What is this "taxation is theft" meme I read from american users on twitter?

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Is it related to the founding fathers and the revolution against britain?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Is it related to the founding fathers and the revolution against britain?

It's related to ignorant people with low IQs

 

[BillyPilgrim]

It's related to ignorant people with low IQs

More accurately, it's a mix of below-average IQ people and high IQ people who have done research.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

More accurately, it's a mix of below-average IQ people and high IQ people who have done research.

Research on what exactly? Made up bull****!t?

 

[Money & Muscle]

It's just an overly reductive argument about the tax system being utterly broken.

We work jobs to get money.
This money gets taxed.
The money we have left, we get to spend on goods, that are taxed.
So that we can drive our car, which we pay taxes on, to the gas station to buy gas, that is taxed.
To go back to work so we can sell things that are taxed to other people.

You worked yourself into an early grave trying to provide a comfortable life for your children? That money is getting taxed, even though it's already been taxed, and you've already paid taxes on the interest that this money has made.

So taxes aren't really theft, but it certainly feels like it. Especially when these clowns we call "politicians" spend our tax money on sh*t we don't agree with, while they evade taxes better than everyone else.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Europeans pay taxes to have adequate public transportation, reliable infrastructure, Trustable Public Safety, Education, and etc.

Americans pay taxes to have little to no public Transportation, unreliable infrastructure, law enforcement that is more stupid speed traps rather than protecting and serving, lackluster education, long lines at grocery stores because EBT/Food Stamp moms have 2 full carts of junk food, and a military that has won a war since WW2

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Europeans pay taxes to have adequate public transportation, reliable infrastructure, Trustable Public Safety, Education, and etc.

Americans pay taxes to have little to no public Transportation, unreliable infrastructure, law enforcement that is more stupid speed traps rather than protecting and serving, lackluster education, long lines at grocery stores because EBT/Food Stamp moms have 2 full carts of junk food, and a military that has won a war since WW2

I'm afraid you are 15 years back in time, maybe 20.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It's funny people in the US are the ones who complain the most yet we are one of the least taxed countries in the world.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I'm afraid you are 15 years back in time, maybe 20.

I was just there lol. I don't remember seeing a pot hole or any BS on the road.

 

[CornbreadFed]

It's funny people in the US are the ones who complain the most yet we are one of the least taxed countries in the world.

20 Countries with the Lowest Income Tax Rates in the World (msn.com)

Anything to back up this claim?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

20 Countries with the Lowest Income Tax Rates in the World (msn.com)

Anything to back up this claim?

So you post a link with mostly poor countries that have little income to tax and countries that are major oil exporters.

How about virtually every other country in Europe, Canada and normal countries that have a GDP of more than $10K?

 

[zekko]

Not all taxation is theft, but a good deal of it is. Why should money be taken from me to pay off someone else's student loans? Why should money be taken from me to house people who entered the country illegally in hotels? I could go on but you get the idea.

 

[Bokanovsky]

It's funny people in the US are the ones who complain the most yet we are one of the least taxed countries in the world.

Why is it funny? Those two things are directly related.

 

[CornbreadFed]

So you post a link with mostly poor countries that have little income to tax and countries that are major oil exporters.

How about virtually every other country in Europe, Canada and normal countries that have a GDP of more than $10K?


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So we are not one of the least taxed countries in the world then. In addition, total tax revenue as a share of gdp does not tell the full story. However, my main issue is that for the amount of taxes that I am paying, I feel like I am not receiving any value from paying them. For example, I can go to East Jabib, France and personal transportation not be a necessity, worry about a pot whole or road hazard fvcking up my car, and having to worry about a healthcare scare.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Part of the issue here is that people talk about taxes in different ways.

I don’t count corporate taxes or taxes on anything other than marginal tax rates on individual income. Most people arguing for lower taxes are going to use figures that include all types of taxation even on corporations, which makes their story sound more compelling.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

So taxes aren't really theft,

It's more like extortion...

 

[Money & Muscle]

It's more like extortion...

That or racketeering.

"Pay us money for your safety... from us."

 

[EyeBRollin]

Not all taxation is theft, but a good deal of it is. Why should money be taken from me to pay off someone else's student loans? Why should money be taken from me to house people who entered the country illegally in hotels? I could go on but you get the idea.

Why should I pay for other people’s children to go to school? I don’t have kids. Etc etc etc.

Taxes are necessary in this society. I don’t complain about them. Some countries don’t even have running water or paved roads.

 

[Money & Muscle]

Taxes are necessary in this society. I don’t complain about them. Some countries don’t even have running water or paved roads.

Didn't we pass a 6.6 trillion dollar "infrastructure" bill recently? I haven't seen much improvement on the roads, and I'm pretty sure the water in Flint is still undrinkable.

Taxes are necessary, but the way they're used is absolutely asinine.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Didn't we pass a 6.6 trillion dollar "infrastructure" bill recently? I haven't seen much improvement on the roads, and I'm pretty sure the water in Flint is still undrinkable.

No, $6.6 trillion was the asked for amount. Only $1.2 trillion was passed by Congress. Just a $5 trillion difference.. no biggie.

I’ve seen modest improvements. Some major projects got funded. Near me Newark Airport got a brand new terminal and Amtrak / NJ Transit is finally getting Gateway tunnels passed.