When do you call out a woman on her bs?

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How do you discipline a woman by not seeming needy? It seems like for every violation its just move on...is this the only way? How do you handle disrespect without looking needy or not walking away? Give an example of disrespect and what you did.
 

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Calmly bring up what you didn't like(best to do it while it's happening) and say something like "I don't like xxxx. I find it to be disrespectful and it's not something I tolerate from people I spend time with."

She will likely try to justify or apologize for her behavior, then as long as it's the first time, just be like "Ok, I just wanted to let you know." Message is sent, if she values being with you she won't do it again.
 

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I think it's better when you don't say anything, at every time but save each one of the faults at the back of your head. After a while use these as your weapons, she won't be able to say anything in return.
 

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Calmly bring up what you didn't like(best to do it while it's happening) and say something like "I don't like xxxx. I find it to be disrespectful and it's not something I tolerate from people I spend time with."

She will likely try to justify or apologize for her behavior, then as long as it's the first time, just be like "Ok, I just wanted to let you know." Message is sent, if she values being with you she won't do it again.
I have spanked women before...my ex was rattling on about some old bf. I told her that I didn't want to hear it. She stopped and started up again. I spanked her ass and never got an old bf story again.
 

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Heheh she probably just likes being spanked ;-) Hey Marmel, what was the situation? When you are training dogs you have to deliver the punishment immediately.

So if the bad behaviour happens out on a date if u do call them out straight away, obvious problem with that is that you're probably going to have to call the date short or put up with looking at a woman all night who is ****ty. So how did u handle the fall out?
 
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If you are actually in a relationship with a woman and she does something you don't like calmly tell her you don't like it and won't tolerate it. If she keeps it up just walk away.

If you are only dating a woman... just walk away. You don't have anything invested and there are other women.... why waste your time with stupidity.
 

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If you are actually in a relationship with a woman and she does something you don't like calmly tell her you don't like it and won't tolerate it. If she keeps it up just walk away.

If you are only dating a woman... just walk away. You don't have anything invested and there are other women.... why waste your time with stupidity.
This ^^^^^

I have no idea how things get to a point when you have to 'call a woman out'. If they're doing something 'off', tell then then and there.
 

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Heheh she probably just likes being spanked ;-) Hey Marmel, what was the situation? When you are training dogs you have to deliver the punishment immediately.

So if the bad behaviour happens out on a date if u do call them out straight away, obvious problem with that is that you're probably going to have to call the date short or put up with looking at a woman all night who is ****ty. So how did u handle the fall out?
A few times chicks were late 15-20+ minutes, or constantly checking their phone, or said something disrespectful to me.

I always checked that kind of stuff immediately.

For late: "I almost left. I understand a few minuets here and there but its pretty disrespectful to have someone waiting for that long. I don't expect this to happen anymore. Are we clear?"

Then I made her pay for the drinks.

Checking the phone: "Hey, I don't want to hold you up from what's really important to you right now. I'll be more than happy to take off so you can carry on that urgent texting you have going on."

-They apologize and tell me what is happening, blah blah blah.

"Oh, OK. Well I find it to be kind of rude to be doing that in front of someone on a date."

-they apologized---if they did it again I simply got up and walked. That only happened once out of about 3 or 4 times I had to do that.

Something disrespectful:

"I'm not sure the type of men you are used to being around, but I'm just going to let you understand right now that I don't tolerate women who talk to me in a disrespectful manner like you just did. Have I made myself clear?"

-They usually looked shocked, then apologized and were "extra" nice to me the rest of the date...3 of the 4 times I did this it ended in sex.

Your tone and expression are key in delivering this. You have to do it in a calm manner, almost like you are scolding a child. Don't be all upset and obviously agitated or pissed from the look on your face. Then they know you are able to be emotionally manipulated by them, and it becomes fun to push your buttons. You have to do it with an air of authority in a calm and controlled manner like you are talking with a 5 year old.
 
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"Do not let anyone treat you badly. No one. Ever." ---Dr. Glover, in No More Mr. Nice Guy.

A simple quote but one that has stuck with me.

I'm the "new guy" at a bar/club I started working at. A couple weeks ago as I came in for a shift, one of the waitresses turned around and yelled, "Hey you - go get my beer tub ready right now" in a demanding/b*tchy voice. Having her yelling that in front of a hand full of employees, I immediately snapped back with "Start over." She replied with a confused, "huh?" Then I said, "Don't you ever talk to me like that again." I wasn't hateful, but simply stern and confident. The other waitresses in the room looked me shocked and impressed.

I have no romantic interest in this woman mainly because she's a b*tch, but I would've answered back that way if it was my girlfriend, wife, or mother. Doesn't matter.

When I immediately feel like I'm being disrespected - I make it known that I will NOT tolerate it. Either they apologize/change or they are dead to me.

Hope this helps in some way.
 

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I think it's better when you don't say anything, at every time but save each one of the faults at the back of your head. After a while use these as your weapons, she won't be able to say anything in return.
Baloney...they will come up with every excuse they can think of. My ex wife is a master at this. Nothing was ever her fault. She also found it easier to lie than tell the truth.
 

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Nowadays, girls have such a disillusioned view of the world, they dont even realize they are pretty much lacking respect in pretty much every single of their interactions with men.
 

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"Do not let anyone treat you badly. No one. Ever." ---Dr. Glover, in No More Mr. Nice Guy.

A simple quote but one that has stuck with me.

I'm the "new guy" at a bar/club I started working at. A couple weeks ago as I came in for a shift, one of the waitresses turned around and yelled, "Hey you - go get my beer tub ready right now" in a demanding/b*tchy voice. Having her yelling that in front of a hand full of employees, I immediately snapped back with "Start over." She replied with a confused, "huh?" Then I said, "Don't you ever talk to me like that again." I wasn't hateful, but simply stern and confident. The other waitresses in the room looked me shocked and impressed.

I have no romantic interest in this woman mainly because she's a b*tch, but I would've answered back that way if it was my girlfriend, wife, or mother. Doesn't matter.

When I immediately feel like I'm being disrespected - I make it known that I will NOT tolerate it. Either they apologize/change or they are dead to me.

Hope this helps in some way.
I'd be interested if you could post any updates on the woman you called out. It will be valuable on the forum to see her reaction,treatment and attitude toward you in a week or so. Thanks.
 

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You obviously have to react to disrespect for your own self respect but it depends on if they are aware or not. If they don't know, then you tell them about it or if its too major walk away. Once you tell them, if they don't change then you walk away. If they do genuinely respect you they usually change as long as you are reasonable.

If its intentional, like in the bar job anectode above, its a **** test or shes just communicating that she believes you're low value and don't deserve her respect. At this point if you communicate that you won't except the behaviour it will only gain you more respect.
 

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"The strongest negotiating position in any human interaction is to be able to walk away and mean it."

I'm really working on maintaining emotional self-control, so I make sure it seems like nothing bothers me. I'll casually comment on something I don't like if it is outrageous, but generally they can tell by my facial expression that something they did is ****ed up. Then I walk. If they care, they try to talk about it later.
 

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Its pretty easy. You just tell her to stop the behavior. Such as "Never do that again" or "This is unacceptable".

If she does it again, remind her that you told her not to and ask her for an explanation. If she responds by acting like a b!tch, you then have two choices: Either demote her to a booty call you only deal with for sex or end the relationship all together. I usually like to demote women, because it usually reverses their behavior. However, a demotion is still permanent. Once I demote a woman she stays demoted until the relationship ends. She cannot reverse it because I have already seen her true toxic colors.

Remember that a woman who doesn't submit is useless. For you to have a good relationship with a woman she MUST submit. So if you find she refuses to submit, moving on is the best choice for your mental and emotional health. Pathetic faggots who cannot walk away lose the respect of their women and get treated even worse. As they should.
 

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Op,


Here is a list of offenses and punishments between my wife and I:

raised her voice to me - warning

Refused sex due to not horny - 5 min cold shower, spanking with belt followed by sex

Almost made me late for work due to procrastination making breakfast - warning

Didn't support my decision in public - firm slap across the face, spanking, apology

Texting while I'm talking - spanking, apology

Telling me no when my decision doesn't hurt her or degrade her - spanking until she cries

Rolling eyes - firm slap in the face


She appears to be very much in love still and hasn't crossed any boundaries in a few weeks.
 

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Op,


Here is a list of offenses and punishments between my wife and I:

raised her voice to me - warning

Refused sex due to not horny - 5 min cold shower, spanking with belt followed by sex

Almost made me late for work due to procrastination making breakfast - warning

Didn't support my decision in public - firm slap across the face, spanking, apology

Texting while I'm talking - spanking, apology

Telling me no when my decision doesn't hurt her or degrade her - spanking until she cries

Rolling eyes - firm slap in the face


She appears to be very much in love still and hasn't crossed any boundaries in a few weeks.
Seems like you have it under control.
 

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Op,


Here is a list of offenses and punishments between my wife and I:

raised her voice to me - warning

Refused sex due to not horny - 5 min cold shower, spanking with belt followed by sex

Almost made me late for work due to procrastination making breakfast - warning

Didn't support my decision in public - firm slap across the face, spanking, apology

Texting while I'm talking - spanking, apology

Telling me no when my decision doesn't hurt her or degrade her - spanking until she cries

Rolling eyes - firm slap in the face


She appears to be very much in love still and hasn't crossed any boundaries in a few weeks.
easy there mate, you could get in legal trouble in the future If things go bad. You have to be more careful about what you post in the internet.
 

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Op,


Here is a list of offenses and punishments between my wife and I:

raised her voice to me - warning

Refused sex due to not horny - 5 min cold shower, spanking with belt followed by sex

Almost made me late for work due to procrastination making breakfast - warning

Didn't support my decision in public - firm slap across the face, spanking, apology

Texting while I'm talking - spanking, apology

Telling me no when my decision doesn't hurt her or degrade her - spanking until she cries

Rolling eyes - firm slap in the face


She appears to be very much in love still and hasn't crossed any boundaries in a few weeks.
Some of these punishments seem a bit extreme. You say a few weeks. How often do she commit infractions?
 
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