a hard time with reality here, she's a legit 9 and has every guy in a 100 mile radius after her. Unless I can get a supermodel to fall in love with me, I won't be able to top this. Oh well..that's life I guess.
You keep trying to argue that what you did was somehow OK, when everyone has pretty much said it was stupid for you to say that especially via text.

You barely knew the chick, hadn't fvcked her but yet treated her like she was your girlfriend for a year.

You can keep arguing that you did nothing wrong, but then you'll likely repeat the same thing with the next girl. It's irrelevant if a chick asks you how your day was. For you to get that upset about something so dumb tells her you aren't used to how women act, which means you don't get laid often, which means her IL just plummeted.
 

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she's pretty damn hot.
I guess I'm just having a hard time with reality here, she's a legit 9 and has every guy in a 100 mile radius after her.
Yeah, that's obvious, saying a chick is a 9, when she's probably more like a 6.

We've been talking for 3 weeks now, almost every day.
How does this benefit you? You are aware of the fact that women are attention fiends and this broad was using as an attention fix.

She has a lot of good qualities
How can you make this assessment when you barely know her.

however she talks about herself A LOT.
I personally don't see this as a problem. It keeps you from inadvertently saying or doing something that would turn her off.

The other day I texted her asking her how her day was
How was this suppose to benefit you?

"You know you talk about yourself and your problems and your issues a lot. I don't think you've asked me how my day was or how I'm doing the entire time that I've known you"
Why would she? She's not your girlfriend and again, I particularly don't see this as being a problem.

Anyways ever since I called her out on that, she stopped talking to me.
Why aren't you spinning plates?

Is she embarrassed that I called her out for who she really is or what?
Why do you care?

Any advice on what can I say to get things back to normal at this point?
How does having daily text marathons with this broad benefit you?

Beautiful, sweet chick,
You need to produce a picture of this supposed "beautiful sweet chick."

but has a major princess complex.
Why didn't you stop that sh*t when it started?

I'm trying to overlook it because she has so many good qualities,
Why are you imagining the the supposed "good qualities,' that ole girl has?

nor have I even f*cked her yet. This is just texting.


Nor will you.
 

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Thanks for the help fellas. I'm just gonna go ghost, maybe she'll come back.... I guess I'm just having a hard time with reality here, she's a legit 9 and has every guy in a 100 mile radius after her. Unless I can get a supermodel to fall in love with me, I won't be able to top this. Oh well..that's life I guess.
man you got some work to do.

do you think she's a 9, or does society perceive her as a 9? don't place her on a pedestal. I'll say it again: Don't place her on the pedestal.

the way you just called her a 9 sounded like you're putting her on a pedestal; and it also sounds like you've got a loser/pessimistic attitude about it, and that she's unreachable.

allow me to bring you back down to planet earth and out of your delusions:

SHE'S HUMAN. Like me and you alike, she's a human, it's just that she's got a pvssy, but so what? she eats, sleeps, sh1ts, bleeds the same as us. she came into this world outta her mom pvssy and she's going to die and return to ashes just like us, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER HUMAN. she aint some special snowflake, and this goes out to every girl who thinks they're some type of goddess. what im trying to tell you is stop thinking this woman is superior to you or some sh1t. and please don't tell me you've got that self-defeating mindset of "she's out of my league". for god sake she has periods and has to give birth to children (which is painful af) and she's a woman, she's emotional as hell. ain't you happy you a guy?

if you had any hope of attracting her you're not gonna get her with the mindset of "oh she's so hot and she's way too high up for me". you'll be shot out and you'll just be like the rest of the guys who tried to get her. in this case, you'd be placing more value on her than yourself. it's your life; if you want something go and take it... don't ever get the idea that somebody's superior than you. cuz you're damn well not going to succeed if you think a woman's too high up. you're the most important person in your life; you have the most value. you're attracted to her so go and get her, but dont treat her like she's better than you because she's not.

also, stop worrying about what a woman is doing with other guys. If you are attracted to another woman and you feel you're jealous of her talking to another guy... STOP and think. What is going on between a girl and another man is their business, and is none of your concern unless it's your woman, but she is not your woman and you are simply trying to raise her interest. Until then, you shouldn't be fazed if a woman is talking to another man. Instead of worrying what she's doing with another guy, you should only simply stay focused on what you're doing with her. You can't stop a girl from talking to other men; and a girl definitely cant stop you from seeing other women. Don't be worried about what a girl's doing with other men. Just focus on what you're doing with her. Be detached and think without your emotions.

ONE MORE THING: Don't wait for her to come back. It shouldn't matter whether she comes back or not. It's your life, don't force anybody to be in it and don't wait around for anybody to come and fall back into your life. Just live your life for yourself and be happy; whoever wants to be apart of your life will make the effort to do so. Live life for yourself, don't be worried about some insignificant woman.
 

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OP, you forgot the basic tenet of texting... Never text about anything serious. This is textbook of what happens when we break that rule. Texting with women is playing with fire unless you're highly skilled, especially if you exceed three exchanges in any given session.
 
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