Why Nichemaxxing beats Gymaxxing & Game

[CornbreadFed]

Certainly, let's structure and refine the scenario:

Scenario:

Three men, each with a 7/10 in looks, adopt distinct strategies as they navigate a social mixer event brimming with opportunities to connect with single women.

Individual Profiles:

Guy A - Applying Hobbymaxxing: With a focus on "hobbymaxing," Guy A channels his energy into embodying the persona of a millennial hipster. His interests include hiking, nature exploration, coffee culture, and a commitment to a vegan lifestyle.

Guy B - Applying Gymaxxing: Opting for a "gymmax" approach, Guy B dedicates himself solely to maximizing physical gains. His identity revolves around rigorous fitness routines and sculpting his physique to peak perfection.

Guy C - Applying Cold Approach & Game: Immersing himself in the world of dating strategy, Guy C delves deep into resources such as pickup artistry, game theory, and cold approaching techniques to enhance his social interactions and dating prospects.

Likely Outcomes:

Guy C: Armed with strategic PUA knowledge with the energy to cold approach, Guy C embarks on a mass approach strategy, engaging numerous women throughout the event. Despite securing a few numbers, his efforts encounter setbacks, including an encounter with an intoxicated woman and her protective friends. Undeterred by such obstacles, Guy C resolves to continue his pursuit at future venues.

Guy B: Upon entering the event, Guy B's confidence takes a hit upon noticing the attention garnered by more muscular men. He musters the courage to approach a woman, initiating a conversation. However, his efforts are swiftly derailed as the woman abruptly ends their interaction upon spotting a lean muscular Chad she knows, leaving Guy B feeling dismissed and disheartened. Frustrated by the perceived competition, Guy B decides to leave the event prematurely, feeling overshadowed by those he perceives as more socially dominant.

Guy A: Exhibiting keen observational skills, Guy A identifies a woman wearing a memento indicative of a shared passion for national parks. Capitalizing on this shared interest, he strikes up a conversation that evolves into a meaningful connection. Recognizing mutual attraction, Guy A suggests a quieter setting for further interaction, which is met with enthusiasm by the woman. Guy A ends the night at her place.

Conclusion:

Guy B emerges as the least successful, as his reliance solely on physical attributes proves insufficient in fostering meaningful connections. His departure underscores the limitations of a one-dimensional approach to social interaction. Women do not his inane spartan lifestyle attractive and he lacks the conversational skills to navigate efficiently because all he does is go to the gym and consume RP content. The only women that will give him a chance are desperate overweight women and Jezebels.

Guy C, while demonstrating strategic prowess, faces setbacks that highlight the transient nature of his conquests. His persistence is commendable, but the constant effort required in his approach raises questions about long-term sustainability.

Guy A emerges as the clear winner, leveraging shared interests to forge a genuine connection with another person. His focus on authenticity and meaningful interaction not only leads to a fulfilling encounter but also sets the foundation for potential future relationships. In this scenario, quality triumphs over quantity, with Guy A's approach yielding the most satisfying outcome.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

At the end of the day luck and being in the right place at the right time probably play a much bigger factor than anything else.

The thing nobody bothers mentioning.

 

[Money & Muscle]

In my experience as a man with muscles and no game/no hobbies, muscles alone are not enough.

They get you looks, attention, and sometimes people seek your approval because of them, but they do nothing by themselves.

 

[Solomon]

At the end of the day luck and being in the right place at the right time probably play a much bigger factor than anything else.

The thing nobody bothers mentioning.

Don't disagree with you there brother, however nichemaxxing is a real thing.
Years ago I knew this black gentleman who would dress like Neo in The Matrix except with a whip, he was all about the goth lifestyle and loved big booty white goth chicks. He would go to goth clubs (and regular ones) etc.

Whats my point? my point is he had a type and he knew where to find them lmfaoo

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Unless you are a body building pro, you should be able to balance workouts with hobbies.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Don't disagree with you there brother, however nichemaxxing is a real thing.
Years ago I knew this black gentleman who would dress like Neo in The Matrix except with a whip, he was all about the goth lifestyle and loved big booty white goth chicks. He would go to goth clubs (and regular ones) etc.

Whats my point? my point is he had a type and he knew where to find them lmfaoo

But I mean how hard is it to get fat white chicks?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

At the end of the day luck and being in the right place at the right time probably play a much bigger factor than anything else.

And you can increase the frequency of those "right time right place" scenarios by being in shape, working on your social skills, and having a few interesting hobbies.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

At the end of the day luck and being in the right place at the right time probably play a much bigger factor than anything else.

No, the biggest factor is a man's ability to relate to women on an emotional level to form intimate connections.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

No, the biggest factor is a man's ability to relate to women on an emotional level to form intimate connections.

Which necessitates finding a woman who is receptive to that which goes back to point 1. If you meet women who are not available for whatever reason, all of that doesn't mean anything. You could be the pimp of the decade but if she is in love with the guy she is with none of that matters.

The first thing you have to do is to meet a woman who is available. Which neccessitates being in the right place and the right time and luck. Then your point matters.

Maybe you ran into the woman 3 days before she found out her boyfriend cheated on her and turned you down but if you ran into her today she would be mad and be willing to fvck you for revenge. That's luck and timing. None of that has anything to do with skill.

 

[SW15]

Wheat Waffles did a video on nichemaxxing.....

 

[MatureDJ]

Certainly, let's structure and refine the scenario:

Scenario:

Three men, each with a 7/10 in looks, adopt distinct strategies as they navigate a social mixer event brimming with opportunities to connect with single women.

Individual Profiles:

Guy A - Applying Hobbymaxxing: With a focus on "hobbymaxing," Guy A channels his energy into embodying the persona of a millennial hipster. His interests include hiking, nature exploration, coffee culture, and a commitment to a vegan lifestyle.

Guy B - Applying Gymaxxing: Opting for a "gymmax" approach, Guy B dedicates himself solely to maximizing physical gains. His identity revolves around rigorous fitness routines and sculpting his physique to peak perfection.

Guy C - Applying Cold Approach & Game: Immersing himself in the world of dating strategy, Guy C delves deep into resources such as pickup artistry, game theory, and cold approaching techniques to enhance his social interactions and dating prospects.

Likely Outcomes:

Guy C: Armed with strategic PUA knowledge with the energy to cold approach, Guy C embarks on a mass approach strategy, engaging numerous women throughout the event. Despite securing a few numbers, his efforts encounter setbacks, including an encounter with an intoxicated woman and her protective friends. Undeterred by such obstacles, Guy C resolves to continue his pursuit at future venues.

Guy B: Upon entering the event, Guy B's confidence takes a hit upon noticing the attention garnered by more muscular men. He musters the courage to approach a woman, initiating a conversation. However, his efforts are swiftly derailed as the woman abruptly ends their interaction upon spotting a lean muscular Chad she knows, leaving Guy B feeling dismissed and disheartened. Frustrated by the perceived competition, Guy B decides to leave the event prematurely, feeling overshadowed by those he perceives as more socially dominant.

Guy A: Exhibiting keen observational skills, Guy A identifies a woman wearing a memento indicative of a shared passion for national parks. Capitalizing on this shared interest, he strikes up a conversation that evolves into a meaningful connection. Recognizing mutual attraction, Guy A suggests a quieter setting for further interaction, which is met with enthusiasm by the woman. Guy A ends the night at her place.

Conclusion:

Guy B emerges as the least successful, as his reliance solely on physical attributes proves insufficient in fostering meaningful connections. His departure underscores the limitations of a one-dimensional approach to social interaction. Women do not his inane spartan lifestyle attractive and he lacks the conversational skills to navigate efficiently because all he does is go to the gym and consume RP content. The only women that will give him a chance are desperate overweight women and Jezebels.

Guy C, while demonstrating strategic prowess, faces setbacks that highlight the transient nature of his conquests. His persistence is commendable, but the constant effort required in his approach raises questions about long-term sustainability.

Guy A emerges as the clear winner, leveraging shared interests to forge a genuine connection with another person. His focus on authenticity and meaningful interaction not only leads to a fulfilling encounter but also sets the foundation for potential future relationships. In this scenario, quality triumphs over quantity, with Guy A's approach yielding the most satisfying outcome.

How about doing the best of all 3? Having a Beta-tier physique beats having a Gamma-tier one. Sure, look for a gal in which there is a better chance of success, but don't let waiting the highest-probability rate of success stop you from going after other targets.

 

[MatureDJ]

Don't disagree with you there brother, however nichemaxxing is a real thing.
Years ago I knew this black gentleman who would dress like Neo in The Matrix except with a whip, he was all about the goth lifestyle and loved big booty white goth chicks. He would go to goth clubs (and regular ones) etc.

Whats my point? my point is he had a type and he knew where to find them lmfaoo

I could see a sister telling him, "boy, do you want to go back to the plantation so much that you've brought your own whip?"

 

[MatureDJ]

Wheat Waffles did a video on nichemaxxing.....

I like the way that he explained the benefits of increasing the sigma coefficient (he didn't say it like that, but instead "flattening the [bell] curve" ). My NicheMaxxing is mainly to show high intellect, and try to go for women that are also of high intellect, that way I can sneak in at the right side of the bell curve. Of course, this is congruent with my own taste in women - in the same way it is to Elon Musk - but as we;; with the sigma coefficient for my height component being so negative, I need all the help I can get.

 

[SW15]

with the sigma coefficient for my height component being so negative, I need all the help I can get.

You would need a lot of money to offset your height, especially if you stayed in the United States.

 

[CornbreadFed]

How about doing the best of all 3? Having a Beta-tier physique beats having a Gamma-tier one. Sure, look for a gal in which there is a better chance of success, but don't let waiting the highest-probability rate of success stop you from going after other targets.

Let’s say they each get laid? Guy A still wins because he comes out of the party with a life long memory and potential partner. The best case scenario for Guy B is the Jezebel sticks around after a ONS. Guy C is just trying to get laid, so it is pretty monotonous in retrospect.

 

[SW15]

social mixer event

Structured singles event? Those events are usually lousy (see below). If it's a generalized mixer event, then maybe it's worth attending.

Are Structured Singles Events a Waste of Time?

Mostly every unattached person has dealt with this. The potential invitation to a "singles event" or "singles mixer". It is a chance for unattached people to meet. It's not a general night out at a bar, which has unattached people interspersed with attached people. Everyone here is unattached by...

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Guy A - Applying Hobbymaxxing: With a focus on "hobbymaxing," Guy A channels his energy into embodying the persona of a millennial hipster. His interests include hiking, nature exploration, coffee culture, and a commitment to a vegan lifestyle.

Guy B - Applying Gymaxxing: Opting for a "gymmax" approach, Guy B dedicates himself solely to maximizing physical gains. His identity revolves around rigorous fitness routines and sculpting his physique to peak perfection.

Guy C - Applying Cold Approach & Game: Immersing himself in the world of dating strategy, Guy C delves deep into resources such as pickup artistry, game theory, and cold approaching techniques to enhance his social interactions and dating prospects.

Guy B has 'Chad' potential. He might have a physique similar to @sangheilios (6'4", 230 lbs, muscular). If Guy B is 6'0"+ and muscular, he might not have to do much in order to get laid. Women are drawn to his physique. There is no way Guy B is a 7/10 at 6'0" with bigger muscles. He moves up to around an 8+.

Guy C would be above average looks but try to succeed on charisma. That's a worse spot than Guy B.

Likely Outcomes:

Guy C: Armed with strategic PUA knowledge with the energy to cold approach, Guy C embarks on a mass approach strategy, engaging numerous women throughout the event. Despite securing a few numbers, his efforts encounter setbacks, including an encounter with an intoxicated woman and her protective friends. Undeterred by such obstacles, Guy C resolves to continue his pursuit at future venues.

Guy B: Upon entering the event, Guy B's confidence takes a hit upon noticing the attention garnered by more muscular men. He musters the courage to approach a woman, initiating a conversation. However, his efforts are swiftly derailed as the woman abruptly ends their interaction upon spotting a lean muscular Chad she knows, leaving Guy B feeling dismissed and disheartened. Frustrated by the perceived competition, Guy B decides to leave the event prematurely, feeling overshadowed by those he perceives as more socially dominant.

Guy A: Exhibiting keen observational skills, Guy A identifies a woman wearing a memento indicative of a shared passion for national parks. Capitalizing on this shared interest, he strikes up a conversation that evolves into a meaningful connection. Recognizing mutual attraction, Guy A suggests a quieter setting for further interaction, which is met with enthusiasm by the woman. Guy A ends the night at her place.

Conclusion:

Guy B emerges as the least successful, as his reliance solely on physical attributes proves insufficient in fostering meaningful connections. His departure underscores the limitations of a one-dimensional approach to social interaction. Women do not his inane spartan lifestyle attractive and he lacks the conversational skills to navigate efficiently because all he does is go to the gym and consume RP content. The only women that will give him a chance are desperate overweight women and Jezebels.

Guy C, while demonstrating strategic prowess, faces setbacks that highlight the transient nature of his conquests. His persistence is commendable, but the constant effort required in his approach raises questions about long-term sustainability.

Guy A emerges as the clear winner, leveraging shared interests to forge a genuine connection with another person. His focus on authenticity and meaningful interaction not only leads to a fulfilling encounter but also sets the foundation for potential future relationships. In this scenario, quality triumphs over quantity, with Guy A's approach yielding the most satisfying outcome.

While Guy B might not get laid on one night at one event, his top tier physique will help him generate a good number of prospects over a long period of time. It won't be with desperate overweight women either. He will get some good looking pussie from various forms of thots. That's not a bad lifestyle.

If Guy A nichemaxxes well, he might get ahead of Guy B, but I'd rather be an un-niched 6'0"+ guy with big muscles. An un-niched 6'0"+ with big muscles can get laid with fitness influencers, breastaurant workers/sexy bartenders, strippers, and other nightlife/Instagram thots.

Guy C does have strategic prowess but will likely need to do massive quantities of approaches over time. You're correct about the sustainability of his efforts.

 

[CornbreadFed]

While Guy B might not get laid on one night at one event, his top tier physique will help him generate a good number of prospects over a long period of time. It won't be with desperate overweight women either. He will get some good looking pussie from various forms of thots. That's not a bad lifestyle.

Muscles won't serve as a panacea for deficiencies in personality, financial stability, or other competitive advantages. Your stereotypical muscle-bound individual scoring with women often possesses a bad boy or alpha male persona, or supplements his physique with other desirable traits.

Your run-of-the-mill gymcel, however, often embodies the archetype of the deadbeat bitter nerd, lacking substance beyond physical appearance. Moreover, the benefits of muscle gain primarily benefit those hindered by weight or height issues. For the average skinny guy with already decent facial & body aesthetics, bulking up won't necessarily move the needle much.

Consider this scenario: An individual rates a solid 7/10 in attractiveness, with facial aesthetics at their peak. Adding muscle might bump him to an 8/10 at best. Yet, lacking in personality and charm, he could find himself in a worse position overall.

Now, let's illustrate with a burger analogy. Imagine you're out of town, craving a burger. You have three options: Place A boasts top-notch ratings being the town favorite, Place B earns an 8/10 with good but pricey food, and Place C, despite mixed reviews, offers decent food at a lower cost and is right across the street from your hotel. You'd likely opt for Place A or C willingly, settling for Place B if necessary.

Similarly, in the dating world, women have preferences. The gym enthusiast fails to cater to any niche, appealing only to the "this will do" crowd or those with limited options. Despite his enhanced physique, he often loses out to "Chads" and others whose looks are prioritized. He also misses the mark with women seeking specific traits or providers, leaving him with a limited pool of prospects, primarily consisting of intoxicated bimbos just looking for sex or overweight women lacking the privileges of having a preference.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Guy B has 'Chad' potential. He might have a physique similar to @sangheilios (6'4", 230 lbs, muscular). If Guy B is 6'0"+ and muscular, he might not have to do much in order to get laid. Women are drawn to his physique. There is no way Guy B is a 7/10 at 6'0" with bigger muscles. He moves up to around an 8+.

In the case of Guy B, standing tall at 6'4", he's already capitalizing on niche maxing by catering to women with a preference for taller men. While muscles may indeed enhance his appeal, it's essential to acknowledge that his height is his primary advantage. In fact, I'd wager ten bucks that Guy B would face more significant challenges if he were to shrink below 5'10" than if he were to maintain his stature but lose his muscular build.

To clarify, let's elevate Guy B's status to an 8/10 due to his commitment to gymaxxing. This adjustment underscores the significance of his physical transformation and highlights his newfound appeal in the dating scene.

 

[SW15]

In the case of Guy B, standing tall at 6'4", he's already capitalizing on niche maxing by catering to women with a preference for taller men. While muscles may indeed enhance his appeal, it's essential to acknowledge that his height is his primary advantage. In fact, I'd wager ten bucks that Guy B would face more significant challenges if he were to shrink below 5'10" than if he were to maintain his stature but lose his muscular build.

To clarify, let's elevate Guy B's status to an 8/10 due to his commitment to gymaxxing. This adjustment underscores the significance of his physical transformation and highlights his newfound appeal in the dating scene.

The gym enthusiast fails to cater to any niche, appealing only to the "this will do" crowd or those with limited options. Despite his enhanced physique, he often loses out to "Chads" and others whose looks are prioritized. He also misses the mark with women seeking specific traits or providers, leaving him with a limited pool of prospects, primarily consisting of intoxicated bimbos just looking for sex or overweight women lacking the privileges of having a preference.

The gym enthusiast might actually be in 'Chad' territory. It depends upon how good his physique is. If the gym enthusiast is 6'0"+ and has big muscles, that's an 8+. If he reaches 8.5+, that's a legit 'Chad'. Height + muscles is a combination that is difficult to beat.

If a muscular guy is having sex with attractive bimbos, I do not consider that a bad thing. This is a guy who might be having sex with a Hooters/Twin Peaks Girl, stripper, or other Instagram influencer thot. That's solid.

Your Guy A does have a great niche and Guy C is a high volume approacher who is likely to burn out at some point.

Muscles won't serve as a panacea for deficiencies in personality, financial stability, or other competitive advantages. Your stereotypical muscle-bound individual scoring with women often possesses a bad boy or alpha male persona, or supplements his physique with other desirable traits.

Muscles + height are the ideal combination. Besides muscles, there needs to be another trait to help like money or height.

"Money, muscles, and game" -Rollo Tomassi

 

[CornbreadFed]

The gym enthusiast might actually be in 'Chad' territory. It depends upon how good his physique is. If the gym enthusiast is 6'0"+ and has big muscles, that's an 8+. If he reaches 8.5+, that's a legit 'Chad'. Height + muscles is a combination that is difficult to beat.

I do not think he is because he does not have the facial aesthetics of a Chad. His body is maxed out, but his face is nothing to write home about. He is more of a bro not a Chad.

If a muscular guy is having sex with attractive bimbos, I do not consider that a bad thing. This is a guy who might be having sex with a Hooters/Twin Peaks Girl, stripper, or other Instagram influencer thot. That's solid.

In the realm of dating dynamics, it's common for attractive women to already be in relationships, pursuing individuals who fit the "Chad" archetype, or possessing specific preferences beyond physical appearance due to their ample choices. More than likely, an openly attractive woman may have certain traits or circumstances that deter high-value men from pursuing her as a potential partner.

Moreover, the women in this situation are likely to be, at best, of average appearance. Consequently, the gymcel's prospects in this scenario are limited. However, there may be a glimmer of hope if he encounters an attractive woman with a strong racial preference that aligns with his own background. Either way, pointless sex does get old after you have it plenty of times.

Muscles + height are the ideal combination. Besides muscles, there needs to be another trait to help like money or height.

"Money, muscles, and game" -Rollo Tomassi

I agree, but I would rather be 6ft 4 and scrawny over 5'8 and muscular lol.