How do I respond to this? Should I even respond?

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About a year ago and a few months before i swallowed the red pill I'd cut off a woman I used to spend time with.

We occasionally worked together and would hang out often. Usually at my place and we'd smoke and watch Netflix. I'd expressed interest in taking it further but she didn't bite. Looking back, it was due to my obvious afc ways. She'd confide in me saying I'm a good guy yet complain about no good men being out there.etc. you know. The usual.

We working together for only a few days last year. Never hung out. I cut all text conversations.
We happen to be working together this week and she sends me a text earlier saying she wants to know exactly why I decided to cut our friendship. Says she wants to know my exact thought process and not the vague answers I've given her in the past.
She says the severance seems drastic to her.

Of note, she a good HB8 and I'd hit if she was open lol.

Jokes aside though. Should I respond to the text or not.
 

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Her motivation: She is curious if she can make you her orbiter again. You were too low a priority to bother with until you were put into her life again through work.
Choice 1: "I didn't have time to waste on being platonic" (will be a stronger text if you can prove upon inquiry or imply that you were or could have been seeing other girls at the time)
Choice 2: Say nothing.
 

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Her motivation: She is curious if she can make you her orbiter again. You were too low a priority to bother with until you were put into her life again through work.
Choice 1: "I didn't have time to waste on being platonic" (will be a stronger text if you can prove upon inquiry or imply that you were or could have been seeing other girls at the time)
Choice 2: Say nothing.
Yeah. I agree. I was definitely not a priority.
 

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Give her another vague answer. Tell her that you were 'busy'. Ask her out again, and if she declines, go back to being 'busy'.

If you're now outcome-independant, give zero f*cks, and just try to get laid. Anything else is not worthy of your time, and this should be reflected in your behaviour. Indifference is key.
Gave her another vague reply and she sends a string of texts about how callus and cold I am for cutting her off. It felt so sudden etc. She's not harbouring any bad feelings towards me but she just had to let me know how she feels.
It's getting annoying now.
 

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Gave her another vague reply and she sends a string of texts about how callus and cold I am for cutting her off. It felt so sudden etc. She's not harbouring any bad feelings towards me but she just had to let me know how she feels.
It's getting annoying now.
She is trying to guilt you and bring you back as a friend. No ty...
 

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I'd expressed interest in taking it further but she didn't bite.
How did you express that?

She'd confide in me saying I'm a good guy yet complain about no good men being out there.
Yeah, good guys are not good men. Good men would have found a way to increase her sexual interest and fvcked her already.

"I didn't have time to waste on being platonic"
^^^ That

"Well, listen, it's getting annoying now. I am sorry you feel like that, I like you a lot but I don't have much time to be platonic. But I am sure you will find another good guy to watch Netflix with. Have a good day and see you around perhaps."

~ All Credits to Espi

Try that, you have nothing to lose.
 

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How did you express that?

We were at my place watching tv once and I approached her to kiss her. She backed away and said no. Months prior to that I'd told her I like her would like to be more than friends she said nope.



Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
I could be wrong but I think she's not attracted to me in the least. Just saw me as an orbiter. I fit that role perfectly in the past. No threatening afc in touch with his feelings etc. I think me switching up on her hurt her ego.
I don't think asking her out would accomplish anything. And we work together occasionally too. I really just want to keep her at a distance without hurting her feelings. ( the beta in me I guess ). I have no interest in the kind of 'friendship' we had.
 

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We were at my place watching tv once and I approached her to kiss her. She backed away and said no. Months prior to that I'd told her I like her would like to be more than friends she said nope.
Sad story.

No point of asking her out at this stage IMO.

I would still go with the sentence I gave you. At least it will show her you have some balls.
Then go NC and let her initiate every single interaction you have. But in the meantime, move on, go find another chick.

+ learn how to escalate before you go for the kiss next time
+ learn to not say things like "I would like to be more than friends" and why you shouldn't
 

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About a year ago and a few months before i swallowed the red pill I'd cut off a woman I used to spend time with.

We occasionally worked together and would hang out often. Usually at my place and we'd smoke and watch Netflix. I'd expressed interest in taking it further but she didn't bite. Looking back, it was due to my obvious afc ways. She'd confide in me saying I'm a good guy yet complain about no good men being out there.etc. you know. The usual.

We working together for only a few days last year. Never hung out. I cut all text conversations.
We happen to be working together this week and she sends me a text earlier saying she wants to know exactly why I decided to cut our friendship. Says she wants to know my exact thought process and not the vague answers I've given her in the past.
She says the severance seems drastic to her.

Of note, she a good HB8 and I'd hit if she was open lol.

Jokes aside though. Should I respond to the text or not.
"I tend to focus my attention on women who have a sexual interest in me. I have enough male friends, I don't need female friends."
 

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About a year ago and a few months before i swallowed the red pill I'd cut off a woman I used to spend time with.

We occasionally worked together and would hang out often. Usually at my place and we'd smoke and watch Netflix. I'd expressed interest in taking it further but she didn't bite.
So the working together,hanging out and spending time together...smoking weed and watching Netflix together.......you did all that BEFORE you expressed interest in taking things farther.....you did all that BEFORE showing sexual interest.

Well this is just a classic case of friendzone. Not showing interest in a girl AS SOON AS you meet her,hanging out and spending time together for weeks not making a move,and most of all listening to her complain about other men like she'd do with her girlfriends,heh............there was no other outcome this could arrive at but this.



She'd confide in me saying I'm a good guy yet complain about no good men being out there.etc. you know. The usual.
Ok.....what were YOU DOING while she was complaining about there not being any good men out there?

You flirt with her? Compliment her? Ask her out? Give any suttle,sexual glances at her body?

Did you do ANYTHING to display sexual interest towards her while she was going off about men,or did you just set there quietly and listen?


Jokes aside though. Should I respond to the text or not.
I don't see what difference it'd make now. If you weren't aware of how to avoid the friendzone,then you DAMN SURE don't have the neccesary skills to get out of it...which really,is so hard it isn't even worth the try.

As far as giving her "vague answers".....what for? She already told you she wasn't interested in anything past friendship,right?

She was straightforward....Not playing games....not giving mixed messages? Ok,soo....then what's the problem here?

Just move on so someone who IS interested....why waste time with a chick who flat out,no-gameplayingly told you no?

What for?
 

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We were at my place watching tv once and I approached her to kiss her. She backed away and said no. Months prior to that I'd told her I like her would like to be more than friends she said nope.



Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
I could be wrong but I think she's not attracted to me in the least. Just saw me as an orbiter. I fit that role perfectly in the past. No threatening afc in touch with his feelings etc. I think me switching up on her hurt her ego.
I don't think asking her out would accomplish anything. And we work together occasionally too. I really just want to keep her at a distance without hurting her feelings. ( the beta in me I guess ). I have no interest in the kind of 'friendship' we had.
Gave her another vague reply and she sends a string of texts about how callus and cold I am for cutting her off. It felt so sudden etc. She's not harbouring any bad feelings towards me but she just had to let me know how she feels.
It's getting annoying now.
Here we can see a perfect illustrating example of how completely self-absorbed a woman can be. She already knows for a fact that he wanted to be more than an orbiter back when they were talking, so what does she do? She tells him how callous he is for not accepting a confirmed role of flunkey. Her regard for him is so below her, she has to let him know how she feels about that. Her perspective is egotistical to the point that she ignores or doesn't even conceive the reason why he would cut off the relationship and demands that he explain himself to her. She is not intently "evil", he is just not a person to her.

This is the reality of how women see men, not just orbiters but the men they marry, the men they "love", the men they have children with, but we collectively still haven't woken up to it.
 
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Here we can see a perfect illustrating example of how completely self-absorbed a woman can be. She already knows for a fact that he wanted to be more than an orbiter back when they were talking, so what does she do? She tells him how callous he is for not accepting a confirmed role of flunkey. Her regard for him is so low, she has to let him know how she feels about that. Her perspective is egotistical to the point that she ignores or doesn't even conceive the reason why he would cut off the relationship and demands that he explain himself to her. The monster within has been unveiled. This is the reality of how women see men.
This is the reality of how men and women do not understand each other.
And this is the reason why we should just stop deciphering every of women's behaviors.

Because if you take a different perspective, he KNEW for a fact that she was NOT interested.
But deep in his beta mind and beta heart he continued to see her with that hidden desire that a great dose of Netflix and Smoke will turn her on and that someday the evening will end with his penis in her vagina.

What we have here is a perfect example of an immature woman interacting with an immature man. And by immature, I mean, mis-educated about the subject of inter-sexual relationships.

That's why there is no love and only poor game when there is no empathy.
Love is a different word when spelled by a woman or a man.

And to end my blurb here, I could say that it's not a woman's job to be mature. Women are crazy histrionic beasts who need strong men to channel their "disorders" (emotions) toward what's Good for them and their kids.

The little problem emerges when we are not educated to do that anymore but to be "equal".
And by "equal" I mean that women can do whatever they want and men should be kind enough to STFU and follow.
 
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