Passed on sex becuz girl was a feminist.

[Pandora]

I have been seeing this plate. This girl is a 6.5/10. She is decent looking. She is pushing for exclusivity and i have been avoiding it. We get into a debate tonight and i totally destroyed her lame feminist talking points. She didnt even have a coherent argument she kept just saying that i was being disrespectful. Apparently it was disrespectful to say that a women's main value is her nurturing/motherly capability and her sexuality. I told her that if a husband can afford it, then a woman should forgo her career aspirations and take care of the children. At most she can have a part time job but that the children should come first.

I also educated her on the history of third wave feminism. She was totally clueless on the very ideology that she was dogmatically supporting.

She told me that i am arrogant and that i am not getting laid tonight because of my viewpoints unless i apologize. I told her that i am not going to back pedal on my viewpoints just for sex ( I SECRETLY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX THOUGH). I told her i am sorry but i am not sorry. I kissed her on the forehead and then drove off.

I very depressed now. I am depressed because of how unintelligent people can be. How can people be so animal like and not think. Even after i present cogent logical arguments she still could not acknowledge that i might have a point. If a person can not think critically, then they are not a human in my eyes. How can i live in a Nation where most people are non thinkers. Its very sad. The only places where thinking lives is on the internet in forums like this or in a few of my male friends. It really makes me dislike humanity. I try to give liberal women a chance. I really do. But this always happens. Maybe i need a girl from a conservative state.

 

[HeadLightsOn]

Hey OP - do NOT feel bad. This woman used sex as a weapon. Thats emotional abuse. No, I dont go for all the current PC sh1t. But that is in effect what she did to you.

So you called her on it. If you do get to talk to her again, Id explain that you dont believe in emotional abuse by her witholding sex because you simply had a discussion and you aired your views. fairly and reasonably.

You did the right thing. Ill be honest though, I DO stay away - when I can - from these 'types' of women. Its always a battle.

Theyre not all like this (depending on what part of the world you live in). The most difficult women Ive dated have been in USA.

 

[Pandora]

Hey OP - do NOT feel bad. This woman used sex as a weapon. Thats emotional abuse. No, I dont go for all the current PC sh1t. But that is in effect what she did to you.

So you called her on it. If you do get to talk to her again, Id explain that you dont believe in emotional abuse by her witholding sex because you simply had a discussion and you aired your views. fairly and reasonably.

You did the right thing. Ill be honest though, I DO stay away - when I can - from these 'types' of women. Its always a battle.

Theyre not all like this (depending on what part of the world you live in). The most difficult women Ive dated have been in USA.

You are right man. I need to just get out of the USA if i can. I live in the Midatlantic east coast now. Most of the career girls from the city think like this and they get soooo angry when you try to dispel the feminist ideology. Its like these women link their self esteem to these feminist principles. They are extremely ego invested in this idea that they are the same as men. Its bizarre.

My question to you is this. Was it depressing realizing that these American women are sheep? I feel very depressed when i realize that i am talking to a robotic sheep. My other question is have you ever converted one to your side. Have you ever "won" the battle?

 

[Desdinova]

She told me that i am arrogant and that i am not getting laid tonight because of my viewpoints unless i apologize. I told her that i am not going to back pedal on my viewpoints just for sex

It's good that you stood your ground. Sex has nothing to do with having a logical discussion and should not be withheld simply because she doesn't agree with you. This woman would likely be a headache down the road if you were to jump into a LTR with her.

Standing your ground and not being swayed by the sexual carrot is one of the strongest and most powerful things a man can have in his arsenal.

 

[Julian]

lol. first mistake is arguing with a woman about some dumb ****. 2nd, shes a feminist this week, next week she will be a kardashian slore, then a right wing bible thumper...shes gonna be whatever the fuk the media tells her to be.

3rd, you should have played it cool, keep things LIGHT, fuk her brains out...then subconsiously implant your ideas and thoughts into her head by pillow talking her after you made her have intense orgasms. "Oh babe, I could just see us together, me bringing home the bacon...you at home watching our family and keeping things running...thats how things are supposed to be with people"...just little slick lines like that...then move on to talking about her favorite dessert and sex position.

You boys need some game. gotdamn Reading these threads lol

 

[Yewki]

I very depressed now. I am depressed because of how unintelligent people can be. How can people be so animal like and not think. Even after i present cogent logical arguments she still could not acknowledge that i might have a point. If a person can not think critically, then they are not a human in my eyes.

Yeah well, get over it. Everyone does this to some degree. Some more than others. You've been woefully ignorant of things as well.

All you have to decide is whether you like her enough to bang. Don't sweat the details.

 

[Who Dares Win]

What is the point to have such conversation with a girl you're not even intimate with?

Personally I dropped trying to reason with people either men or women, I simply find the ones who think like me and save my energy for more productive things.

Regarding having sex from women I became a manipulating lying machine, I dont even create the single lie, I just adopt the mindset of the type of guy which would score with her.

Is she one of those dumb cvnts into the "sad artist type"? in few minutes I can reframe myself into a progessive victim of an oppressive society who feels under pressure and is happy to find someone who understand him, I dont even need to think what to say, the fake personality comes with a list of arguments and lines.

Once Im done I simply leave, thats why I dont take girls home and I dont exchange contacts or sensitive informations, it sounds like a psycho but its the other way around, I cant stand arguing or conflict for no reason so manipulation comes much more smooth.

I do the same even when dealing with men from whom I need something but dislike as person, lost the count of the socialist bullsh1t I said to immigrant taxi drivers to have discounts, I even had a foreign father myself once.

So my suggestion is, date and fvck girls and invest your time and energy only when you see some potential behind, no need to tell you that it comes easier to convert her from a position of power then a position of weakness, no need to tell you where you stand before having sex with her.

 

[HoneyHitter]

She's like the fat kid that threatens to take his ball home as soon as he starts losing a game. Childish.

 

[Bible_Belt]

And for the 1,000,0001st time, a thread is started on sosuave by a guy with girl problems that are caused by taking a woman's words seriously.

 

[logicallefty]

As my late step dad used to say "A man will never win an argument/debate with a woman. That is because what comes out of a woman's mouth doesn't have to be a true fact in order to be 'right'". In your case OP, you nuked her with facts. But that "disrespected" her so you "lost" and she "won". Make logical sense? NO? Of course not, it's from a woman, it never will! I would add a little more but the others have pretty much covered it.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Yep. If you just nod your head and pretend to agree, you will get a lot more pvssy.

I remember from selling vacuum cleaners, I'd be in a black household with a giant pic of MLK on the wall who would tell me all about discrimination keeping them down, and then the next house would have a confederate flag on the wall and complain to me about the damn blacks taking over. If you want to close the deal, you have to pretend to agree with whatever stupid, ignorant opinions the prospect possesses.

 

[logicallefty]

Yep. If you just nod your head and pretend to agree, you will get a lot more pvssy.

I remember from selling vacuum cleaners, I'd be in a black household with a giant pic of MLK on the wall who would tell me all about discrimination keeping them down, and then the next house would have a confederate flag on the wall and complain to me about the damn blacks taking over. If you want to close the deal, you have to pretend to agree with whatever stupid, ignorant opinions the prospect possesses.

That's why I could never make it in sales. The BS filters attached to my mouth don't work that well anymore. I don't even do well in the sales game as the customer. I normally end up p|ssing sales people off because I just tell them to cut the BS, skip the lunches free baseball tickets etc, and just give me the best price possible right now.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The "con" in con man is short for confidence. That's the origin of the expression "to con someone." Build up their confidence, and they will do whatever you want, because they are so confident about making the right decision.

 

[Alvafe]

lol. first mistake is arguing with a woman about some dumb ****. 2nd, shes a feminist this week, next week she will be a kardashian slore, then a right wing bible thumper...shes gonna be whatever the fuk the media tells her to be.

3rd, you should have played it cool, keep things LIGHT, fuk her brains out...then subconsiously implant your ideas and thoughts into her head by pillow talking her after you made her have intense orgasms. "Oh babe, I could just see us together, me bringing home the bacon...you at home watching our family and keeping things running...thats how things are supposed to be with people"...just little slick lines like that...then move on to talking about her favorite dessert and sex position.

You boys need some game. gotdamn Reading these threads lol

why have this much trouble if you can drop her and find a better girl around? your 2nd point would means to me whe is not LTR material and would just use her for sex, but since she is a feminist is not even worth the hassle to deal with her just for that, too many woman around for you to waste time on a low class skank.

you can keep things light and not discuss such things if the only thing you want from her is her body, if you want anything more you need to test her and see if she pass, as we can see she didn't pass, so he should follow suite and start looking around again

 

[LiveFreeX]

That's like regretting that you didn't play with nuclear waste when you had the opportunity because comic books told you it would give you super powers.

 

[Julian]

why have this much trouble if you can drop her and find a better girl around? your 2nd point would means to me whe is not LTR material and would just use her for sex, but since she is a feminist is not even worth the hassle to deal with her just for that, too many woman around for you to waste time on a low class skank.

you can keep things light and not discuss such things if the only thing you want from her is her body, if you want anything more you need to test her and see if she pass, as we can see she didn't pass, so he should follow suite and start looking around again

Social engineering isnt that hard. Its second nature when you know what you want and how to pursuade someone. I could sell salt to a slug..I could take a zebra out of its stripes...i could turn a feminist into my personal sex kitten etc. When you have true power you can do these things.

 

[YawataNoKami]

Feminist "logic":Women are more than a vagina.

Feminist: You are not getting laid tonight because of you viewpoints.

The stupid , it fvcking burns.

 

[Yewki]

Feminist "logic":Women are more than a vagina.

Feminist: You are not getting laid tonight because of you viewpoints.

The stupid , it fvcking burns.

Those are not conflicting statements

 

[Alvafe]

Social engineering isnt that hard. Its second nature when you know what you want and how to pursuade someone. I could sell salt to a slug..I could take a zebra out of its stripes...i could turn a feminist into my personal sex kitten etc. When you have true power you can do these things.

the problem is not having the power to do so, the real question here is why waste time? just to say you can? what is the point? too many woman around to waste time with a bitter woman, move along dude, let her dry up

 

[Julian]

the problem is not having the power to do so, the real question here is why waste time? just to say you can? what is the point? too many woman around to waste time with a bitter woman, move along dude, let her dry up

A waste of time is subjective to perspective.