1st date... He bought her a present!!!

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Overheard a guy talking to his date... He bought her a present on the first date! Betas are entertaining!!! Tried so hard not to laugh out loud!!!
 

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I remember a small group of 10 people i saw a couple of weeks ago. They went up to go and it was that guy with a chick. This guy was a true white knight. He went to pick her coat and he wore it to her , after he went to pick her bag which he carried all the way and in the end he opened the door for her .
I was laughing but still i was feeling bad for this poor guy that he has to learn the hard way.
I can say I could turned up to be the same as him if it weren't for this place here.
 

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I was laughing but still i was feeling bad for this poor guy that he has to learn the hard way.
I can say I could turned up to be the same as him if it weren't for this place here.
Yes, took me a few heartbreaks, to finally snap and realise there has to be a better way!!!
 

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Don't be so quick to judge.

I always pay, I get her coat for her, I hold doors. A gentleman is not synonymous with a beta. Alpha vs. beta is about frame, not manners.

I wouldn't agree with buying her presents at all, but you can be kind to women as long as you remain in control and things are done to your demands.
 

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Don't be so quick to judge.

I always pay, I get her coat for her, I hold doors. A gentleman is not synonymous with a beta. Alpha vs. beta is about frame, not manners.

I wouldn't agree with buying her presents at all, but you can be kind to women as long as you remain in control and things are done to your demands.
I agree. Its all about putting yourself and your principles above everyone else. You are the king. Act like one. You make the rules. You are next to no-one. Believe in it.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Don't be so quick to judge.

I always pay, I get her coat for her, I hold doors. A gentleman is not synonymous with a beta. Alpha vs. beta is about frame, not manners.

I wouldn't agree with buying her presents at all, but you can be kind to women as long as you remain in control and things are done to your demands.
I consider myself to be a gentleman.
If I wanted to help the other female to wear her coat I would do it because I wanted to. The guy I mentioned did it in a way to get the approval of the female like " I'm a good boy" . That's not a gentleman way.

And not all situations require a gentleman behavior.
 

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What could a woman possibly have done, on your first date, before you have spent ANY TIME with her - to deserve a gift??

FFS, c'mon guys.
Considering flakes is an increasing trend in our times,giving a chick some gift for actually coming into the date,i think it's something she deserves . lol
 

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Don't be so quick to judge.

I always pay, I get her coat for her, I hold doors. A gentleman is not synonymous with a beta. Alpha vs. beta is about frame, not manners.

I wouldn't agree with buying her presents at all, but you can be kind to women as long as you remain in control and things are done to your demands.
True but the chances that this guy has an "alpha" frame are low. I guess we would need to hear more about how he handles her down the line.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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Obviously I agree buying her a present on a first date would be a bad idea. But maybe if they've known each other a long time - Like maybe if they have both been involved with other people and are finally getting a chance to try hooking up, then maybe in a case like that I could see it. Not something I would do, but I could see it.
 

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Don't be so quick to judge.
I always pay, I get her coat for her, I hold doors. A gentleman is not synonymous with a beta. Alpha vs. beta is about frame, not manners.
I wouldn't agree with buying her presents at all, but you can be kind to women as long as you remain in control and things are done to your demands.
There's a very fine line between being a gentleman and being a tool. But I will say this.

Always paying and fetching her coat like a servant is a good way to get taken advantage of.
 

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There's a very fine line between being a gentleman and being a tool. But I will say this.

Always paying and fetching her coat like a servant is a good way to get taken advantage of.
My date offered to pay for snacks at movie last night. I let her. She told me get anything I wanted since I paid for tickets. Wild sex after movie. I think I will keep her.
 

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Always paying and fetching her coat like a servant is a good way to get taken advantage of.
Not if you are in control. Men lead. Getting her coat is simply a kind gesture. Some men are just raised to act a certain way. As long as the frame remains the consistent and you treat all women the same way, it doesn't make a difference.

I always pay when I invite a woman out. If she isn't acting right, I simply don't invite her out. She either gets an invite to my place or radio silence.
 

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For my 18th birthday I ended up with a girl ( hot make-out session) I’ve been crushing on for months

We started a relationship that night and I was super excited to see her next week. The beta I was made her a super complex origami rose and bought her a chocolate. Its understantment to say that she ignored me on that date.

Tomorrow day she dumped me over her friend, reason being "im not mature enough" ( she was 17)
Soon I found out she was already dating a 28-year-old guy. That went on for half a year until her parents found out and the police got involved, lol

I never did that mystake again. Give gifts only because you want to, never make it about her.
 

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As long as the frame remains the consistent and you treat all women the same way, it doesn't make a difference.

I always pay when I invite a woman out. If she isn't acting right, I simply don't invite her out. She either gets an invite to my place or radio silence.
And if she doesn't act right after you've invite her out? You still pay and fetch items for her?

Let's see. Rewarding bad behavior, check. Unreciprocated generosity, check. This is quenching the appetite of the entitled western woman. Fantastic.
 

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Overheard a guy talking to his date... He bought her a present on the first date! Betas are entertaining!!! Tried so hard not to laugh out loud!!!
Lol, betas are laughable. Obviously you know not to be a beta and what behaviors to avoid, but do you know what behaviors to actually employ in order to help her fall in love with you and stay in love? It's so easy, man, you honestly won't even have to lift a finger. A few friends of mine and myself are discussing this very phenomenon and would appreciate a unique perspective such as yours on how to keep your woman in love and if our current theory could use a bit of tweaking. Feel free to share your thoughts with us. We will listen!


Read my thread:


"All it takes is two things to make her love you forever"
 
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