Kezia Noble: Why women love it when you don't give a FU*K

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I wouldn't be inclined to take relationship advice from the self-proclaimed "world's leading female advice expert for men". Having said that, she's not wrong in this case. If you don't care, you come across as more confident, relaxed, etc. But this is common knowledge and not exactly "guru level advice".
 

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I wouldn't be inclined to take relationship advice from the self-proclaimed "world's leading female advice expert for men". Having said that, she's not wrong in this case. If you don't care, you come across as more confident, relaxed, etc. But this is common knowledge and not exactly "guru level advice".
Exactly. Another way to think of it is acting the same around women as you would with a best guy friend. You are relaxed, funny, and you aren't "filtering" what you are going to say.

Guys who happily taken or getting laid do this naturally. They don't "need" the girl they are talking to, so they relax, have fun, and don't care what she thinks.

But as with all "game," it's a not silver bullet. It won't make an ugly guy hot, but it will generally help if she has at least SOME attraction to the guy.
 

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Sounds like she just read the DJ Bible. This is pretty common knowledge here. But never the less, it was good advice (strange coming from a woman).

The thing I always had an issue with was getting the woman invested in you. This way you can walk away and have her chase you. I quickly found out, though, that outcome independence was the only way. I always thought about the future and what could go wrong. A change in inner dialogue is the way to go

The investment part is where betas fail and alphas win. You get a chick invested into you by seducing her, and fukking her giving her amazing mind blowing sex/orgasms.
 

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Why women love it when you don't give a FU*K
How ironic! Apparently we do give a fu*k about what women love... we try to not care about women because we want them to love us :p
 

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Gotta respect her for going against the femigrain. I bet she has a lot of interesting arguments with her female friends. I like the way she says "fvck". Its like she puts emphasis on that word sounds sexy lol
 

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Gotta respect her for going against the femigrain. I bet she has a lot of interesting arguments with her female friends. I like the way she says "fvck". Its like she puts emphasis on that word sounds sexy lol
She can be also a lesbian but damn that chick is hot.
Still i have more trust in the dj bible than her.
 

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I wouldn't be inclined to take relationship advice from the self-proclaimed "world's leading female advice expert for men". Having said that, she's not wrong in this case.
I've read some of her stuff. She started out as an instructor working under some male PUA gurus whose names escape me at the moment. But she learned all her stuff from the same place most of us did, the male PUA movement. One might argue about how accurate that stuff is, but she's no worse than most, IMO.
 

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I've read some of her stuff. She started out as an instructor working under some male PUA gurus whose names escape me at the moment. But she learned all her stuff from the same place most of us did, the male PUA movement. One might argue about how accurate that stuff is, but she's no worse than most, IMO.
Generally speaking, women are incapable of giving good dating advice to men. That's because what women think they want in a guy is rarely what actually attracts them. Have you ever heard a woman say "I want a guy who is good at playing with my emotions"? Probably not. But we've all heard women say that they want a nice guy who will treat them right. And we all know which strategy is more likely to succeed. A woman may try to give counter-intuitive advice that she picked up from some "PUA guru", but at best, it's going to be regurgitated common sense stuff.
 

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Women love when you don't give a f**k if they have interest in you! If she has no interest, you're invisible!
 

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I couldn't take her pouting and especially her accent, but nice rack. Oh and something about advice.
 

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Generally speaking, women are incapable of giving good dating advice to men. That's because what women think they want in a guy is rarely what actually attracts them. Have you ever heard a woman say "I want a guy who is good at playing with my emotions"? Probably not. But we've all heard women say that they want a nice guy who will treat them right.
I have, of course, heard this point of view repeatedly on this forum. And generally, I agree with it. HOWEVER: That is not the same as saying that NO woman can ever give any good advice, which is how most on this forum seem to take it. Nor does it mean that every MAN's advice is necessarily golden. Some of the male PUA advice is, to me, overblown, hedonistic, self-rationalizing, laughable nonsense. Not all, but some.

As I said, Kezia Noble worked under male PUA gurus instructing their classes, teaching their points. I've read some of her stuff, and she strikes me as no better or worse than any of the others. I also think that SOMETIMES, there is something that can be gained from a female's insight. They might be good at fashion tips, for instance.

Now, you may not agree with this, but I DO think that women want a nice guy who treats them right. But that does not mean the stereotypical "nice guy" wussy doormat that PUAs talk about. That guy is nothing but a pvssy. And by "treats them right", I don't mean a guy putting her on a pedestal, looking up to her, putting her above him, and letting himself become a doormat. But a strong, masculine, presence who holds his own frame and treats her well, but not like a goddess princess, yeah, women love that. Unless they're damaged crazies, they're not looking for a guy to beat her up or cheat on her.
 
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