finished the 3% Man on sunday... (Corey Wayne)

[wifehunter]

I have to say, I find myself going back to it, over and over, ever since finishing it! It's entertaining and educational at the same time! His perspective and focus on interest level, is exhaustive! A permanent reference next to the DJ bible!

 

[raider87]

Yeah I've read it once. Good read. It's on his website for free if anyone is interested.
" You need to read the book 10 to 15 times" Corey Wayne

 

[Dynamited]

I like his Youtube vids as well.

No BS and straight to the point when dealing with women.

Saves men time, money and mind-ache

 

[BlueAlpha1]

I like his Youtube vids as well.

No BS and straight to the point when dealing with women.

Saves men time, money and mind-ache

His advice might save men $10 on a meal he shouldn't buy for an uninterested girl, but this mofo charges people about $500 to have a one hour Skype or email session.

I produce similar "self-help" content for men, and I really can't stand these "life coaches" that charge desperate people a billion dollars to have a conversation. Corey Wayne and I have one thing in common - less than 3% of our peers know who the hell we are, so he really should calm down a little with charging people as if they're talking to Jesus.

 

[Konada]

His advice might save men $10 on a meal he shouldn't buy for an uninterested girl, but this mofo charges people about $500 to have a one hour Skype or email session.

I produce similar "self-help" content for men, and I really can't stand these "life coaches" that charge desperate people a billion dollars to have a conversation. Corey Wayne and I have one thing in common - less than 3% of our peers know who the hell we are, so he really should calm down a little with charging people as if they're talking to Jesus.

So what makes you an authority of how much he should charge? I'd like to see you charge $500/hour and see if you get any clients before discrediting a man's effort for putting his work out there.

 

[zekko]

I find Wayne's advice as good as anyone else's, but I can't help but get a slimy, snake oil salesman vibe from the vast majority of these PUA guru types. The main idea of the book, that only 3% of men on the planet can be attractive to women, I find that utterly ridiculous, and just a hook to try to hoodwink you into buying his material. Be one of only three men out of a hundred who understand women, pfft, what nonsense.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I find Wayne's advice as good as anyone else's, but I can't help but get a slimy, snake oil salesman vibe from the vast majority of these PUA guru types. The main idea of the book, that only 3% of men on the planet can be attractive to women, I find that utterly ridiculous, and just a hook to try to hoodwink you into buying his material. Be one of only three men out of a hundred who understand women, pfft, what nonsense.

I believe it's done so you step your game up to be exceptional, or an exceptional version of you.

 

[zekko]

I believe it's done so you step your game up to be exceptional, or an exceptional version of you.

I suppose that's possible, although I've never been a fan of telling someone a lie in order to encourage them to succeed.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I suppose that's possible, although I've never been a fan of telling someone a lie in order to encourage them to succeed.

Sometimes you have to get them to believe first.

 

[Tictac]

I find Wayne's advice as good as anyone else's, but I can't help but get a slimy, snake oil salesman vibe from the vast majority of these PUA guru types. The main idea of the book, that only 3% of men on the planet can be attractive to women, I find that utterly ridiculous, and just a hook to try to hoodwink you into buying his material. Be one of only three men out of a hundred who understand women, pfft, what nonsense.

Not sure I see a 'lie' here. Does Wayne say that only 3% can be attractive to women? If so, I didn't see it.

The message I saw was that by studying and applying fundamentals like those in the book, you would become unlike most men. I've found this accurate in most areas of life.

 

[zekko]

Sometimes you have to get them to believe first.

Maybe, but again that's my whole problem with it. The guru is wanting the guy to buy into an entirely new philosophy, an entirely new belief system. I find it hard to espouse a belief system or philosophy when the main tagline used to sell it is a lie. How can you buy into a new belief system when the first thing they want you to swallow is untrue? I may be more skeptical than the average fellow, but it makes alarm bells go off for me, it makes me suspicious.

 

[Floydispink01]

I find him refreshing to listen too. Straight up no bvll****. Very practical advice. The fact he give's his book away for free is also good of him even though i did buy the hard copy. I wouldn't pay 600 bucks for a phonecall. I've just finished the first read and learnt some new stuff already. I will look to read it 10/15 times as is mentioned.

He does need to change up his blue t-shirt and blazer combo in his video's though.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

So what makes you an authority of how much he should charge? I'd like to see you charge $500/hour and see if you get any clients before discrediting a man's effort for putting his work out there.

Don't you have an opinion on anything in life big boy? I'm not an "authority" on anything. Like zekko said, the guy gives off a major foul-odor, snake oil salesman vibe. Quite obviously I don't believe there's anything wrong with charging for quality work, but charging somebody $500 for Skype sessions when nobody knows who the hell you are is not kosher. Mark Cuban charges $10,000 an hour for financial advice over the phone. Well, it's a lot of money, but a billionaire can do that. Corey Wayne is a random bald dude repeating stuff that's been available for free since "The Game" came out in the late 90's. Rollo Tomassi at Rational Male has been offering a superior product (largely for free.) Then he charges a modest $10 for his paperback, like most honest people. See the difference?

He might get clients because there are men who are SO weak & desperate they'd hand over their entire bank account for some magic formula. Is it wrong? Well morals are relative because we decide for ourselves, but I have to ask have you ever been to a dealer and commented that that 20 year old car wasn't worth $50,000?

 

[parkthebus]

So what makes you an authority of how much he should charge? I'd like to see you charge $500/hour and see if you get any clients before discrediting a man's effort for putting his work out there.

Called an opinion. If you don't like hearing different opinions, then why the **** are you hear?

 

[Atom Smasher]

The only thing I don't like about Wayne is that he's very light on holding women accountable. Other than that, lots of good content.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Don't you have an opinion on anything in life big boy? I'm not an "authority" on anything. Like zekko said, the guy gives off a major foul-odor, snake oil salesman vibe. Quite obviously I don't believe there's anything wrong with charging for quality work, but charging somebody $500 for Skype sessions when nobody knows who the hell you are is not kosher. Mark Cuban charges $10,000 an hour for financial advice over the phone. Well, it's a lot of money, but a billionaire can do that. Corey Wayne is a random bald dude repeating stuff that's been available for free since "The Game" came out in the late 90's. Rollo Tomassi at Rational Male has been offering a superior product (largely for free.) Then he charges a modest $10 for his paperback, like most honest people. See the difference?

He might get clients because there are men who are SO weak & desperate they'd hand over their entire bank account for some magic formula. Is it wrong? Well morals are relative because we decide for ourselves, but I have to ask have you ever been to a dealer and commented that that 20 year old car wasn't worth $50,000?

I believe Corey Wayne's information would be valuable and hearing the spoken word to you may be powerful in your life. Yes I do believe he is able to bill hundreds per hour for this information.

I also don't believe he is a "slick salesman" type. His information is rather cut and dry and direct and it gets results. I like it a lot, and it inspires confidence.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I listen to some of his videos and the and direct and easy to follow, no fluff. I haven't read the book, but if it is for free on his site that is major cool point to me. A man has to make a living especially in this era where prices of everything is going up. I also see the other skeptical perspective from other people which is good, Everything needs a healthy dose of skepticism and inquiry from different perspectives. One quote I think is from Bruce Lee I could be wrong is to adapt to and add your own philosophies to what you learned. Not everybody philosophies will work for everyone, you must add your own and adapt it to your perspective and worldview. You can even make said Philosophy better for yourself and others, you can always add and improve, no one philosophy is the golden cure all rule. With that said anyone of average intelligence can watch his videos learn a lot use it and add to it and expand too it

 

[zekko]

Not sure I see a 'lie' here. Does Wayne say that only 3% can be attractive to women? If so, I didn't see it.

He says that only 3% of men understand women well enough to know how to attract them. That's what the title refers to. Of course, if you read his book, then you can join him in this "3%" - it's a selling point. I think he's just taking the 20/80 rule to extremes.

The other thing that bugs me is his advice to read his book 10-15 times before it will click with you. I mean, damn, that smacks of brainwashing. Just how complex is this stuff really? It's not rocket science. In college, they don't tell you to read the physics book 10-15 times before they test you, they expect you to get it the first time, with some reviewing. No way pickup is more complex than physics. Unless, of course, they are marketing to morons lol.

I'm not trying to bag on Corey Wayne though. Like I said, I think his advice is pretty much as good as any other guru type I've seen. Regarding the personal sessions, that sounds like a money pit, like getting attached to a psychiatrist or something. When I was younger, I remember I used to think I would like to have a "life coach" who would encourage me to do what I needed to do. Even if I knew what I should have been doing (which I didn't), I didn't always have the motivation. So I could see such a thing being valuable, especially for a young guy. Only thing is, I don't know too many young fellows who can throw away that kind of money on pickup lessons.

 

[Reykhel]

He says that only 3% of men understand women well enough to know how to attract them. That's what the title refers to. Of course, if you read his book, then you can join him in this "3%" - it's a selling point. I think he's just taking the 20/80 rule to extremes.

The other thing that bugs me is his advice to read his book 10-15 times before it will click with you. I mean, damn, that smacks of brainwashing. Just how complex is this stuff really? It's not rocket science. In college, they don't tell you to read the physics book 10-15 times before they test you, they expect you to get it the first time, with some reviewing. No way pickup is more complex than physics. Unless, of course, they are marketing to morons lol.

I'm not trying to bag on Corey Wayne though. Like I said, I think his advice is pretty much as good as any other guru type I've seen. Regarding the personal sessions, that sounds like a money pit, like getting attached to a psychiatrist or something. When I was younger, I remember I used to think I would like to have a "life coach" who would encourage me to do what I needed to do. Even if I knew what I should have been doing (which I didn't), I didn't always have the motivation. So I could see such a thing being valuable, especially for a young guy. Only thing is, I don't know too many young fellows who can throw away that kind of money on pickup lessons.

Corey's book is basically Doc Love's The System revamped.......

Granted at least he does mention Doc Love and The System in his book saying it was what had the biggest influence and impact on him.

The title of the book "How to be a 3% man" is directly pulled from The System (dating dictionary)

I quote:

NATURALS (THREE-PERCENTERS)

"Some guys are born with the System." Doc Love

"Naturals never take rejection personally because they look at love as a game. In fact, when they're rejected, they really feel it's her loss" The Reality Factor

Let's take a hundred guys off the street and line them up against a wall. After interviewing each of them for ten minutes, I can tell you that three understand women, seven know a lot about women; and the other 90 - well let's just say that they are the reason why America needs Doc Love's coaching.

In my travels, I've run into about 50 men who truly understand women. These "three percenters - whom I also call naturals - somehow know exactly what to do around women. because of their knowledge, they never had to go throught the pangs of rejection. I am sure there are more out there, but these 50 naturals were kind enough to give me in-depth interviews. I owe them for helping me invent "The System".

End quote.

By the way, some people are saying Corey Wayne's book is free on his website.....I see on his website "click here to get a copy of my book from Amazon 9.99 Kindle version or paper back version 29.99"

I do like some of his videos though. Gets a bit tiresome at the end of every video when he starts going in to his "if you found this video usefull.....donate money" speech.

An observation.....
throughout his book, while the information is solid....I've noticed he has many blue pill traits........for example he talks about splitting up with an ex that he was crazy about.....she was going to work in England.......so they broke up.....but he says he kept her as a friend and still talks to her regularly .....his justification (and advice) was the following "if two people truly love each other and want to be happy with their choice to go seperate ways, I do not think it is the loving thing to do to cut one another off from all communication. I actually think it makes it harder to heel"

Whereas Doc Love would be brutal...."We don't talk to her anymore. Next!" I prefer that approach.

He (CW) also talks about more than one girlfriend who had a kid and how he was the father figure for that kid. He gushes "kids change everything!!!"

Yes, maybe that's true Corey about your own kids, but I ain't stepping in to be a rent-a-daddy for no bastard...

Sound advice (as it's Doc Love's) but he has blue pill tendencies (his own nature)

The System on the other hand....
I was looking through that recently........and I've got to say.....Dov Love is the original
red piller......

....even plate spinning came from the System

 

[Glumix]

The System on the other hand....

Would you actually recommend "The System" over "3% Man" ?