Women are ****ing retarded. The game is rigged.

[Tenacity]

Great topic and conversation. Chiming in her on a few things possibly off topic.


I hear and see a lot of this. But this doesn't happen to me very often. Why - you ask. Because the FIRST time it happens with a particular girl, I call her out on it. If she continues, then I show her the door. She either corrects her behavior or I don't allow her to be a part of my life. Problem solved.

By who? Why won't she be called out? What's stopping you from calling her out? I hear guys complain about their girlfirends/wives: she does this, she did that. Call her out, leave her, take a break. Why do people put up with this ****. Work and the daily politics asside, a woman in your life - of your choosing - should not act like this. Nature, nurture, her history......**** all that. When a woman passes through the gates - when she enters into your life, you decide if she can stay. Simple as can be.

You are correct on an individualized basis and what myself or what you would do personally, but from a generic holistic point of view, she WON'T be called out for most things. Understand that most of the behaviors, requirements, criteria, etc. of women are completely ridiculous, but instead of calling them out on their ridiculous shyt, we instead create "seduction books" on how to "navigate her bullshyt". Just as an example:

- Women want to be treated as equal to men, but STILL want a man to pay for the date, hold the door open, pull out doors, pay for most of the expenses during a co-habitation relationship, etc. Bytch if you are equal to me, then equal means 50/50 lol.

- You will have a woman that's fat with 3 kids from 3 different thugs, who is currently broke and can barely pay her Metro PCS cell phone bill, REQUEST that she wants a man with no kids, with a degree, who is over 6 foot tall, handsome, with a big dyck, and who makes almost 6 figures. This request is completely and utterly ridiculous, but no one from a holistic point of view will call her out on this bullshyt, most guys would just try to BECOME the guy she listed in this description without asking why the hell is she asking for damn near perfection when she's clearly fvcked up?

- All across the Manosphere, especially Sosuave, the focus is on "self-improvement" so we can attract women more easily. This self-improvement is all about getting in the gym to get fit, fixing our finances so we are financially stable, fixing our looks, working on our personality to be more reliable, etc. But NO WHERE in the Manosphere does anybody ask, "Why the fvck aren't women required to fix their shyt??"

We as men have to do the work to fix ourselves, but we ask nothing of women. When a man cheats, he's a dog. When a woman cheats, it's because her man wasn't doing XYZ right and that made her cheat.

There was a time when I would be in amazement of how the guys who didn't kiss attractive girl's asses happened to be the same guys who managed to be having sex with all those same girls. The reason wasn't because they had a certain x factor, it was simply because they weren't kissing these girls asses, like the rest of us were. That was it. Simple. Cause and effect.

All that aside, there is a thing call charm, charisma, congruency, calibration, temperance, loyalty. These are all factors that play into it, but they have nothing to do with looks, money, or status. Be outcome independent, buy her a gift when she deserves it, and have fun with it - her. And always be able to walk away.

All of this is good pseudo Sosuave regurgitation lol, but let's just step outside of the "Sosuave Bible" for a minute and do our own independent critical analysis.

Tenacity and Wandering Man can decide tomorrow that we will call women out on their bullshyt and start holding them accountable, but that won't change anything holistically. 99% of OTHER men will not call women out on anything, instead they will just become "order takers" and seek to fit whatever ridiculous criteria, measurement or standard that women have in order to get what's in between her legs.

The situation won't change until there's a movement of Men standing up and fighting against it, and that won't happen anytime soon because it will just be labeled as "woman bashing" in this very PC world we are now living in.

If Tenacity and Wandering Man "fight against the wind" too long, all we are going to do is grow old with our dycks growing limp, without having enjoyed the available amount of a.ss running around. So what's my solution? Become a Player and NEVER do any legal relationships with women. Become an Order Taker, continue to improve your looks, personality and finances so you are attractive to women and provide them with great entertainment, this will get them to fvck you. Fvck as many as possible, spin plates, never make children, never get married, and you will be okay.

That's my market analysis and that's my solution to said market.

 

[ubercat]

Tenacity if its that bad in America and I suspect it is why don't you opt out get yourself a nice little Latina or Asian chickie. And yes I am taking my own advice

 

[WanderingMan]

You are correct on an individualized basis and what myself or what you would do personally, but from a generic holistic point of view, she WON'T be called out for most things. Understand that most of the behaviors, requirements, criteria, etc. of women are completely ridiculous, but instead of calling them out on their ridiculous shyt, we instead create "seduction books" on how to "navigate her bullshyt". Just as an example:

- Women want to be treated as equal to men, but STILL want a man to pay for the date, hold the door open, pull out doors, pay for most of the expenses during a co-habitation relationship, etc. Bytch if you are equal to me, then equal means 50/50 lol.

That's where YOU step in and have them pay. Who cares what they "want". What do you want? True, there is a give and take, and I like paying for **** every once in a while, but she better be contributing someway somehow. And they will, if they like you. If they don't offer it up themselves, point it out to them. If they don't get the hint----------------------------> walk away.

- You will have a woman that's fat with 3 kids from 3 different thugs, who is currently broke and can barely pay her Metro PCS cell phone bill, REQUEST that she wants a man with no kids, with a degree, who is over 6 foot tall, handsome, with a big dyck, and who makes almost 6 figures. This request is completely and utterly ridiculous, but no one from a holistic point of view will call her out on this bullshyt, most guys would just try to BECOME the guy she listed in this description without asking why the hell is she asking for damn near perfection when she's clearly fvcked up?

Well, I agree someone will probably do this. But, he's not going to very quality himself, or, if he is, then he needs a talking to, and some re-education, or if he's all for it, so be it. Better him than you.

- All across the Manosphere, especially Sosuave, the focus is on "self-improvement" so we can attract women more easily. This self-improvement is all about getting in the gym to get fit, fixing our finances so we are financially stable, fixing our looks, working on our personality to be more reliable, etc. But NO WHERE in the Manosphere does anybody ask, "Why the fvck aren't women required to fix their shyt??"

Who says they aren't? Who cares. The point is to have the CHOICE on who to date. YOU get to choose. So, if she's a BPD retard who won't cook and expects you to pay the bills, then you choose not to be with her. It's a free country, man.

We as men have to do the work to fix ourselves, but we ask nothing of women. When a man cheats, he's a dog. When a woman cheats, it's because her man wasn't doing XYZ right and that made her cheat.

It all depends here. Two sides to every story. Tides are turning in regards to "women can do no wrong". Either way, caring if people think you're a dog, is not an "alpha" mind set. It's a nice guy beta mind set. You cheat on your girlfriend, break her heart. Her friends will give her a shoulder to cry on and agree to her face about what an ******* you are, but at the same time they'll be fantasizing about having your bad boy d1ck buried in their cooch while bending them over their kitchen table.

Tenacity and Wandering Man can decide tomorrow that we will call women out on their bullshyt and start holding them accountable, but that won't change anything holistically. 99% of OTHER men will not call women out on anything, instead they will just become "order takers" and seek to fit whatever ridiculous criteria, measurement or standard that women have in order to get what's in between her legs.

This is where you and many others are wrong. Are you going to blame a beta for taking your girl? Attraction, brah. There are ways to create it, other than working out and getting a new haircut. As an example: The simple act, in itself, of putting a girl in her place(when deserved) will increase her attraction for you. The act of capitulating and allowing a woman to run amok and act like a demanding spoiled brat will decrease her attraction for you. And, of course, walking away from her will increase her attraction for you. Repeat that 10 times.

The situation won't change until there's a movement of Men standing up and fighting against it, and that won't happen anytime soon because it will just be labeled as "woman bashing" in this very PC world we are now living in.

Again, you're worried about what others think. Though, I understand we have reputations, jobs, families, etc. We can't go around like we're in the stone age trying to pull women into our caves by their hair. It's called calibration - knowing when an where - timing and delivery. Also, the act of walking away, not responding to a text, changing plans, telling them no <----- These things aren't "women bashing". They're having boundaries and standards and standing up for yourself and being a man. And..........natural attraction builders.

If Tenacity and Wandering Man "fight against the wind" too long, all we are going to do is grow old with our dycks growing limp, without having enjoyed the available amount of a.ss running around. So what's my solution? Become a Player and NEVER do any legal relationships with women. Become an Order Taker, continue to improve your looks, personality and finances so you are attractive to women and provide them with great entertainment, this will get them to fvck you. Fvck as many as possible, spin plates, never make children, never get married, and you will be okay.

That's my market analysis and that's my solution to said market.

I'm not fighting against the wind, I'm controlling the mother ****ing wind. I'm like one giant wind breaker with fans and **** pointing out in all directions (if that makes sense). Bro, I'll do a relationship with a woman if she's relationship material. I'll just be FB's with her, if she's FB material. I won't try to make a chick a girlfriend, and hope she passes my tests. If she passes them then I'll consider her gf material, if she doesn't then I'll do something else with her. Outcome independence.

I haven't been laid in over a month. I moved, living at a friends place (who has a family), and started a new job at the same time. My goals and daily tasks to get where I want to be are the farthest thing from getting laid at this point. I could make some opportunities if I wanted, but I'm busy right now. Sure, if some poossy fell out of mid-air and landed on my d1ck, yeah I'd give it a go, but other than that, the poossy can wait. Once I get my **** straightened out, wandering man will be back in action, and I'll be pulling in some vag, but that will be when I'm ready. My time and energy is currently being used elsewhere.

My point^: I'm independent, I don't need it. It doesn't control me - I control it. It doesn't define me, I define me. I'm above it, and always outcome independent of it. And that, in itself, is attractive to women.

chick: hey Wandering Man, you free tonight.
me: nah, I'm busy babe
chick: blah blah waaaaa blah
me: *silence*
chick: okay please let me know when you're free
me: k

They eat it up. Live your life how you want to. YOU make the rules.

 

[WanderingMan]

You are right about all of this.
The reason it is hard to walk away is because there are not a lot of quality options out there.
I just walked away 5 days ago from mine of 21 months, things would not change, she would not grow, wanted to move in and get married yet I told her what I needed from her to do that. Instead of growing and becoming what I needed she became mad and was terrible to me for 6 months because she couldnt get what she wanted.
Next

I feel you here. You find one that seems to be of good quality and treats you well, you're hooked - good deal. But **** changes, as it does for whatever reason. It's disappointing, like having a buddy that lets you down, or a job where the boss stabs you in the back. That's where INDEPENDENCE is key. I see guys that go from girlfriend to girlfriend - they always NEED a girl. These girls though, are always a notch or two below what he COULD be getting, if he just didn't SETTLE. Be free my man. It's better than it seems. And will produce better results - in the long run.

 

[exhausted]

I feel you here. You find one that seems to be of good quality and treats you well, you're hooked - good deal. But **** changes, as it does for whatever reason. It's disappointing, like having a buddy that lets you down, or a job where the boss stabs you in the back. That's where INDEPENDENCE is key. I see guys that go from girlfriend to girlfriend - they always NEED a girl. These girls though, are always a notch or two below what he COULD be getting, if he just didn't SETTLE. Be free my man. It's better than it seems. And will produce better results - in the long run.

i was single for 7 years prior to be in this ltr, i spun plates then finally decided to commit. All for nothing it seems. These girls want it all today but offer nothing but arguments and unhappiness. After 5 days NC she oops messaged me on fb, i did not respond, then she messaged again asking how i was, i did not respnd, then left a long message kinda missing me, i did not respond, the next night messages me confused why i wont respond to her and why i hate her so much, i dont respond then exactly 25 mins later message me with anger turning it around she will not forgive me for anything and has turned her love into hate for me..............I broke things off with her last week for her continued bs, disrespect and causing me stress.........instead of taking any responsibility she turns it around on me. these girls are useless.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I used to think as 'The Game' spread around that men would basically wise up to women's BS and stop being wussies but it seems the opposite effect has taken over. I've noticed the number of neckbeards, hipsters, male feminists and white knights simply sky rocket. Seems there was a surge towards male centric behavior during the mid 2000's that was promptly cut off and then beaten to death by insane amounts of feminist backlash. I wonder if being pumped and dumped by an entire generation of men caused the pendulum swing of dysfunction.

 

[WanderingMan]

i was single for 7 years prior to be in this ltr, i spun plates then finally decided to commit. All for nothing it seems. These girls want it all today but offer nothing but arguments and unhappiness. After 5 days NC she oops messaged me on fb, i did not respond, then she messaged again asking how i was, i did not respnd, then left a long message kinda missing me, i did not respond, the next night messages me confused why i wont respond to her and why i hate her so much, i dont respond then exactly 25 mins later message me with anger turning it around she will not forgive me for anything and has turned her love into hate for me..............I broke things off with her last week for her continued bs, disrespect and causing me stress.........instead of taking any responsibility she turns it around on me. these girls are useless.

Sounds like you did the right thing by dumping her. Not sure how you were during the relationship. Most relationships aren't going to last one way or another. You break up with her, or she breaks up with you - for whatever reasons. This is my point with outcome independence. Enjoy the good times while you're with her, without those only be good times depending on whether you two end up staying together. Break ups happen, and being the way of the hamster - in her perception - you're going to be at fault. Oh well.

 

[exhausted]

Sounds like you did the right thing by dumping her. Not sure how you were during the relationship. Most relationships aren't going to last one way or another. You break up with her, or she breaks up with you - for whatever reasons. This is my point with outcome independence. Enjoy the good times while you're with her, without those only be good times depending on whether you two end up staying together. Break ups happen, and being the way of the hamster - in her perception - you're going to be at fault. Oh well.

I was absolutely spectacular during the relationship. After all these years of hurt and stress and finally getting back into one I made sure if it did not work out I for one would have no regret or guilt and secondly I would so great that she will be ruined forever in regret. The next guy will truly prove how much she screwed up and what she lost....I wont lie though, there were times where I was a bit mean, or more accurately stood up for myself and didnt take any ****, put her in her place on how to be. She is a spoiled brat so when I did or said something like that, especially because it was a shock as I have been so nice and composed, she takes something minor and blows it up to use against me.
In today's world, marriage stands no chance.

 

[jgvisions]

HOLY ****ING ****! I just watched the video and that **** pissed me off! Let me get this straight.....they COMPLAIN that the men in toranto/Canada don't hold doors or do some of the old chivalry stuff but they beat it out of their own men with Feminist/SJW BS constantly and yet jump ship to a place where the men do all that and have no issues with it? Awesomesauce all the way.

 

[Sprayarc]

Women have more options and society is easier in them. Almost Everything can be reduced to simple terms when you're talking about general human behavior.

 

[LiveFreeX]

This isn't the woman's fault guys... no not completely. The men here are so ****ing weak it hurts. They tolerate this sh1t from every which way. I didn't really understand it until now but most Canadians are blue collar males and they are soooooooooooooooooooo entitled and ungrateful they've become weak little pussies. Then they go on to become absentee fathers and build little princesses who are told they can do no wrong, its a vicious circle.

I'm really starting to understand it the more I speak to small town Canadian men, they just accept whatever is in front of them and act as if they are powerless to do anything about it... in fact last night there was a guy I was on call with, and we went out to this place that had two fat women. He kept muttering under his breath that he'd give anything to be able to have one of those. They were pretty trashy with tattooed arms and the like but this guy, he must have been so hard up, I guess he was married but his wife sounded like a *****. I asked him why not just go home and throw his wife on the bed and tell her how its going to be? He gave me a sideways glance as if I was a monster and then said "yeah right, duuuh!!!", shaking his head as if I had just said something stupid. I was being serious, I said that I would never take that sh1t from my wife and she respects me and treats me well because of it. Apparently he is on his 3rd marriage and talks quite a bit about not being able to figure out women, he's an older guy... all his kids are girls of course and he is always in a sh1tty mood. His desk is an absolute trash heap reminiscent of an episode of hoarders, he listens to country music, stinks of cigarettes and has a terrible attitude. Thinks anything that isn't hockey related, simply isn't for men. Anything that contradicts his way of being, simply does not exist and he tries hard to ignore. I don't know if you have these types down south but he would basically be a redneck type that liked guns, huntin and beer. For this reason, I don't think anyone should be trying to engage in 'alpha' hobbies or behaviors, alpha's are generally losers who date red neck loser women.

He's a very typical Canadian country bumpkin, likes sports, beers, coffee and cigarettes... knows nothing about the world outside and more importantly doesn't want to know. When I tell people like him about other countries, I usually just get an eye roll, I never quite understood it but I'm beginning too, he said he doesn't need extra useless stuff clogging up his head. Canadian men have programmed themselves to be like this, allow women to dictate what males should do and what they shouldn't, they have allowed their women to become opinionated bitches and they somehow enjoy it. They think that anything that interrupts their 'way of life' is evil and are completely disgusted when men show any sign of independence from Canadian socially acceptable thought patterns. Despite being in the trades, I don't feel comfortable around these types of people.

Yesterday the fat HR girl told me she hits her boyfriend in the face once in awhile when he says things he shouldn't despite him being 6'4 and built. I asked why her bf takes that? She answered, he has to or he ain't getting any. I replied "that's interesting, if it were me I would have called the cops and had you taken out". She scrunched up her face as if I had said something perverse, certainly she expected me to laugh and give approval. Is it any wonder she's a single mother.... I don't think I'll have this job much longer actually but this is the type of behavior that is not just acceptable but expected in Canada. Men here, they don't want to understand, they DO want to go home to a fat girl, be told they are stupid and worthless, complain a little, then go down to Tim Hortons for a coffee and a smoke. If you ever go down to Tim's you will see it, 10 Contractor vans with exactly this type of 'old' guy hanging out the window with a half burnt cigarette.

I believe this is the result of ultra sh1tty MALE parenting coupled with an inability to take responsibility for one's self due to a nanny state. I would bet all these men came from fathers who shared the same 'hockey for men, everything else for wussies' attitude because they don't possess the ability to think for themselves. For PUAs this place would be a walk in the park... if the park were a zoo and all the animals were elephants.

 

[visions]

LiveFreeX, you are pretty damn funny with a penchant for writing

 

[bmp2cpm]

So when do you give the gift? I never do unless in a committed relationship

Fruitbat,

Sorry for the delay. You give small gifts when you need to reinforce to the woman your willingness to commit in someway.

A gift is a symbolic gesture that shows continued willingness to commit on some level to a woman. Women love this. Do it at the right time and you are golden.

Basically if you have any cause to think the woman is doubting your commitment level. Do it at the right time and it knocks the issue out of the water.

It's not that you have to commit more to her. The gift is a single action of commitment that goes a long way.