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Women want to be led by a man not chased around by a boy. They base their actions on emotions; not logic. This is why you will never win an argument with her: you must appeal to her feelings. When she acts up; withdraw attention. When she behaves; reward her sparingly and intermittently. COVERT COMMUNICATION IS KEY. She knows she is irrational and will forever test your strength to make sure your integrity is not compromised. She wants to feel your masculine energy push back against her. Always remain the immovable oak tree in the face of a hurricane. The more you act like a cool, calm, secure, self-assured man the more she will be an adoring, love-sick, feminine woman.

Pay attention to what she does, not what she says. Start dominating her instead of asking her permission or reassurance. Grab her hand and tell her where you are going. She is a guest in your world and you will continue on with or without her. She wants it that way. Never lose your frame. Never overly talk about your feelings or get emotional; that is for women. You are a man. Never take advice from ANY women on how to treat women: they do not know what makes them tick. Be hot and cold, push and pull, don't text back right away or at all all the time. Look her dead in the eyes and say something outrageous. Tease her. Challenge her. Push her out of her comfort zone. Keep her guessing. Keep her wondering. Never supplicate. Make it known that you have options. NEVER forget who the prize is.

The more you can take her on an emotional roller coaster (happiness, anger, wonder, dread, relief) the more she will become addicted and attracted to you. The more she will think about you and desire you. The more she will "love" you. It's not about money, looks, or what you do for a living. She may ideally want those in a man but they are completely irrelevant if she is not attracted to you. LUST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVE. Women want excitement, they want drama, they want unpredictability, they want to FEEL. Make them jump through hoops for you THEN show her you appreciate her. They don't want everything handed to them on a platter. WOMEN WANT TO EARN YOUR LOVE. THEY WANT TO FEEL THERE IS SOMETHING MORE TO CHASE...FOREVER. It is ingrained in their DNA. Give them that opportunity by being the intoxicating confident jerk with a sprinkle of nice guy here and there. Open then door for her and slap her on the @ss as she walks through. Bring her to the verge of deeming you uncatchable and then do something sweet for reassurance time and time again. Don't be afraid to show her you like her every once in a while. Always do things she may appreciate without expecting anything in return. Always make her believe the best is yet to come.

She will be yours forever.
 
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Great post. I don't know if anyone watches Fresh Prince of Bel Air but there is an episode that shows so much of what is preached here. The episode is called "Community Action".
 

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Good post! I'm actually testing this with a woman who's interested in me but I'm not sure what her IL is right now. It's been months since we saw each other so things have understandably cooled. She kept in touch with me but ignored my recent idea of getting together. So when I saw her a week ago I ignored her. I decided to give push pull a try. She was watching me very closely. Yeah, I feel like I acted like a jerk but in my mind she didn't earn my attention. I'm sure this created some drama and got her hamster wheel spinning. Whether it was a good idea or not remains to be seen. I waited a week after this chance encounter and then called her as if nothing happened. I got her vm but left a message. She's a hard 9 and it'll be interesting to see what her reaction will be. She probably thinks I'm crazy Ha. Oh well, if that's the case, next.
 

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Dgwizdal said:
Women want to be led by a man not chased around by a boy. They base their actions on emotions; not logic. This is why you will never win an argument with her: you must appeal to her feelings. When she acts up; withdraw attention. When she behaves; reward her sparingly and intermittently. COVERT COMMUNICATION IS KEY. She knows she is irrational and will forever test your strength to make sure your integrity is not compromised. She wants to feel your masculine energy push back against her. Always remain the immovable oak tree in the face of a hurricane. The more you act like a cool, calm, secure, self-assured man the more she will be an adoring, love-sick, feminine woman.

Pay attention to what she does, not what she says. Start dominating her instead of asking her permission or reassurance. Grab her hand and tell her where you are going. She is a guest in your world and you will continue on with or without her. She wants it that way. Never lose your frame. Never talk about your feelings or get emotional; that is for women. You are a man. Never take advice from ANY women on how to treat women: they do not know what makes them tick. Be hot and cold, push and pull, don't text back right away or at all. Look her dead in the eyes and say something outrageous. Tease her. Challenge her. Push her out of her comfort zone. Keep her guessing. Keep her wondering. Never supplicate. Make it known that you have options. NEVER forget who the prize is.

The more you can take her on an emotional roller coaster (happiness, anger, wonder, dread, relief) the more she will become addicted and attracted to you. The more she will think about you and desire you. The more she will "love" you. It's not about money, looks, or what you do for a living. She may ideally want those in a man but they are completely irrelevant if she is not attracted to you. LUST IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVE. Women want excitement, they want drama, they want unpredictability, they want to FEEL. Make them jump through hoops for you THEN show her you appreciate her. They don't want everything handed to them on a platter. WOMEN WANT TO EARN YOUR LOVE. THEY WANT TO CHASE YOU...FOREVER. It is ingrained in their DNA. Give them that opportunity by being the intoxicating confident jerk with a sprinkle of nice guy here and there. Open then door for her and slap her on the @ss as she walks through. Bring her to the verge of deeming you uncatchable and then do something sweet for reassurance time and time again. Always make her believe the best is yet to come.

She will be yours forever.
This is pretty much everything you need to know about what women find certain traits in men attractive, and what men should be doing instead of kissing her feet.

This is so many articles on SS in a nutshell, I love it. DJ Bible material right here.
 

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While your post makes some sense OP, you forget something. Many people in general, arent that logical.

I personally believe most men and women are inherently a large mix of emotion and logic. I believe there are very logical men and women out there...but for the most part, many people cannot overcome their emotions all the time.

Part of the reason I dont put much stock into the ole "men are logical, women are emotional" party line, is because all one has to do is look at threads here and look at people around them. Most men, just like most women, get driven by emotion. For some guys its their feelings for a girl, but for many of us, its lust that blinds us. And lust is indeed an emotion.

Wanna know what the best relationships Ive see are? Between a man and a woman who emotionally connect, but are also very logical. I dont think youll get a good relationship without having two people who balance those parts of each of their personas. A man or a woman can be as logical as they want....but if they are dealing with someone whos way more emotional than logical...things wont work imo. They are just two different people in that case.

I think its time for men to stop buying into the whole "men are logical, women are emotional" shpeel....and go find themselves a smart woman whos realistic, practical, and logical (on top of being fun). They are out there. Dont settle on thinking you can manipulate an overly emotional person...because trust me...youll get thrown for a loop despite thinking youre in so much control.

The right woman is the mature woman with a pragmatic approach to how she handles many things. At least for me thats the right woman.

PS - If I have to do a lot of thinking and planning of my behavior with a girl, I wont be dating her. I like something fun and without the headache of thinking I need to be a step ahead of someone or hold their hand like a child through our partnership. If a man is a good judge of character and personality, he should be able to find a mature woman that takes the work out of dating.
 

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Listen to this stuff and your woman will start to look for another man. All these guys say preach the same stuff and none of them can keep a woman around. I tried doing this and it doesn't work. You need a balanced approach with women. Not being a push over is the key. Ignoring her will push her to another guy.
 

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Agree with jaylan and tarkus.. This is good advice for approaching and initially dating a girl, but in terms of being compatible and challenging each other long term it seems very outdated and don draper/1950s ish. I dont want to be married to some doormat who only knows how to cook and clean and wait on me hand and foot. How long does it take to get bored of that and start banging other girls.. A couple months? I want a girl thats intelligent and independent can do her own thing, challenge me and grow together.
 

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Jaylan said:
While your post makes some sense OP, you forget something. Many people in general, arent that logical.

I personally believe most men and women are inherently a large mix of emotion and logic. I believe there are very logical men and women out there...but for the most part, many people cannot overcome their emotions all the time.

Part of the reason I dont put much stock into the ole "men are logical, women are emotional" party line, is because all one has to do is look at threads here and look at people around them. Most men, just like most women, get driven by emotion. For some guys its their feelings for a girl, but for many of us, its lust that blinds us. And lust is indeed an emotion.

Wanna know what the best relationships Ive see are? Between a man and a woman who emotionally connect, but are also very logical. I dont think youll get a good relationship without having two people who balance those parts of each of their personas. A man or a woman can be as logical as they want....but if they are dealing with someone whos way more emotional than logical...things wont work imo. They are just two different people in that case.

I think its time for men to stop buying into the whole "men are logical, women are emotional" shpeel....and go find themselves a smart woman whos realistic, practical, and logical (on top of being fun). They are out there. Dont settle on thinking you can manipulate an overly emotional person...because trust me...youll get thrown for a loop despite thinking youre in so much control.

The right woman is the mature woman with a pragmatic approach to how she handles many things. At least for me thats the right woman.

PS - If I have to do a lot of thinking and planning of my behavior with a girl, I wont be dating her. I like something fun and without the headache of thinking I need to be a step ahead of someone or hold their hand like a child through our partnership. If a man is a good judge of character and personality, he should be able to find a mature woman that takes the work out of dating.
The whole "women are emotional, men are logical" thing is not in regular everyday things.

Yes, we've all seen men can be as emotional as women. Yes, we see it every day on this board. Yes, men seem to be more attached after breakups (which mostly comes from the lack of options most men have following breakups)

The phrase mostly applies to when dealing with resistance/conflict within the relationship. Women are far more prone to have irrational/emotion based conflict resolution habits. Women are far more prone to have illogical reasons for their actions. That's because all they know is they feel that way and the they use cognitive dissonance to fill in the gaps. I've stopped tons of women mid-sentence to ask them "what the fvck does what you're saying have to do with anything we're talking about?"


In a way though. You are right about this not being too much different than a man. If you read Persuasion books - you'll find a lot of things we teach as being how you should influence women - to be the same things taught in these books, and it's not one sex or the other; it's applied to both.

In conflict/resistance with either sex: The hard way is to logically change their opinion. The easy way is to change their state (which is a skill every person can benefit from learning).
 

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TARKUS said:
Listen to this stuff and your woman will start to look for another man. All these guys say preach the same stuff and none of them can keep a woman around. I tried doing this and it doesn't work. You need a balanced approach with women. Not being a push over is the key. Ignoring her will push her to another guy.
It works buddy. Your personal downfalls are the exception; not the rule. And balance is key to an LTR - I will give you that.

Jurry said:
Agree with jaylan and tarkus.. This is good advice for approaching and initially dating a girl, but in terms of being compatible and challenging each other long term it seems very outdated and don draper/1950s ish. I dont want to be married to some doormat who only knows how to cook and clean and wait on me hand and foot. How long does it take to get bored of that and start banging other girls.. A couple months? I want a girl thats intelligent and independent can do her own thing, challenge me and grow together.
This is merely a template to create the maximum amount of interest from a woman that will allow you to take the relationship whichever way you want. It is not a set of constraints to turn your woman into a doormat. Long term Compatibility beyond attraction has no format. You either are or you aren't and can cross that bridge when you get there...
 

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Dgwizdal said:
It works buddy. Your personal downfalls are the exception; not the rule. And balance is key to an LTR - I will give you that.
How many successful LTR's have you had with this advice? This advice is not good for LTR's and you will end up losing your woman. With your advice there is no balance in the LTR. Which is why it doesn't work.
 

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Define successful - if you are not married and on your deathbed with your wife, your relationships are a fail. I have had plenty of relationships and plates. The last paragraph is about when to reassure her, show her appreciation, and be a nice guy when she earns it. Make her earn your love. Not push her away forever. Maybe you're reading it wrong or only identifying with the things you feel contributed to your relationship's demise. I added a few things in order to get the point across about balance... I too was in your position until I learned that reassurance is crucial to find the right balance for an LTR. Regardless, as with any advice, shoot for the stars and hope they land on the moon...
 
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TARKUS said:
How many successful LTR's have you had with this advice? This advice is not good for LTR's and you will end up losing your woman. With your advice there is no balance in the LTR. Which is why it doesn't work.
It works. If it doesn't work for you then you've leaned too far over. Like Dgwizdal said, balance is key. I'm married, I do this sh!t to my wife all the time. It's basically just acting like you did on the playground when you were 10 years old. Lead, tease and don't take them seriously.
 

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JoeMarron said:
It works. If it doesn't work for you then you've leaned too far over. Like Dgwizdal said, balance is key. I'm married, I do this sh!t to my wife all the time. It's basically just acting like you did on the playground when you were 10 years old. Lead, tease and don't take them seriously.
You should learn how to read a lot better. The stuff he edited out twice I said didn't work and it doesn't. Not every man and woman are the same which is what he was saying doesn't work. I'm the one who said balance is the key. He agreed with me on that. Yes, a man is supposed to lead. I disagreed with what he edited out not what he freshly added in after I disagreed.
 

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TARKUS said:
Not every man and woman are the same
This is the problem with getting advice about "women." Everyone's different. Some women like men who lead, some women like to lead.

The point is ... who cares? Be the person that YOU think is the right person to be.
 

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this should be stickied at the top and required reading after new users register.
 

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Dgwizdal said:
Look her dead in the eyes and say something outrageous. Tease her. Challenge her. Push her out of her comfort zone. Keep her guessing. Keep her wondering. Never supplicate

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Don't be afraid to show her you like her every once in a while
These are the things I've learned. Especially the last part, most importantly. There's a lot on here about being indifferent - but you can't be TOO indifferent, otherwise she will think you are unobtainable and she will just start ignoring you.
 

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Zarky said:
This is the problem with getting advice about "women." Everyone's different. Some women like men who lead, some women like to lead.

The point is ... who cares? Be the person that YOU think is the right person to be.
For years, I thought being a nice, beta, supplicating guy was the right person to be. Turns out it wasn't.
 

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Just a follow up. I hope I'm not hijacking this thread. I said I was field testing this concept. As it turns out the woman I ignored called me yesterday. I didn't take her call but she left a message. If she's interested in me why didn't she just reply to my text to get together? I obviously don't understand women yet.
 
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