What was up with this degenerate

Sprayarc

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So I was dry for about two years. Basically homeless on and off. Went to rehab. Moved into a halfway house. Found a job.

So I decided to hit up pof. Met two women. Both asian. Both were comfortable with my past. Picked me up from my halfway house, always paid for themselves. One was 19 (she originally lied and claimed she was 20) and one was 45 (but claimed originally she was 34).

Before I get to my main question, I'll talk a bit about the young one. She was a very happy girl. I remember when she first picked me up, I got into the car, and she just laughed. Not at me though, I think she was just happy to see me. Took her miniature golfing (she paid for herself of course and she had an absolute blast. I was nervous because it was just kind of akward in general for me to kind of readjust to not being homeless.

This girl was very sweet. Very thoughtful. I really liked her because she was just really happy and that made me feel good. I actually waited to kiss her til the third date because idk. But I could tell this girl did not know how to make up. It was very awkward. A bit sloppy. Anyways it didnt work out. She would not let me near her vagina. She'd let me pull her tit out in the car and suck on it during make out sessions but that was it. I tried to pull a power move (maybe we should take a break, bla bla bla) and in blew up in my face hard. Oh well.

Ok 2nd one. Originally lied about her name, her age. Our first date she picked me up in her Mercedes from my halfway house. We went to starbucks and I accidently bought her tea. Seriously the a$$hole clerk just assumed I was paying for her. I even said to my date as we walked away from the countr "wow i didnt even mean to pay for you, *nudges her with my elbow* but don't worry I guess its ok *big grin*"

So i went to smoke and she was b!tching about me smoking. She even said "you dont give a fvck about me".... Ok thats a red flag. But I smoked anyways and as she sat there complaining i just kind of ignored her and smiled.

So i proceeded to sit down and chat. She didn't seem to want to talk much, I tried to get her to talk about herself and she did a bit, but i just ended up talking the whole time. I mean whatever. So at one point i just felt this date is done so I got up and said hey we should probably get going. I asked her if I could drive her benz and put my hand out for the keys, she came over and basically kissed me, but really she got close and clearly wanted me to so I did.

We made out for a while standing outside the car, then in the car. We started hanging out quite a bit and eventually she put out, in her car, in the drive way of my half way house.

Then she started to get a hotel room for us every friday night. Always wanted to spend the whole weekend with me. Took me to and paid for longhorn steakhouse, outback, chinese buffet.

Just treating me like gold. But beause of sosauve I could already see these cluster b red flags. I saw it from the first date.

Thing was is that she wasn't that great in bed. She wasnt horrible, I mean for a 45 year old her ***** was very tight (japanese) and I mean the tightest pvssy ive had.

So turns out she actually lived with her ex. She was honest about having a male roommate (half truths) but hadn't mentioned it was her ex (of 8 years).

Yup bit of a mess. Drama.

But fvck I don't even have a car and I was kind of curious about cluster b's after reading about it here on sosuave.

I'd literally spend a weekend with this woman, and dump her over text on monday or tuesday and ignore her either till friday, or for like two weeks.

I remember one time I hit my finger with a grinder at work, when she found out she rushed out to my place (50 min drive) brought me band aids, antibiotic gel, took me out to dinner and on the way back she says "You want sex?" me "no" her "you want blow job? you good?" me "nah im tired. (I really was tired my finger hurt.)

Another time I was negligent at work and gave my self flash burn (sunburn on your eye) Horrible pain you have no idea I will never get that again. She rushed out and brought me expensive eye drops.

I mean I was some times really affectionate to her and sometimes (because I knew she wasn't very honest sometimes before it all actually came to light) an a$shole.

I mean at one point I didnt have enough to pay my health insurance, so I convinced her to lend me 500$. She made me sign a promissory notice in front of a notary. I didn't pay her back within the terms of the actual promissory note. I took way, way longer and paid her in much, much smaller payments. Even before I fully paid her back for the first hundred, I was getting kicked out of the halfway house I was living in at the time (mother fvcker had stoled some of my food and a back of smokes from my carton). She lent me another 500$ as long as I promised to do another promissory note in from of a notary. I didnt sign the second note.

So I had some money coming my way, but I couldnt get to it for a bit. I took FOREVER to pay her back. I was almost going to just tell her to fvck off and not pay. She can't miss work and I know how much it costs to take some one to court for that amount, ect. I researched the entire process and all the costs involved.

I know for a fact that one of the times I dumped her (because I knew she wasn't honest, whether via omission or just telling lies) she has fvcked her exbf/ roomate. (she is in a lot of debt, her mortgage is a lot, he pays rent on time every time.

So she was even trying to hint to me about renting a room from her (HAHAHAHA yeah right) in her house and she also mentioned how she might rent out her house and buy an apartment building in Miami, live in one of the units, rent one of them to me at a reduced rate as long as I did maintenance. Both of these ideas are not in my favor.

Any ways. She spent a lot of time and money on me. But also she lies constantly about everything.

So do you think she was cluster b? Oh she had mentioned, because I asked her, that her dad used to hit her and she grew up in a foster home. Of course I really dont trust anything this woman (or pretty much any women) say.

Sorry if this is not a very well structured thread. What are your thoughts???
 

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No clue other than she is a nut. Doesn't really mater. Crazy is crazy.
 

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This will come as a shock to you but you were the cluster b.
 

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This will come as a shock to you but you were the cluster b.
I respectfully disagree. I simply recognized the first red flag and new better. Dude she lives with her ex. I was 100 percent honest with her about my past and current situation. I dumped her constantly because I knew she wasnt honest with me. I would hit her up again because I live with a bunch of dudes from a halfway house and I knew I could get free dinner, free hotel room and bust my nut.

She only liked me because I'm younger than her, I'm white (she told me she likes white blondes), and because I was very affectionate with her. She told me many times she loves the way I touch her.

Man she completely led me on and lied. I was very honest with her. The only thing I lied about was I was seeing the 19 year-old when I first started dating her. But she l about her name, her age, the fact that she was divorced. When I confronted her about being divorced with proof she first denied it, then she claimed he was a gay friend who was helping her get citizenship. She has also done steroids in the past. Yet I was honest.
 
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Cluster-b is very likely. I'm glad you payed her back, props for that. I wouldn't put up with her cr@p but then again you seem to be getting compensated for it quite well with the loans, dinners, transportation, etc.. Sounds like she treats you like a king in comparison to many women in America, even if she is a wack job too. It's difficult to find one anymore that's not at least one of the elements of cluster-b, or all of them.
 

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Cluster-b is very likely. I'm glad you payed her back, props for that. I wouldn't put up with her cr@p but then again you seem to be getting compensated for it quite well with the loans, dinners, transportation, etc.. Sounds like she treats you like a king in comparison to many women in America, even if she is a wack job too. It's difficult to find one anymore that's not at least one of the elements of cluster-b, or all of them.
Yeah but is still not worth being scammed and led on. My mistake was getting emotionally involved/ spending to much time with one woman. This level of lying is simply unacceptable. She tried very very hard to branch on to me. If I didn't know better she'd really have gotten me.

Women like this are worthless. They waste people's time. Zero consideration for other's feelings. All to have their needs met.

I think that this type of behaviour is the reason why society was structured the way it was, in terms of gender, before feminism. Many women lack honor and are far too deceitful. It's like back then it was ok to treat women pretty well. But now you better make sure you're getting more than your giving, at the very least just in case, and at the worst if they do play you, you didn't leave empty handed.

It still didn't make me feel good ultimately. Stinky old b!tch.
 
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Lol, OP, if you are going to post show off pics with your shirt off, at least have something to show off...
 

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I think a better idea is too just not show your body with your underwear bellow your waist on a forum dominated by heterosexual men. Anyway, you are the cluster b. Lending money and thinking about not paying her back? Get some integrity. Criminal record. Living in a half way house. Getting kicked out of a halfway house. Complaining about buying someone a cup of tea. You sound unstable, and that is why you are a cluster b. But here's the punchline. The worst thing you've done, is upload that photo to this website of all websites. When will the madness end? When?
 

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Dude living in a halfway house and then getting kicked out of it, talking about how he didn't want to pay her the money back and just wanted to basically steal from her.

And she is the degenerate? Look in the mirror bro.
 

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Lol, OP, if you are going to post show off pics with your shirt off, at least have something to show off...
Yeah. I'm a skinny ****. That's ok though, skinny guys fight till they're burger. I'm ok with it.
 

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Wow. Why so much hostility and judgment. Also I'm not pulling my pants down. That's where they naturally sit.
 

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maybe she was crazy, but YOU are a total scumbag
 

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You did pay it back which is good.. But, with all due respects, the fact that you didn't think you "had to" tells us a lot about you, Sir.
 

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You did pay it back which is good.. But, with all due respects, the fact that you didn't think you "had to" tells us a lot about you, Sir.
Well she was very dishonest with me. Led me on. All the other sh1t I mentioned. This to me means the gloves are off. If she was an honest, decent person who has respect and consideration for other's than I would never consider not paying her back. Does this clarify things for you guys? I mean if some one punches you in the face would you not punch them back? I mean she was the scumbag first. You guys sound a bit like white knights. You call her crazy, excusing her conduct, yet call me a scrum bag basically saying I'm a bad person.
 
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