Girl asked for my number - but wont text me back

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Met a girl at a bar. Thought the guy she was with was her boyfriend but it was her gay best friend.

Long story short we talked for a while, maybe close to 1 hour and 30 minutes, told her i just started salsa dancing so she grabbed my arms and we started dancing, i noticed she got pretty close to me.

Later she kept touching my muscles and then kept asking to arm wrestle. She made me arm wrestle other guys which i beat. So basically it seemed she was pretty flirtatious and was impressed with my knowledge of her country. I had a "feeling" she was into me in some way.

She had to go and asked for my number, she wasnt carrying her phone on her or something (cant remember too drunk), so she got my phone and entered her full name and phone number. I told her i would text her now, but she said no text her tomorrow morning, i texted her immediately anyway hahaha. Basically my text was saying who i was and from the bar we met.

I stayed in the bar for another 30 minutes and saw her at the strain stop, her gay friend joked about meeting again, but she seemed to ignore me/not look at me.
On the same train back to the city i met my salsa teacher who is an attractive woman and she is a bit flirty. I could tell this girl who asked for my number was looking at us.

Then i met the girl and her gay friend again at the main city train station, they guy talked to me and the girl went to the bathroom, again seemed like she would not look at me.

Thinking maybe she thought i was dating my salsa teacher i texted her again saying something along the lines that it was a crazy night that i saw her 2 other times outside the bar and also i saw my salsa teacher on the train.

That was Friday night and its Sunday afternoon and i have not got a text back from her.
 
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I forgot to say that before i met her at the bar, on the meet up group chat she replied and liked one of my comments.

Interestingly i joined to do a salsa class thing on meet up and i can see she later signed up to this event as well, but with a different meet up profile - as in she has two meet up profiles. Same name but different photos.

Does this sound a bit odd?Maybe she is a "player"

Anyway i i think the best thing to do is not to text her again? but if i see her at salsa dancing im thinking just saying hi and not bring up the text?

So strange
 

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You will find that what a woman wants, or "says" she wants---often changes and/or fluctuates within brief periods of time. Sometimes you'll meet women who have a emotional or circumstantial interest in you.

Her interests in you can be based on a REAL attraction or it could be based on;

  1. Her need to feel attractive AT THAT MOMENT
  2. Her ANGER at her "current" boyfriend (that she hasn't told you about...)
  3. Her emotional imbalance due to just being DUMPED by some other guy
  4. Her being a "Player"(as you just mentioned)
  5. Or quite possibly---your lack of opportunity to make any kind of real LASTING emotional impact on HER during the initial meeting
However, at this stage, you simply don't have enough Intel to pinpoint which of the above reasons (or perhaps some reason that I haven't listed) is the reason behind this chick going AWOL ("Flaking Out") on you.

Your best strategy at this point should probably be to spend LESS time letting this woman occupy your thought life and spend MORE time finding other, more behaviorally CONSISTENT women to focus your attention on instead.

Also, for more information on the reasons why SOME women never call or text you back---you may want to listen to the show link posted below when you have some spare time on your hands.

Much RESPECT to you, soldier.


http://victoryunlimitedshow.com/general/mission-47-objective-ammunition-for-attraction/


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Don't overthink it. Women do weird ****--the best thing to do is just ignore it. Her emotions, whatever they are, are transient--and there's not a realistic cause/effect between what you did/didn't do and how she's feeling.

I've had good success pinging girls weeks, months, years later (no joke); some of these girls who flaked for whatever reason were really enthusiastic later on and I was able to sleep with some of them. But don't text her again until you're done obsessing over her.
 
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Thanks for the response guys, my problem is i some times over analyze things too much and think maybe its always my fault, when in fact perhaps i did nothing wrong and it is her being weird.

I wont text her again, and if i see her at Salsa dancing i will come up to her to have a friendly chat (if she is not ignoring me like before).

Shame, she seemed pretty cool and was hot. I guess that's modern women today, flakey as well with all the options the have :(
 

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If she asks for your number first, she's not interested. Also, this girl just wanted some attention because her boyfriend was out at a football game.

Women just care about what they feel in the present time and place they meet you, and measure you up to their exes. Also, what does the woman need? Examples:
1. Does she just need attention?
2. Does she need an orbiter because her favorite one got a girlfriend and told her to f**k off?
3. Does she need you for business contacts?4. Does she need a male friend?
5. Does she want sex?
6. Does she need a boyfriend?
7. Does she need a rebound guy?
Maybe you didn't do something wrong...often times you did. You failed make a strong enough emotional impact on her. Otherwise, the ex came back, usually.
 
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dumb question: but how is a girl giving me her number her not being serious about knowing me and dating me?

I can understand if she gave me a fake number, Just curios.

Perhaps me texting her right away was the mistake and i should of the day after as she suggested, who knows
 

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She "made you" arm wrestle other guys?

So you let women you just met control you like a puppet? I think you lost right there...once she saw how easy it was to make you jump through hoops you lost any chance of her thinking you might be a challenge...
 

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Don't stress it. Women can be very fleeting and a lot of things could have changed in between that short period of time. She could have just dumped or gotten dumped by her boyfriend and was just looking for attention or reassurance that someone still finds her attractive. She could be in a relationship then suddenly came to her senses and decided not to cheat. She could already be talking to someone and just decided not to pursue things with you. She could have STDs and not want to give it to you. It could be anything.

Just forget about it and don't overthink it.
 

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She "made you" arm wrestle other guys?

So you let women you just met control you like a puppet? I think you lost right there...once she saw how easy it was to make you jump through hoops you lost any chance of her thinking you might be a challenge...
Yeah, this is a big no-no. You're basically a circus monkey.
 

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because women are nowadays fvcked up in the head.

We live in an Era for women, made for them, and everything flows in their direction.
Because of this they behave poorly. They are like spoiled brats so to speak.

It doesn't even matter if you have sex with them. They can just vanish the next day and you wonder why, or what you did wrong. Nothing, you did nothing wrong (besides the arm wrestling thing). So stop wondering why they stopped contacting you after they gave you their number, or after the first date, or after the fifth date, or after you had sex three times...

She just doesn't give a sh-it about you because every weekend she can meet three other guys like you, without considering all her online orbiters.

It's just stupid. I think that we men meeting a 'quality' girl is just a matter of good luck.
It is like applying for a good job. You have all the required skills etc, but they just offer one position and there are 55 candidates, and the majority of them fulfill the profile just like you, so there is really nothing else you can do besides hoping for the best.
 

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dumb question: but how is a girl giving me her number her not being serious about knowing me and dating me?

I can understand if she gave me a fake number, Just curios.

Perhaps me texting her right away was the mistake and i should of the day after as she suggested, who knows
When women initiate, she generally wants something from you, and that is 99% of the time is NOT sex or dating. The other 1% is if she's a hooker, which means she wants your $$.

Some dumb women psychology. Women won't initiate, like ever, to a man. When she initiates, that means you have lost your frame, she just assumed position of leadership.
It doesn't necessarily a bad thing all the time, but if you want sex, it's always a bad thing. In professional world, for example, you will find more women initiating meetings, contacts, etc. Notice that none of these things would lead to sex. I know in our guys' brains, any contact with a woman triggers the "OMG SEX IS COMING OMG OMG". That's not the same with women.

Your case sounds like she's been leading the relationship throughout your interaction with her at the bar. Talking to a stranger woman for 1 hour 30 minutes at a bar is too long IMO. You should've disengaged and talked to other chicks.
She knows you will be easy.
She knows you will never say no to her crazies. She just managed to convince you to arm-wrestle another man!

See, women intuitively know they are crazy themselves. They won't admit it. So they appreciate a man with some resistance.

You should always be the one to ask for the number.
 

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dumb question: but how is a girl giving me her number her not being serious about knowing me and dating me?

I can understand if she gave me a fake number, Just curios.

Perhaps me texting her right away was the mistake and i should of the day after as she suggested, who knows
You must understand men's and women's role on relationships. Men lead, women follow. When she decided to lead, she has taken your role and if you let her do it, you have lost your manliness.

You must become a masculine man. If she decided to be the masculine woman by asking for your number, then she viewed you as a feminine man. You're just like a puppy in her eyes. A cute man instead of a sexy man.

Forget her and learn from this mistake. Read more DJ Bible materials and this site's tips section.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Don't overthink it. Women do weird ****--the best thing to do is just ignore it. Her emotions, whatever they are, are transient--and there's not a realistic cause/effect between what you did/didn't do and how she's feeling.

I've had good success pinging girls weeks, months, years later (no joke); some of these girls who flaked for whatever reason were really enthusiastic later on and I was able to sleep with some of them. But don't text her again until you're done obsessing over her.
Make a call or text within the first 3 days of getting her number and leave a message. If she does not reply, make another call or text after 7 or 10 days after making the first call/text. If she does not reply after 2 strikes, delete her number. Naa, you don't make calls or send texts after months or years after getting her number, when there was no initial response from her. If you do that, you are a beta chump. 7 to 10 days is the max, and erase her from your memory.

When women initiate, she generally wants something from you, and that is 99% of the time is NOT sex or dating. The other 1% is if she's a hooker, which means she wants your $$.

Some dumb women psychology. Women won't initiate, like ever, to a man. When she initiates, that means you have lost your frame, she just assumed position of leadership.
It doesn't necessarily a bad thing all the time, but if you want sex, it's always a bad thing. In professional world, for example, you will find more women initiating meetings, contacts, etc. Notice that none of these things would lead to sex. I know in our guys' brains, any contact with a woman triggers the "OMG SEX IS COMING OMG OMG". That's not the same with women.

Your case sounds like she's been leading the relationship throughout your interaction with her at the bar. Talking to a stranger woman for 1 hour 30 minutes at a bar is too long IMO. You should've disengaged and talked to other chicks.
She knows you will be easy.
She knows you will never say no to her crazies. She just managed to convince you to arm-wrestle another man!

See, women intuitively know they are crazy themselves. They won't admit it. So they appreciate a man with some resistance.

You should always be the one to ask for the number.
Whoever preaches you all this, when a woman initiates, a man loses his frame? Really? How about if a woman flakes on texts, calls, and dates, does a man retain his frame then?

I would rather appreciate a woman initiating than flaking. Let's say, a man lets a woman initiate, but from thereon he leads, does this man still lose his frame?
 
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Naa, you don't make calls or send texts after months or years after getting her number, when there was no initial response from her. If you do that, you are a beta chump. 7 to 10 days is the max, and erase her from your memory.
A beta chump? Lmao. Having a bunch of 'rules' on how to interact with women to preserve your appearance/self-perception is beta.

I don't 'need' to erase girls from my memory because I don't give a **** about rejection in the first place. Sending a one-off invite text once every so often is based on the assumption that rejection is often circumstantial and circumstances change. Phone game doesn't matter, what matters is what happens when you get them in person.
 

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A beta chump? Lmao. Having a bunch of 'rules' on how to interact with women to preserve your appearance/self-perception is beta.

I don't 'need' to erase girls from my memory because I don't give a **** about rejection in the first place. Sending a one-off invite text once every so often is based on the assumption that rejection is often circumstantial and circumstances change. Phone game doesn't matter, what matters is what happens when you get them in person.
It's not about giving a **** about rejection, it is about your self-worth. If you are not respecting yourself, don't expect others, in general, and girls you are after, in particular, respect you.

Any girl that values herself and is worth pursuing expects the guy, who is after her, also has some value. By contacting a girl months or years later, you are not only beta-orbiting her but also telling her you don't have options (i.e., other girls to pursue) and that you are a person of low value.

No one stops you from doing what you want to do. The girl will be laughing to herself after seeing your call/text months or years later. In addition, I am going to tell you right now what happens when girls see your text/call, 99.999999999999% of the girls will not reply back.

No wonder a lot of girls are so entitled and have inflated egos, nowadays. We men are one of the reasons.
 
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It's not about giving a **** about rejection, it is about your self-worth. If you are not respecting yourself, don't expect others, in general, and girls you are after, in particular, respect you.

Your 'self-worth' and 'self-respect' are dependent on other people--if they don't 'respect' you or 'value' you then you literally have to erase them from your existence to maintain that sense. Weak. Self-respect doesn't demand anything from other people.

Any girl that values herself and is worth pursuing expects the guy, who is after her, also has some value. By contacting a girl months or years later, you are not only beta-orbiting her but also telling her you don't have options (i.e., other girls to pursue) and that you are a person of low value.

Speak for yourself. I have options. You can watch me walk through a grocery store and know I have options. A girl that flakes? She's still an option--what do you think she thinks I've been doing for the past year? LOL. And by showing up once every couple years she's like 'Oh, ****--maybe I was wrong about that guy.'

You assume she flakes because she doesn't 'respect' you or 'value' your time. Get over yourself. She could be nervous, she could be shy, she could be worried you're a player, she might be having a bad hair day. Yeah, she might not be interested--but the difference between you and me is I assume she is. She'll drop down my list of priorities, of course. But I'll bless her with another chance at some point if I like her.


No one stops you from doing what you want to do. The girl will be laughing to herself after seeing your call/text months or years later. In addition, I am going to tell you right now what happens when girls see your text/call, 99.999999999999% of the girls will not reply back.

Speak for yourself. I'm saying in my personal experience, after the initial 'Who is this,' they'll start chasing, clear their schedule, etc. You want to know the girls that'll chase you the hardest? The highest interest of the highest interest? Borderlines. LOL. Have fun.

No wonder a lot of girls are so entitled and have inflated egos, nowadays. We men are one of the reasons.

Girls are hella insecure around guys of greater value. If she's acting entitled and egocentric around you, look in the mirror.[/QUOTE
 

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Whoever preaches you all this, when a woman initiates, a man loses his frame? Really? How about if a woman flakes on texts, calls, and dates, does a man retain his frame then?

I would rather appreciate a woman initiating than flaking. Let's say, a man lets a woman initiate, but from thereon he leads, does this man still lose his frame?
A woman who likes you, but hasn't gotten to know you well, will be very careful in her actions and what she says. Have you read cosmos? "What didn't he call me?" "What should I say?" It's an array of questions and analysis on how to thread the attraction line carefully. Pretty similar discussions here at SS, actually.

Most of these things output to one thing, "what hints can I do to let him know that I like him?" Women are all about hints and subtle communications. That is her default behavior when trying to get your attention and attraction. They don't lead, and would rather pull strings behind the scene.

When a woman initiate and lead like that, she usually has had something in mind, and that something in mind could be anything but sex. If she wants sex, she will throw hints at you because of her anti-slut defense mechanism. She won't be as obvious as directly asking your number! The fact that she did means that she is NOT seeing you as a potential sex partner but a yarn ball.
 
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