You men are doing it all wrong!

[djgirl]

I will probably be flamed for this post, but I mean no disrespect and am only trying to give you guys some food for thought. I am a regular visitor this site, mainly because I like to know how my other counterparts in this world think esp in regards to women. I always show my female friends this site and we always come away with a giggle not because we are "jaded" or "man haters" but because of the misleading advice here being given on how to attract women.

Firstly id like to start off with some pointers and tips for you all when it comes to online dating: 1) Stop being so picky. Not every guy can have the same top girl. There is a reason you have resorted to online dating, remember that. 2) Online dating is a numbers game for women. 3) Don't put up ridiculous list of demands when you yourself fall short. 4) Getting "drunk" is not a hobby. 5) Working out and being a gym freak doesn't make you an expert on health & fitness. 6) Don't start off messages with rude comments like "show us your t1ts" or "want to bang", not only is this off putting but it shows how desperate you are especially to those of us who come on to online dating seeking relationships...Read our profiles first and see if what we want matches with what YOU want. 7) Understand that not every girl is going to look like your fantasized porn star/ favourite celebrity. After all your on OLD, get realistic about your expectations.

I'm not painting all women to be innocent angels who can do no wrong because trust me I know women are just as bad with expectations, But some of you men don't make it easier on yourselves when you come across as the above. You wonder why all women have insecurities about our image. Do you know why? Its because you all want us to look like drop dead gorgeous models with stick bodies and big b00bs, its no wonder a lot of women have eating disorders. A lot of them insecurity issues like that because you men don't give us a chance if our bodies and looks aren't in top order, our personalities don't even matter. You all expect us to give you secks up front and then you'll "consider" us for a relationship? Are you for real?? Whats wrong with getting to know the girl first to see if she'd make a great match for you to be initimate with/have relationship with?? Its amazing how you all want it straight off the bat but give little in return for your demands...

You might get girls that will sleep with you/ be dirty with you straight up...But what does that tell you about them?? Its no wonder men whinge that there are no "Decent girls" out when all you guys seem to go for are the ones that put out first and realize that you aren't the only one they did the same to! Maybe stop going for all the "easy ones" or the superficial ones and give some other poor girl who may not be a 10, a chance to impress you. You might surprise yourself and actually end up liking her.

 

[Tictac]

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.....

You almost got some stones girl. Most of what you write is stereotyping men - "you men", "all you guys", "you all"....

As for your OLD 'advice', spend some time reading women's profiles and get back to the men here. You haven't the first clue what women are looking for or asking of men in the typical date profile. So keep your 'tips' to yourself.

Nice rant though.

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Youre wrong in your opinion of what is truly being discussed here INTELLIGENTLY.

This forum preaches self improvement, learning to deal with failure, and living with your own expectations of what makes you happy as a man first. Confidence is the cheat code of the game.

No one credible on here teaches to just say these four simple words to a hot ass chick and her panties get moist. They teach if u like a certain type of female, learn that she might not like u for any million reasons and move on. But with the rejection stay improving your life and with improvement and confidence, the tide turns. That's it.

 

[Desdinova]

Firstly id like to start off with some pointers and tips for you all when it comes to online dating: 1) Stop being so picky. Not every guy can have the same top girl. There is a reason you have resorted to online dating, remember that. 2) Online dating is a numbers game for women. 3) Don't put up ridiculous list of demands when you yourself fall short. 4) Getting "drunk" is not a hobby. 5) Working out and being a gym freak doesn't make you an expert on health & fitness. 6) Don't start off messages with rude comments like "show us your t1ts" or "want to bang", not only is this off putting but it shows how desperate you are especially to those of us who come on to online dating seeking relationships...Read our profiles first and see if what we want matches with what YOU want. 7) Understand that not every girl is going to look like your fantasized porn star/ favourite celebrity. After all your on OLD, get realistic about your expectations.

I'd like to see links to the posts here that caused you to draw up this well thought-out post.

Find a post here where we see online dating as a good option for finding a quality woman.
Find a post here where we promote getting drunk as a worthwhile and rewarding hobby.
Find a post here that promotes "show us your t1ts" and "want to bang" as an effective opener.

As for the advice of "stop being so picky", my answer is that no man wants to fvck an ugly pig. Learn how men function before you come here quoting the typical feminist bull5hit of how men should be more like women. Men are NOT like women because of nature's law of attraction. If men were to be more like women, you yourself would not exist as a person.

 

[Mike32ct]

Whats wrong with getting to know the girl first to see if she'd make a great match for you to be initimate with/have relationship with?

Sounds ok in theory, but it doesn't work that way in reality. She either finds the guy hot and things move fast, or the guy is "not hot" and it's over before it started. Most people don't care about compatibility. They only think with their dik or puss. After they have bhanged a few times, then they backwards rationalize how "compatibile" they are lol.

 

[marmel75]

Well, for the most part I do agree with the online assessment, but it goes both ways. I am in great shape and muscular, but why was I getting messages from chicks that are 300 lbs? I mean do they honestly think I'm going to go for that? Don't need a chick that looks like a stripper, but I Damn sure ain't going for that.

As for the sex part, let's not kid anyone. Women love sex as much or MORE than most guys do. If a woman is attracted enough to a guy she is going to WANT to have sex for HER reasons firstly. On top of that a woman is not going to risk losing a guy she really likes over sex. As for why men want it, let's see...we love sex. Secondarily if we really do like the woman, we can't express it verbally--that is what women do. We have to express it physically. If we don't get sex within a certain time, a woman's attraction will usually start to fade. They will view you as a guy that "doesn't know how to get things done", and will get upset with you for that because THEY want sex too and when they don't get it, they blame the man.

Also, you can never be sure you will see a woman again until you have sex. Once that happens it's like a switch flips in their brains, and then you can pretty much guarantee you will see her again if you want to(as long as you weren't a total dud). It tips the balance of power in the relationship in our favor. And in the end, that's what the early part of a relationship is...a test of power. The woman WANTS the man to have the power in the relationship so she can feel safe when she is with him, but she has to try and take it for herself to see if the guy is strong enough to take it and keep it. These are where "sh!t tests" come in. It's not so much a test as it is a check of strength on a man. When a guy understands why and where it's coming from, they are easy to deal with.

So in summary, I agree with the OLD part, but that it goes both ways. I disagree with the "get to know you part" before sex because while it sounds great, it doesn't work like that in real life. And that's the part guys need to understand. What a woman SAYS she wants is different from what actually works in most cases. It's because women are much more emotional decision makers and go by "feel" and if a guy doesn't get them in bed, something just "feels" wrong about him and she rejects him. Sex is a show of dominance by a male, getting a woman to submit to him. In the end, a woman wants a man to TAKE what he wants in a dominant fashion while she submits to him.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well, for the most part I do agree with the online assessment, but it goes both ways. I am in great shape and muscular, but why was I getting messages from chicks that are 300 lbs? I mean do they honestly think I'm going to go for that? Don't need a chick that looks like a stripper, but I Damn sure ain't going for that.

As for the sex part, let's not kid anyone. Women love sex as much or MORE than most guys do. If a woman is attracted enough to a guy she is going to WANT to have sex for HER reasons firstly. On top of that a woman is not going to risk losing a guy she really likes over sex. As for why men want it, let's see...we love sex. Secondarily if we really do like the woman, we can't express it verbally--that is what women do. We have to express it physically. If we don't get sex within a certain time, a woman's attraction will usually start to fade. They will view you as a guy that "doesn't know how to get things done", and will get upset with you for that because THEY want sex too and when they don't get it, they blame the man.

Also, you can never be sure you will see a woman again until you have sex. Once that happens it's like a switch flips in their brains, and then you can pretty much guarantee you will see her again if you want to(as long as you weren't a total dud). It tips the balance of power in the relationship in our favor. And in the end, that's what the early part of a relationship is...a test of power. The woman WANTS the man to have the power in the relationship so she can feel safe when she is with him, but she has to try and take it for herself to see if the guy is strong enough to take it and keep it. These are where "sh!t tests" come in. It's not so much a test as it is a check of strength on a man. When a guy understands why and where it's coming from, they are easy to deal with.

So in summary, I agree with the OLD part, but that it goes both ways. I disagree with the "get to know you part" before sex because while it sounds great, it doesn't work like that in real life. And that's the part guys need to understand. What a woman SAYS she wants is different from what actually works in most cases. It's because women are much more emotional decision makers and go by "feel" and if a guy doesn't get them in bed, something just "feels" wrong about him and she rejects him. Sex is a show of dominance by a male, getting a woman to submit to him. In the end, a woman wants a man to TAKE what he wants in a dominant fashion while she submits to him.

All women don't want this, many do and it won't be spoken. There are women who are control freaks, who will not have you displaying any acts of dominance nor submitting to you in anyway. Actually some want the men to do the submitting... And if you don't submit, they can always cheat on you for the score. Yes. Women cheat on high value men to elevate themselves and to erode his sense of self worth.

 

[grayclif]

Femanist troll!!!

 

[Bokanovsky]

Reading between the lines, your "advice" for men is to start dating fat girls. Brilliant.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I will probably be flamed for this post, but I mean no disrespect and am only trying to give you guys some food for thought. I am a regular visitor this site, mainly because I like to know how my other counterparts in this world think esp in regards to women. I always show my female friends this site and we always come away with a giggle not because we are "jaded" or "man haters" but because of the misleading advice here being given on how to attract women.

Firstly id like to start off with some pointers and tips for you all when it comes to online dating: 1) Stop being so picky. Not every guy can have the same top girl. There is a reason you have resorted to online dating, remember that. 2) Online dating is a numbers game for women. 3) Don't put up ridiculous list of demands when you yourself fall short. 4) Getting "drunk" is not a hobby. 5) Working out and being a gym freak doesn't make you an expert on health & fitness. 6) Don't start off messages with rude comments like "show us your t1ts" or "want to bang", not only is this off putting but it shows how desperate you are especially to those of us who come on to online dating seeking relationships...Read our profiles first and see if what we want matches with what YOU want. 7) Understand that not every girl is going to look like your fantasized porn star/ favourite celebrity. After all your on OLD, get realistic about your expectations.

I'm not painting all women to be innocent angels who can do no wrong because trust me I know women are just as bad with expectations, But some of you men don't make it easier on yourselves when you come across as the above. You wonder why all women have insecurities about our image. Do you know why? Its because you all want us to look like drop dead gorgeous models with stick bodies and big b00bs, its no wonder a lot of women have eating disorders. A lot of them insecurity issues like that because you men don't give us a chance if our bodies and looks aren't in top order, our personalities don't even matter. You all expect us to give you secks up front and then you'll "consider" us for a relationship? Are you for real?? Whats wrong with getting to know the girl first to see if she'd make a great match for you to be initimate with/have relationship with?? Its amazing how you all want it straight off the bat but give little in return for your demands...

You might get girls that will sleep with you/ be dirty with you straight up...But what does that tell you about them?? Its no wonder men whinge that there are no "Decent girls" out when all you guys seem to go for are the ones that put out first and realize that you aren't the only one they did the same to! Maybe stop going for all the "easy ones" or the superficial ones and give some other poor girl who may not be a 10, a chance to impress you. You might surprise yourself and actually end up liking her.

Yawn, as for your skinny comments. I prefer curvy women, and I read your post

 

[logicallefty]

Yawn, as for your skinny comments. I prefer curvy women, and I read your post

Same here, I like them curvy and nerdy...

I love it with females come here all riled up with their emo goon babble posts. It's entertainment for me without the worry of getting physically punched or clawed when I respond.. I think the OP needs to answer Desdinova before she says anything else... Find the posts here on SS to backup her claims.

 

[dustmuffin]

I will probably be flamed for this post, but I mean no disrespect and am only trying to give you guys some food for thought. I am a regular visitor this site, mainly because I like to know how my other counterparts in this world think esp in regards to women. I always show my female friends this site and we always come away with a giggle not because we are "jaded" or "man haters" but because of the misleading advice here being given on how to attract women.

Firstly id like to start off with some pointers and tips for you all when it comes to online dating: 1) Stop being so picky. Not every guy can have the same top girl. There is a reason you have resorted to online dating, remember that. 2) Online dating is a numbers game for women. 3) Don't put up ridiculous list of demands when you yourself fall short. 4) Getting "drunk" is not a hobby. 5) Working out and being a gym freak doesn't make you an expert on health & fitness. 6) Don't start off messages with rude comments like "show us your t1ts" or "want to bang", not only is this off putting but it shows how desperate you are especially to those of us who come on to online dating seeking relationships...Read our profiles first and see if what we want matches with what YOU want. 7) Understand that not every girl is going to look like your fantasized porn star/ favourite celebrity. After all your on OLD, get realistic about your expectations.

I'm not painting all women to be innocent angels who can do no wrong because trust me I know women are just as bad with expectations, But some of you men don't make it easier on yourselves when you come across as the above. You wonder why all women have insecurities about our image. Do you know why? Its because you all want us to look like drop dead gorgeous models with stick bodies and big b00bs, its no wonder a lot of women have eating disorders. A lot of them insecurity issues like that because you men don't give us a chance if our bodies and looks aren't in top order, our personalities don't even matter. You all expect us to give you secks up front and then you'll "consider" us for a relationship? Are you for real?? Whats wrong with getting to know the girl first to see if she'd make a great match for you to be initimate with/have relationship with?? Its amazing how you all want it straight off the bat but give little in return for your demands...

You might get girls that will sleep with you/ be dirty with you straight up...But what does that tell you about them?? Its no wonder men whinge that there are no "Decent girls" out when all you guys seem to go for are the ones that put out first and realize that you aren't the only one they did the same to! Maybe stop going for all the "easy ones" or the superficial ones and give some other poor girl who may not be a 10, a chance to impress you. You might surprise yourself and actually end up liking her.

Shush girl a man is talking...

 

[Bingo-Player]

"men only want women with perfect bodies and looks" well yes when you boil it down to the bare bones its true men are driven to find the most fertile female often assumed to be the best looking woman available to him

sadly when you flip the coin women only really want men with high social stature , money and good looks aka someone who naturally commands respect in the world

unfortunatley a VAST majority of normal modern men cannot fill that critera so i guess were all losers

women have lost respect for men and that is one of the biggest issues in todays society

men have been beaten into being needy pathetic losers and i think its going to get a lot worse before it gets better

 

[NSX-R]

I guess today you had nothing better to do ,so you wrote an essay full of beta nonsense in MW and you copied/pasted it in every site about picking up women available.

My fellow djs replied already for what i was going to write myself.

 

[marmel75]

Same here, I like them curvy and nerdy...

I love it with females come here all riled up with their emo goon babble posts. It's entertainment for me without the worry of getting physically punched or clawed when I respond.. I think the OP needs to answer Desdinova before she says anything else... Find the posts here on SS to backup her claims.

No thanks...glad to see some guys like fat chicks cause I sure as hell don't. Curvy means I'd rather go to a buffet than the gym. Curvy means 180 lbs+...think I'll pass. Curvy means I'll settle for whatever body I get from being lazy and eating whatever I want. I find it repulsive, can't imagine wanting to see it without clothes on...but that's just me.

 

[AttackFormation]

No thanks...glad to see some guys like fat chicks cause I sure as hell don't. Curvy means I'd rather go to a buffet than the gym. Curvy means 180 lbs+...think I'll pass. Curvy means I'll settle for whatever body I get from being lazy and eating whatever I want. I find it repulsive, can't imagine wanting to see it without clothes on...but that's just me.

I like fat girls, inbuilt preference here. The problem is "fat" is usually equated with things I don't want regardless of her weight: ugliness, unfeminine body shape, not taking care of herself. You say you like fat girls and people think that means you like ugly girls with no @ss who cut their hair short and don't give a sh!t about their appearance or bodies when really the standard is just different, not lower.

The point is that physically feminine women who take care of themselves and aren't ugly will have guys after them, with the detail that different guys prefer them in different amounts of body fat level. Accusing someone of "fat shaming" as the feminists employ it is really just a false flag for accusing someone of not settling for what turns him off and it's not really about the woman's weight (but made worse by it because he doesn't prefer fat girls like I do).

 

[Sprayarc]

I will probably be flamed for this post, but I mean no disrespect and am only trying to give you guys some food for thought. I am a regular visitor this site, mainly because I like to know how my other counterparts in this world think esp in regards to women. I always show my female friends this site and we always come away with a giggle not because we are "jaded" or "man haters" but because of the misleading advice here being given on how to attract women.

Firstly id like to start off with some pointers and tips for you all when it comes to online dating: 1) Stop being so picky. Not every guy can have the same top girl. There is a reason you have resorted to online dating, remember that. 2) Online dating is a numbers game for women. 3) Don't put up ridiculous list of demands when you yourself fall short. 4) Getting "drunk" is not a hobby. 5) Working out and being a gym freak doesn't make you an expert on health & fitness. 6) Don't start off messages with rude comments like "show us your t1ts" or "want to bang", not only is this off putting but it shows how desperate you are especially to those of us who come on to online dating seeking relationships...Read our profiles first and see if what we want matches with what YOU want. 7) Understand that not every girl is going to look like your fantasized porn star/ favourite celebrity. After all your on OLD, get realistic about your expectations.

I'm not painting all women to be innocent angels who can do no wrong because trust me I know women are just as bad with expectations, But some of you men don't make it easier on yourselves when you come across as the above. You wonder why all women have insecurities about our image. Do you know why? Its because you all want us to look like drop dead gorgeous models with stick bodies and big b00bs, its no wonder a lot of women have eating disorders. A lot of them insecurity issues like that because you men don't give us a chance if our bodies and looks aren't in top order, our personalities don't even matter. You all expect us to give you secks up front and then you'll "consider" us for a relationship? Are you for real?? Whats wrong with getting to know the girl first to see if she'd make a great match for you to be initimate with/have relationship with?? Its amazing how you all want it straight off the bat but give little in return for your demands...

You might get girls that will sleep with you/ be dirty with you straight up...But what does that tell you about them?? Its no wonder men whinge that there are no "Decent girls" out when all you guys seem to go for are the ones that put out first and realize that you aren't the only one they did the same to! Maybe stop going for all the "easy ones" or the superficial ones and give some other poor girl who may not be a 10, a chance to impress you. You might surprise yourself and actually end up liking her.

If she has or will put out for some men quickly? why should I have to wait? Those men were good enough but I'm not? That's bvllsh1t. If you and your friends have put out quick for 2 or more different guys you trying to make me wait is an insult.

If she has only put out quickly one time and decided not to conduct herself in that way in the future, that'd be different, but it's unlikely.

Also if a woman lies to me one, for example if she is on the rebound or about orbiters on the back burner, or lies about anything, I now don't owe her anything and am justified to take advantage of the situation and play her, if I want. If she is honest I can make an informed decision on what kind of relationship I want.

The biggest issue with women is they lie and/or hide the truth. This is why its ok to play them.

 

[AttackFormation]

If she has or will put out for some men why should I have to wait?

Haha, because she's trying to do the right thing now

Anything can be rationalized.

 

[RangerMIke]

Men typically don't like fat girls. Sorry, that is the way most of us were made. Looks are very important to men, again.... it's biology, nothing we can do about it.

I am simply amazed when I hear fat girls sitting around and complaining that they can't get dates...or whinning about the quality of man they attract. Instead of advising men to 'lower our standards', how about women just lose weight? Why can't some women just fvcking control what they put in their mouths? Lose weight, get in shape and you'll have more men then you know what to do with, and it is something that is COMPLETELY under your control. You can be a complete and total b!tch with no personality, but if you have a nice body.... there will be plenty of men willing to put up with your sh!t to sleep with you.

As a man, it's a whole lot harder to attract women, especially living in a society that continues to refuse to recognize what REALLY attracts women. Society and the entertainment industry tells men and women that attractive men are needy clingy hyper-pleasing basket cases, when if you, spill your guts, share all your negatives, and just act a pathetic butler, you'll get women.... in fact this behavior dries them up like the Gobi Desert. Talk shows and other female inspired BS tell women big is beautiful, and if a man won't love you for your 'inner beauty' then it's HIS PROBLEM. "You go girl, just be your fat and sassy self!" Worst advice EVER to women.

 

[Sprayarc]

Men typically don't like fat girls. Sorry, that is the way most of us were made. Looks are very important to men, again.... it's biology, nothing we can do about it.

I am simply amazed when I hear fat girls sitting around and complaining that they can't get dates...or whinning about the quality of man they attract. Instead of advising men to 'lower our standards', how about women just lose weight? Why can't some women just fvcking control what they put in their mouths? Lose weight, get in shape and you'll have more men then you know what to do with, and it is something that is COMPLETELY under your control. You can be a complete and total b!tch with no personality, but if you have a nice body.... there will be plenty of men willing to put up with your sh!t to sleep with you.

As a man, it's a whole lot harder to attract women, especially living in a society that continues to refuse to recognize what REALLY attracts women. Society and the entertainment industry tells men and women that attractive men are needy clingy hyper-pleasing basket cases, when if you, spill your guts, share all your negatives, and just act a pathetic butler, you'll get women.... in fact this behavior dries them up like the Gobi Desert. Talk shows and other female inspired BS tell women big is beautiful, and if a man won't love you for your 'inner beauty' then it's HIS PROBLEM. "You go girl, just be your fat and sassy self!" Worst advice EVER to women.

Exactly. I'm tired of this ridiculous idea that men having standards is misogyny.