What is the true nature of attraction? I am often ambivalent about this myself. This is ultimately the root the contention between the so called "AFC"s and the so called "cynical" guys like Str8up. Holligan, Trent etc.
Camp 1:
Attraction is a deeply psychological phenomenon that is largely unpredictable. This camp implies that there is no deliberate decision that a woman makes to become attracted to a man. Her decision is made largely within the first few seconds of meeting or noticing you. They claim that whether a girl is into you or not is largely out of your control ( remember Anti Dump or DeAngelo). This philosophy gives credibility to the people who say money and looks really don't matter too much. They are just iceing on the cake. In all honestly i have seen example of this play out many times in real life. I mean we all know the common phenomenon of a hot girl with a loser boyfriend who sits on the couch all day and plays video games. We all had girl that just was "attracted to us" no for no apparent reason. There are plenty of examples of successful women going after losers (not marrying, but screwing regularly). These guys are pretty average looking to tell you the truth. These guys are not really even that "alpha". Kinda like Casino ( i know its a movie, but when DeNiro's wife who had everything was still deeply in love with the scumbag loser pimp who had nada). Many of these guys have self destructive tendencies really, aka bad boys types, emo losers, broke artsy dudes to plain ol average joes. If you ask the female why do you like this guy so much when you could get just abut any other guy... 9 outa 10 times they say " i dont know, i just do, i wish i didnt". They have no rational explanation for it. Many times the girl will admit that the guy isnt even attractive or her type thus supporting the view attraction is not a choice and deeply psychological.
Camp 2:
Money, looks, power, and overall dominance will get u women more reliably than anything else. This is the Str8UP, Holligan, Trent etc crew ( btw i really value u guys more practical opinion on things, most of the time i wholeheartedly agree with your more realistic views). There are a TON of examples of this also. Go to any rock concert, football game or club and you will see this in action. There's a reason why women want to marry the rocker,doctor, lawyer, CEO, athlete. The catch is by agreeing with this viewpoint you have to agree that the nature of attraction in women is largely logical and deliberate. That women turn off or on their attraction based on status and resources. If you are this camp then how do u explain the examples of hot women going out with loser to average boy friends. Are these truly exceptions to the rule? How do you also explain chicks that dig you for no apparent reason at all (rare but it happens) and we have all had these types of girls once or twice.
This is an important question to answer because i think its the cause of many of the conflicts on this site. Its also a fundamental question for any man. I think the truth is in the middle. I think that both camps are making something that is very complex into a cut and dry matter. For every instance of a chick being attracted to a high status male there is an instance of a chick just being attracted to a regular guys. Im starting to believe attraction is just one of those things that is largely unpredictable and mysterious. This is the whole basis of when women say they just felt or didnt feel any "chemistry". Its largely mysterious. Like Rollo eludes to, attraction is a chemical thing. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE (THIS IS VERY DELIBERATE).
Camp 1:
Attraction is a deeply psychological phenomenon that is largely unpredictable. This camp implies that there is no deliberate decision that a woman makes to become attracted to a man. Her decision is made largely within the first few seconds of meeting or noticing you. They claim that whether a girl is into you or not is largely out of your control ( remember Anti Dump or DeAngelo). This philosophy gives credibility to the people who say money and looks really don't matter too much. They are just iceing on the cake. In all honestly i have seen example of this play out many times in real life. I mean we all know the common phenomenon of a hot girl with a loser boyfriend who sits on the couch all day and plays video games. We all had girl that just was "attracted to us" no for no apparent reason. There are plenty of examples of successful women going after losers (not marrying, but screwing regularly). These guys are pretty average looking to tell you the truth. These guys are not really even that "alpha". Kinda like Casino ( i know its a movie, but when DeNiro's wife who had everything was still deeply in love with the scumbag loser pimp who had nada). Many of these guys have self destructive tendencies really, aka bad boys types, emo losers, broke artsy dudes to plain ol average joes. If you ask the female why do you like this guy so much when you could get just abut any other guy... 9 outa 10 times they say " i dont know, i just do, i wish i didnt". They have no rational explanation for it. Many times the girl will admit that the guy isnt even attractive or her type thus supporting the view attraction is not a choice and deeply psychological.
Camp 2:
Money, looks, power, and overall dominance will get u women more reliably than anything else. This is the Str8UP, Holligan, Trent etc crew ( btw i really value u guys more practical opinion on things, most of the time i wholeheartedly agree with your more realistic views). There are a TON of examples of this also. Go to any rock concert, football game or club and you will see this in action. There's a reason why women want to marry the rocker,doctor, lawyer, CEO, athlete. The catch is by agreeing with this viewpoint you have to agree that the nature of attraction in women is largely logical and deliberate. That women turn off or on their attraction based on status and resources. If you are this camp then how do u explain the examples of hot women going out with loser to average boy friends. Are these truly exceptions to the rule? How do you also explain chicks that dig you for no apparent reason at all (rare but it happens) and we have all had these types of girls once or twice.
This is an important question to answer because i think its the cause of many of the conflicts on this site. Its also a fundamental question for any man. I think the truth is in the middle. I think that both camps are making something that is very complex into a cut and dry matter. For every instance of a chick being attracted to a high status male there is an instance of a chick just being attracted to a regular guys. Im starting to believe attraction is just one of those things that is largely unpredictable and mysterious. This is the whole basis of when women say they just felt or didnt feel any "chemistry". Its largely mysterious. Like Rollo eludes to, attraction is a chemical thing. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE (THIS IS VERY DELIBERATE).