I hate how women are so boring and stuck-up just because they can be

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If enough men grew a spine and acted like real men, and quit being so desperate for poon, and thus quit allowing women to behave this way, women' attitudes would change I guarantee it. It's all about pu$$y. Pu$$y is their currency. What happens when a currency no longer has value? It don't get you any resources.... The value of pu$$y currency must go down. Until it does, women will never behave properly.
 

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Because men let them get away with it.
 

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Both the guys before me got it, but until then we can't do squat to remedy it except to live by your own rules. This involves nexting women, dumping for behaviors you dislike, etc. until you finally find quality women.

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places. I've found several quality women and been with them already and I'm still in high school. As in, I actually enjoyed them as people instead of just pvssy. That's ultimately the type of woman we're all seeking.
Its easier these days to find those women in high school I think. Women in high school are much more nieve and view things as a level playing field, they are less likely to be ****ed over, come across guys with good game or become hypergamous. As they get older they figure out they have the power, get experienced with getting put on a pedastle and generally just realize Beta's are abundant and they have the abundance mentality. In high school their pond is much smaller, they are much more likely to view things as a level playing field and are just overall less hip to the game, the more chances they have for interactions where they are just being praised and chased 24/7 the more likely they are to degrade to the level where they aren't putting in effort and view things as equal. Most high school girls are in their dating infancy as well, are more likely to not be comfortable with their image and overall are just more insecure, they haven't been offered the world or propped up yet and are more likely to be what we'd consider quality women, as time goes on they are generally less and less imo.
 

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Both the guys before me got it, but until then we can't do squat to remedy it except to live by your own rules. This involves nexting women, dumping for behaviors you dislike, etc. until you finally find quality women.

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places. I've found several quality women and been with them already and I'm still in high school. As in, I actually enjoyed them as people instead of just pvssy. That's ultimately the type of woman we're all seeking.
This.Treat it like searching in sand for gold.Don't complain, golddigging is hard work but reward will be high.
 

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It's a bell curve, boring personality and attitude is at it's peak between the ages of 17 to 35.
Post 35, as their value decreases attitude and personality get's better in my experience.
 

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It's a bell curve, boring personality and attitude is at it's peak between the ages of 17 to 35.
Post 35, as their value decreases attitude and personality get's better in my experience.
Agree with the bell curve thing, but I think the bad behavior lasts until more like early 40s sometimes to middle 40s. Imo the absolute worst women on the planet are between about 33 and 41 Relatively better both before and after that but far from where they should be
 

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I think part of the problem are leftovers from a blue pill egalitarian mindset--we all want women to be men LOL. We want to be able to converse with them like men--to have their own interest and purpose like men, to have interests outside of themselves...like men. We want them to understand us in the way that only our male friends will ever be able to. We want them to be loyal and honorable like men.

The product won't ever live up to your expectations--because your expectations aren't realistic or sustainable. Don't get me wrong--the product is worse than it's ever been. But if you have an awesome life, a set purpose, good friends, and love yourself and are self-interested and self-motivated, then what exactly does a woman need to bring to the table? Do you need her to entertain you? Do you need her to give you good convo? No, not really. All she has to do is be pleasant and not get in your way. Have a good time for yourself and if she can do those 2 things then she'll be fun to be around.

But don't take her seriously. Don't give her credit for your enjoyment of life and your happiness. Enjoy it while she's on board. If she gets off....your life is still awesome right? Another woman can easily fill that role.

That said--pleasant, submissive, attractive women are still pretty rare. But most women will fill that role if that's the only role for her to fill in your life. Even the most entitled, grating wh0re can be a 'quality' girl for the right guy--not that I'd recommend believing you'll be that guy. Find the best raw material and don't expect too much.
 

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Sure.... When women get to preteen and early teen they are still reasonably innocent, for the most part. But once guys start giving them attention they quickly realize that they have an asset in their pants that they can get things with. Some give it, and others just use it for attention. As they get in their late teens and early 20s many of them struggle with doing what the fairy tales/society say they should do, get married have a family etc. VS., what they want to do which is go out and get all that c0ck that's available to them. Now in early-mid 20s they get into relationships and think they may need to settle down, but in the back of their mind it's not what they really want to do, but it's what they think that have to do. Many submit to society and get married to some beta provider by their mid 20s. They pretend to be happy with the beta, but they're really not, their inner wh0re is always biting at them. Thus, towards their late 20s and early 30s they cheat on the beta, and/or, just leave him and blame everything on him that is wrong within them. They may go thru several men in this way by early-mid 30s. By this time, about age 33, they are now sitting as a single mommy and getting some child support from the beta for 1, 2, or a few kids. Possibly from more than one daddy. But now they have seen enough of life to realize that life isn't all fun and games, life is not a fairy tale. And they also realize that they may actually have to do some real work in the world if they want they and their kids to survive. So now they become bitter b|tches. They live as a single mommy pretending that they are conquering the world and can do it all on their own.. But they are also out getting c0ck as much as possible and hoping that they might land yet another man who is willing to provide for them, and now for their their kids too. But they also are out to prove to the world that no man is going to run their lives and have authority over them because they are strong and independent women!! So any man that they date to try to get resources from they also treat him like crap. Most men still let them. Those that stand up to them end up getting into domestic disputes and accused of abuse. The woman will probably go through several more relationships like or similar to this in her 30s. By the age of 39 or so reality hits them once again. But now they are desperate for a man to take care of them, more than ever.. So by early to mid 40s they start being a *little* bit easier to get along with. Still not great but better than they were in their 30s. By probably mid to late 40s they might get into another relationship with a man and maybe settle down for a while. Or they might just face the fact that they're going to be single the rest of their lives and actually have to start doing some real work to survive . The child-support has now ran out because the children are 18, so they have lost that income, and thus and that's another factor into finding another man to provide.

Edit: I changed a few small things sense original post (which was done from my phone).
 
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Think back to your days as a kid on the playground and a girl was acting stuck up to you.

How would you respond? Easy. You wouldn't give a fvck. You would be too busy having fun with your friends and playing with your toys. The principles still apply in adulthood.

The girl would have no power over you.
 

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Don't be fooled. Women always had all the power thanks to their pvssy. The problem is today's men.

We are supposed to be the law.

But we are not taught to be that anymore.

That is the real problem. No need to talk about women. Let's talk about men.

Women, by their behaviors, only force us to become men. And that's a good thing.

But how can we change the current education system and society so we don't need to learn it the hard way by ourselves ?

That's the real question I think.
 

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Because men are conditioned to always tolerate a woman's BS.

I saw a social media post the other day that said "when she stops b*tching, she ain't your b*tch no more".

Society is constantly trying to force men to submit to women and tolerate their worst behaviors even though they would never take that same behavior from another man.

You have idiotic women going around quoting that Monroe woman about how if a man can't handle her on her worst day, you don't deserve her on her best day.

On the reverse side, women are being taught to never take a single sh*t from any man. If he so much as doesn't meet one frivolous requirement, to dump him or next him right away.

From a young age, the first instructions a lot of boys are given is " ladies first, never hit a girl, give up your seat for a girl, pull out chairs for girls, open the doors for girls".

Everything you do must be for a girl. Women grow up knowing this and they are fully aware that they can hit you without repercussion or take advantage of you because of some "male honor code".
 

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Both the guys before me got it, but until then we can't do squat to remedy it except to live by your own rules. This involves nexting women, dumping for behaviors you dislike, etc. until you finally find quality women.
Bro what is a 'quality' woman? Can you define it? Is it a woman who doesn't cheat on you? Who doesn't put you down? Take your money? Give you sex? I think sometimes we confuse 'quality' with 'normal'.

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places. I've found several quality women and been with them already and I'm still in high school. As in, I actually enjoyed them as people instead of just pvssy. That's ultimately the type of woman we're all seeking.
Again bro what is 'quality'? These girls you are meeting high school don't have enough life experience, they don't understand how they will be taught to extract resources from men in exchange for nothing.

Women are good for sex and babies. You lean on them for any thinking more than that they will absolutely DESTROY you.
 

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You have idiotic women going around quoting that Monroe woman about how if a man can't handle her on her worst day, you don't deserve her on her best day
I hate that quote! Another thing I can't believe is these average, 6/10, butter face, plain broads getting 400+ likes for a selfie.
 
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