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Adapt as in do whatever women want men to do?Adapt or Be Lonely
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Adapt as in do whatever women want men to do?Adapt or Be Lonely
His post is spot on and he touched on the reasons why the West enforced monogamy: to unlock the productivity of the masses of men, give them a stake in the future (families), and to make society stable.I love this guy
Great post and spot the f-ck on here. I don’t want to antagonize anyone here but I’m getting very tired of rage/man-shame/vengeance posting.Men shouting down other men who are talking about this... labelling them as incels or insecure or whatever the feminists churn out of their wheel of machiavellianism, is playing into the hands of the feminists.
Nope Adapt in finding a solution to your problem, whether it's women, money etcAdapt as in do whatever women want men to do?
Back when pre-Woke Askmen had a message board in the late 2000s, I recall one of the moderators observing that many fellas there had a "Woe Is Me" mindset, the likes of which they clung to tighter than a newborn's jaw clings to her mother's nipple. All that's changed today:I understand the frustration with dating because it can be challenging and is meant to be a journey filled with highs and lows. What is annoying, however, is hearing men complain about trivial matters that are unlikely to change or could easily be replaced with other concerns, and it seems to be getting worse. At the end of the day, we are all pursuing the same women, whether it's at a university, bar, online dating platform, grocery store, mall, or elsewhere—and someone is fvcking them. If you genuinely believe that altering the world to the extent that it negatively affects civil rights, civil liberties, life expectancy, overall health, national and international stability, and peace is the solution to your female problems, then there's a serious problem at hand. You are not struggling because of 'Chad & Tyrone,' Instagram, Tinder, Joe Biden, Feminism, TikTok, or any other external factors. You are struggling because your attitude and demeanor is akin to fresh dog shvt in the summer sun. My advice? Take a six-month hiatus from dating and any content related to the 'manosphere' on the internet to recalibrate your mindset.
Too complain is human, we've just lost the art of doing so effectively https://www.npr.org/2006/09/13/6066543/the-joys-and-perils-of-whining-at-workI think conflating all conversation about the subject under the umbrella as "complaining" is bvll****. Yes, plenty of men are complaining, and that does nothing. But plenty of other men are Discussing, and this something that must happen... and it wouldn't happen if men weren't complaining.
We can't act like we aren't a failed state going warp speed into the most extreme version of a hypergamous global marketplace in history. We are, and it's genuinely bad for society - and men disproportionately suffer from this.
Men shouting down other men who are talking about this... labelling them as incels or insecure or whatever the feminists churn out of their wheel of machiavellianism, is playing into the hands of the feminists.
We need to get real. Men are replaceable and the further technology advances - the more replaceable we become. At the current rate, we're less than 100 years away from a dystopian future where 99% of male babies are killed off, and the 1% is used for genetically superior sperm. If you're on this site, you're not the 1%.
We've been stabbing ourselves through the f-cking jugular, by continuing to think in terms of "solutions"(Which implies there's a permanent "fix" to complex social ills)rather than reducing human suffering for the greatest number of peopleI do agree that by now most complaints are well known. I've heard it all, seen it all by now. I've also stopped watching redpill content, because it's extremely repetitive.
Its time for solutions.
I don't see how it's a good thing. Certainly not in relationships. And as far as approaching men and conveying interests I don't find most of those relationship material. In fact I'm skeptical of them.The ‘empowerment’ of women hasn’t been all bad. I think the increased confidence of women has made them more aggressive and forward with men. And that’s a good thing.
Humans are unique in that we can , in mass, create societal rules or adopt behaviors that actually go against evolutionary principles. We have broken out the traditional evolutionary pathway, and it’s exciting and scary at the same time.Adapt as in do whatever women want men to do?
There were a number of measures the West took to have most men able to get a home, wife, and kids if they wanted to do so. Not all, but most. But sure, not every man got those and some died incel.We've been stabbing ourselves through the f-cking jugular, by continuing to think in terms of "solutions"(Which implies there's a permanent "fix" to complex social ills)rather than reducing human suffering for the greatest number of people
See the results of polygamous society. And the results of this maladaptive scenario are so obvious to anyone with half a brain, including broken homes, single mothers, men who will never have families, and all the social pathologies that come from them: increased suicide, academic failure, financial shortcoming, prison sentences, drug use, and so on. You want to keep pushing into chartered territory?But also a blessing because we continue pushing forward in uncharted territory.
On an individual level one HAS to find a solution either way.We've been stabbing ourselves through the f-cking jugular, by continuing to think in terms of "solutions"(Which implies there's a permanent "fix" to complex social ills)rather than reducing human suffering for the greatest number of people
No, we're not.At the end of the day, we are all pursuing the same women,
Is not that I personally want to. I also suffer from all those things. That said, I think there’s no stopping the beast in long term. Society will keep changing and changing. That doesn’t necessarily stop a young man from trying to make the most with what he has at his disposal. Forget how easy was for your father, push forward in ways that might or not be creative, and unique, wage war against the establishment, or even quit. All valid choices to a problem that has no quick solutionSee the results of polygamous society. And the results of this maladaptive scenario are so obvious to anyone with half a brain, including broken homes, single mothers, men who will never have families, and all the social pathologies that come from them: increased suicide, academic failure, financial shortcoming, prison sentences, drug use, and so on. You want to keep pushing into chartered territory?
As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m married with children. I have a son I’ll be raising in this maladaptive environment.Is not that I personally want to. I also suffer from all those things. That said, I think there’s no stopping the beast in long term. Society will keep changing and changing. That doesn’t necessarily stop a young man from trying to make the most with what he has at his disposal. Forget how easy was for your father, push forward in ways that might or not be creative, and unique, wage war against the establishment, or even quit. All valid choices to a problem that has no quick solution
It is likely that I know more about feminism that a lot of feminists. Second Wave Feminism (early 1960s - late 1980s feminism) was likely the most impactful. The biggest achievement of First Wave Feminism (1800s-1960) was women getting the right to vote in the USA in 1920.Dang that is a good chronology of modern feminism. You probably know more about feminism than the average chick that calls herself a feminist lol.
alpha males survivesI think conflating all conversation about the subject under the umbrella as "complaining" is bvll****. Yes, plenty of men are complaining, and that does nothing. But plenty of other men are Discussing, and this something that must happen... and it wouldn't happen if men weren't complaining.
We can't act like we aren't a failed state going warp speed into the most extreme version of a hypergamous global marketplace in history. We are, and it's genuinely bad for society - and men disproportionately suffer from this.
Men shouting down other men who are talking about this... labelling them as incels or insecure or whatever the feminists churn out of their wheel of machiavellianism, is playing into the hands of the feminists.
We need to get real. Men are replaceable and the further technology advances - the more replaceable we become. At the current rate, we're less than 100 years away from a dystopian future where 99% of male babies are killed off, and the 1% is used for genetically superior sperm. If you're on this site, you're not the 1%.
I disagree. Why are sexlessness stats so high right now?Getting your d!ck wet is not that hard. In fact, this is the easiest time in human history for the average man to have meaningless sex, so that is not an accomplishment at all.
Mid-tier men did better when women were more economically dependent upon men. There have always been top tier men like what is called a 'Chad' or 'Tyrone' now. Women didn't brazenly seek top tier men through their actions as much in the pre-2000s era as they have since the 2000s. The combination of feminism, careerism, social media, swipe apps, and smartphones has made women think they are entitled to top tier men. Additionally, Millennial women were raised by Boomer parents who emphasized self-esteem and made their daughters believe that they were entitled to the best. This is a phenomenon far more common with White Millennials than non-White Millennials.mid-tier men had some advantages back in the day, but they still had to deal with a dating market that was extremely locally based, Chad and Tyrone existed back then too AKA the milkman, traditional patriarchal duties like working from dusk to dawn, having kids at an early age, willing to die for your family at any given notice
This might be true. Everyone's experience will vary on this one. Good for you for doing well with this.The good news is that it is not that hard to separate yourself from a mid-tier man and filter out the toxic women. I rarely encounter these hyper feminists or rude career women and cleat chasers & Chad/Tyrone chasers are pretty easy to spot and filter out.
"There were a number of measures the West took to have most men able to get a home, wife, and kids if they wanted to do so. Not all, but most"There were a number of measures the West took to have most men able to get a home, wife, and kids if they wanted to do so. Not all, but most. But sure, not every man got those and some died incel.
There were also actual communities, institutions, and social scenes that made it easy for men to get women.
None of my uncles or grandfathers struggled or had to become some dumb bullsh-t to find mates.