Mature Man forum has turned the corner...?

[Slickster]

Hey guys,

Over the past couple of years I was getting kind of worried at what this place was becoming. I was seeing a lot of negativity, infighting, and the overall quality of posting had gone way down.

It really bothered me to see this forum going downhill like that because it really did change my life for the better over the past decade or so.

I don't really frequent the forums as much as I used to but I just wanted to say that I've been reading some great stuff on here lately and it really is inspiring. I don't know if it's just me clicking on the right threads but it's so good to see brothers helping each other out in a positive way again.

The world and the system and women aren't fvcked up. We as men just have to be better than all the things working against us. Rise above gentlemen and live on a plane that looks down at all that sh!t.

Thanks to all the guys who take the time to contribute and share their experiences here. A big thanks to the Moderators as well for keeping this forum on the right path. Here's to a great 2016!

Slick

 

[Desdinova]

I've also noticed that the overall quality of the forum has gone up, specifically since the move to the new software. I've been really enjoying a lot of the threads here.

The world and the system and women aren't fvcked up.

Yes they are. The thing is, we can't really do anything about the specific moment in time we've ended up on this earth, so we need to make the best of what we've been given. We can either lament about how feminism has ruined women and hate all of them, or we can make the best of what today's woman have to offer.

We can either go through our lives hating the current state of the world, or we can adapt the best we can, work towards our own happiness and make it work.

 

[Slickster]

Yes they are. The thing is, we can't really do anything about the specific moment in time we've ended up on this earth, so we need to make the best of what we've been given. We can either lament about how feminism has ruined women and hate all of them, or we can make the best of what today's woman have to offer.

We can either go through our lives hating the current state of the world, or we can adapt the best we can, work towards our own happiness and make it work.

Yep that was point. Don't focus on the negative.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Slick,
Oh So Suave is like a candle,it flickers then dies only to spring to life again...The secret is to not let the heavy hand of any transitrory moderator and his philosophy dominate and crush the emergence of new ideas!

 

[evan12]

It is a balance between the other PUA forums that only focus on hookup and between the blue pill forums that usually does not understand the modern relationships and still think all girls are Cinderella and a flower gift will make her give her life to you.
But also be careful not all women are really that bad , most men are here because they even not good with women or have bad experience with women. some women are just normal human 50 bad /50 good .

 

[zekko]

But also be careful not all women are really that bad , most men are here because they even not good with women or have bad experience with women. some women are just normal human 50 bad /50 good .

It's a mix of things. I agree that the most negative attitudes here toward women come from guys who either don't know how to screen or because they are just not good with women - or because they are just wrapped up in the wrong lifestyle (looking for love in all the wrong places).

But I also agree with Desdinova in that we live in a time when it is very difficult to maintain loyal relationships with women. Part of it is life expectancy is up, and most relationships can't last 50 years without someone getting bored, part of it is the lack of morality in modern life, and of course there's the legal system that rewards women financially for divorcing their partners. Like Des says, the best thing we can do is adapt, and for me that means taking marriage off the table as an option. Doesn't mean I have to become a hedonist or a PUA though - I'm find with LTRs where there are no legal papers to sign.

 

[Tenacity]

The world and the system and women aren't fvcked up. We as men just have to be better than all the things working against us. Rise above gentlemen and live on a plane that looks down at all that sh!t.

I totally understand your point of trying to look above the negativity, but what I try to get a lot of you guys to understand is that the "negativity" is there in part because we ALLOWED it to get there. We can sit up here all day and talk about how fvcked up the country has become in terms of this gynocentric culture, but we as MEN sat back....kept our mouths closed...and said nothing while the far left implemented all of this bullshyt into our schools, government, media, etc.

We also sit back and allow our Government, our Big Businesses, and the Federal Reserve to screw us over every chance they get.

We also sit back and allow the Family Law system to maintain outdated laws based on pre-women's liberation, that do nothing today but screw over men for the most part when a guy's divorce or child custody situation goes sour.

We also sit back and allow the Higher Education industry to charge tuition through the roof, while the quality of education has gone down and the quality of having a degree in general has also gone down, due to being in a marketplace where everybody else has a damn degree.

I'm sorry, I'm tired of being told as a "man", you are supposed to just sit back and TAKE IT up the rear, and just find a way to "rise above the non-sense". Fvck that. How about we FIGHT BACK against the non-sense being implemented?

It's why in the US, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are doing so well against established candidates such as Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. It's because we are TIRED of being told by the establishment that life is just whatever it is, and we just need to pray to some God in the sky to give us the grace and power to live through it. Fvck that. Trump and Sanders, while totally different in terms of being conservative and liberal, are doing so well because the key component of their message is "FVCK THAT, we aren't going to sit here and TAKE IT UP THE REAR no more!"

 

[NSX-R]

I saw that other post of how Japan has turned with most of the men there been pussified and it seems the rest of the civilised world turns out slowly the same. It's a normal procedure to be done.

I'm glad that there are people that fight back in their own way and I'm glad that I'm also part of this community.

Just don't give up on the DJ way of life and you shall be rewarded for the rest of your life.

 

[the_stig]

I think the reality is that there is a huge disparity in the dating market right now. Anger and frustration by men is spilling out on many forums, not just here. 2015 was a record low for me and many others. Most guys would agree dating has been getting more difficult with each passing day. Thanks to social media and apps like tinder, women are becoming almost unobtainable for the average guy. I'm not even being negative, just my experience.

 

[evan12]

I think the reality is that there is a huge disparity in the dating market right now. Anger and frustration by men is spilling out on many forums, not just here. 2015 was a record low for me and many others. Most guys would agree dating has been getting more difficult with each passing day. Thanks to social media and apps like tinder, women are becoming almost unobtainable for the average guy. I'm not even being negative, just my experience.

What really strange only man-sphere forums talk about shortage in dating, I opened this subject with men outside of man-sphere and they usually disagree and just say if you are good guy with good job you should be able to get a date.

 

[Tenacity]

I think the reality is that there is a huge disparity in the dating market right now. Anger and frustration by men is spilling out on many forums, not just here. 2015 was a record low for me and many others. Most guys would agree dating has been getting more difficult with each passing day. Thanks to social media and apps like tinder, women are becoming almost unobtainable for the average guy. I'm not even being negative, just my experience.

For me, it hasn't been GETTING women that's been the problem, the problem is that every chick you get has some sort of MAJOR damn problem with her.

In my other thread, guys like taiyuu says to just filter these chicks out upfront, but the question reminds....if I filter all of these chicks out, then who in the HELL am I supposed to sleep with? When every damn chick you get has a major problem, all you are going to be doing is NEXTing everybody and going home, sleeping with your "hand" for a long time until some "quality" chick comes along, who might NEVER come along.

The reality is, we can sit up here all day and talk all of that "be a man" non-sense about taking life into your own hands, the market has changed, the market is fvcked up, and we sat back and ALLOWED it to get fvcked up.

You know something is wrong when fat chicks who are a damn 3 or 4 on any day, have a bigger EGO than the solid 7 and 8s.

 

[glass half full]

For me, it hasn't been GETTING women that's been the problem, the problem is that every chick you get has some sort of MAJOR damn problem with her.

In my other thread, guys like taiyuu says to just filter these chicks out upfront, but the question reminds....if I filter all of these chicks out, then who in the HELL am I supposed to sleep with? When every damn chick you get has a major problem, all you are going to be doing is NEXTing everybody and going home, sleeping with your "hand" for a long time until some "quality" chick comes along, who might NEVER come along.

The reality is, we can sit up here all day and talk all of that "be a man" non-sense about taking life into your own hands, the market has changed, the market is fvcked up, and we sat back and ALLOWED it to get fvcked up.

You know something is wrong when fat chicks who are a damn 3 or 4 on any day, have a bigger EGO than the solid 7 and 8s.

That is no sh!t...As I look back through life, the chicks i've had, and my friends have had, were the ones who are ****Ed up. To this day. I have a friend now who is dating a 4 on a d@mn good day. And she treats him like a Gdamn dog. I'd kick her right square in the azz, and she knows it.
I'm enjoying my MGTOW time, building a project car I've wanted all my life. Sometimes I think about going to the cat house, but I'm a bit scared...I see the ones I work with and there's a small number I would even bother with if they were available. (of course they aren't...). Many are just plain twits. I can't imagine having to live with many of these slugs with attitudes, I'd be stoned 24/7!!
I think LiveFree has the answer, go overseas. Been looking heavily into that. My folks won't like it, but I'm to the point it's just too dam bad.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Sorry guys but I love life. I like women even though I am a divorcee. A confident man can still get laid, and choose who he sleeps with. There are still women who like strong men and there always will be. People are getting sick of femprop. If men are turning into androgomen, great. It makes me look and feel better about myself. Game still works. If you let women decide your value dont complain when they give you a value lower than theirs.

I have never been more proud to be a man. Look around you. Almost everything you see was designed and built by men. Look back across the sea of time. EVERY society was built on the blood and sweat of men. WE are the bones, muscle, heart and vision of our society. Our society exists because 1000's of MEN died to preserve it, and still do.

Is it easy being a man today? No, it is hard work. So what.
Overcoming hardship is what men do.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I've come to believe that there may be an actual A.I. or bot making and responding to posts.

 

[logicallefty]

Good women are out there, but they are the exception, not the norm. Adopt this mindset and you will be both objective and cautious re women.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

I've come to believe that there may be an actual A.I. or bot making and responding to posts.

It isnt me. If there is. I wish it would ask better questions than "a girl looked at me today Now what?" or "a girl ignored my 43 text messages. Should I text her again?" or "my girlfriend is a screaming psycho who ****s other guys. Should I next her?" Come on already. Get a littlle knowledge before posting.

 

[zekko]

What really strange only man-sphere forums talk about shortage in dating, I opened this subject with men outside of man-sphere and they usually disagree and just say if you are good guy with good job you should be able to get a date.

I don't think it's necessarily tied to jobs, but I tend to agree with that. Where I live, the only guys who can't get dates are the guys who are at the bottom of the barrel, whether it's because of physical appearance, social awkwardness, or whatever. I've known guys who don't work but manage to keep some ladies interested. Aside from that, I might point out that guys here don't want to just get a date, they want to have a harem of at least five plates lol. And preferably that group will contain a model or HB9 just for bragging rights.

I read Tenacity's posts, and how he always talks about how he can't find one decent girl. I don't know what to think about it other than maybe he lives in a very bad area geographically. I mean, I know most women are garbage, but you can find some nice ones here and there. I still wouldn't turn control of my life over to them though, because you don't know what she'll be like in 30 years.

Besides which, a man shouldn't hand control of his life over to a female anyway. And unfortunately, if you get married in this day and age that is exactly what you are doing.

 

[Colossus]

Little late to this thread, but I agree the thread quality and general tone has improved around here.

Over a year ago I "retired" as a mod and left the boards for about a year. I started poking back in just out of curiosity and have stuck around just because I like the topics being put out there. I owe a lot to this place for the man I've become and I think honest, insightful feedback from experienced men is what made this place great in the first place.

A forum is only as good as the people posting on it.

 

[Dingo]

I enjoy reading stuff the really experienced mature post up...

Life hasn't even begun to **** with you young guns yet...

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

I enjoy reading stuff the really experienced mature post up...

Life hasn't even begun to **** with you young guns yet...

I am pretty sure I am not a young gun anymore, but that life has ****ed with me.