Tom Brady's situation is concrete proof that dating for men is always a L

[Stuffnu]

I would gladly trade my life for his

 

[EyeBRollin]

His wife is selfish. If she does indeed divorce him, the streets are calling.

 

[Pedrito0906]

All humans get old. It’s odd to imply a man should simply discard his wife because she “got old.”

Yeah but when a woman divorces her hubby cause he lost his job or now she makes more money than him, that's okay in today's standards because "he didn't measure up"

People should be able to whatever the fvck they want, that's the game we play today. If she's an old good woman and he's happy good, if not, she should be replaced, without guilt.

 

[devilkingx2]

Tom Brady has always been simp-ish. He isn't as alpha as some might think. Earlier in his football career, he was dating Bridget Moynahan (6 years older) and he had a kid with her. He had already been a part of multiple Super Bowl winning teams and been Super Bowl MVP by the time he started with Moynahan. If you're Super Bowl MVP, one would think you'd be dating women 6 years younger, not 6 years older.

Maybe it's because I'm 25, but I have different perspective on this. Dating a woman older than 25 feels like an accomplishment because they're still hot but also have more money/status, which gives me bragging rights (and better birthday gifts lol)

Younger girls are hotter and at times more fun/interesting. But only guys who are banging HB8's in their sleep really need to worry about finding hotter girls.

Tom Brady is so high tier that pretty much no girl is good enough to be an accomplishment for him, even if he dated exclusively 21 year old models like Leonardo DiCaprio does, it would still be shooting fish in a barrel for him.

Is that something I should be impressed by, a woman who got lucky in the genes pool for looks and became rich modeling? Is that your goal having a foreign, wealth supermodel whom you can build a family with? Good luck to you and your goals.

If a girl being rich and famous because she's a top tier beauty isn't impressive, then no girl is impressive.

Also cut back on the simping cause she was 29 when they got married and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get married to almost post wall women at 29, when he could have gotten at 32 a younger chippy

It sounds like you have a hardcore age fetish if the only thing that matters to you is how young she is compared to you.

Also "post-wall" has no meaning if her age hasn't made her unattractive.

 

[devilkingx2]

How does that even make sense if he wants to actually have a family? You want some young girl that wants to go out and party all the time and not parent the kids, or even realize how to because she is a kid herself?

My God the stuff you read on here is just mind boggling sometimes. Where do people learn this rubbish? Like the only thing that matters to people here is that she is young and hot? Then wonder why they find out later she has no real qualities they actually want in an actual person...not some fantasy porn star you want them to be? Like WTF is the mindset to post dumb sh!t like this?

Trust and believe that Tom Brady could get more pvssy than every person on this board combined if that's what he actually wanted. Even at age 45.

No...YOU say that. Stop acting like this is some "truth" that exists in the universe.

Personally I think there are more people on this board damaged than women I have met. But that's just me.

The vast majority of issues on this board regarding relationships with women exist because of an inherently poor selection process where these women are selected for traits that have nothing to do with what a person actually wants in a relationship and only due to looks or age.

It's like selecting a doctor based on how hot they are not by if they are any good at solving whatever health issues you have...or even if they have any experience at all in what you need them for

I agree with these points. There's more to it than just how hot she is or how young/old she is.

The thing about Tom Brady is that none of the factors really matter in his case, no matter how hot or rich or high status it's still nothing to him.

But for regular men, learning how to pay attention to personality is like the first lesson you should learn after dating a single hot girl.

I wish I could copy and paste this into every angry, hateful, woman-haters head. Its just how it goes, why keep logging on to the same game everyday if you hate everything about it?!

To be fair, Biology forces most men into the game.

All humans get old. It’s odd to imply a man should simply discard his wife because she “got old.”

I disagree with this, if she actually becomes unattractive due to age or life choices it makes sense to get rid of her when you can do way better.

But obviously not just because she reaches some arbitrary age, I mean more like if she gets fat or wrinkly and gray.

 

[EyeBRollin]

, I mean more like if she gets fat or wrinkly and gray.

They all get wrinkly and gray too. Should guys just divorce their wives at that point?

 

[Pedrito0906]

They all get wrinkly and gray too. Should guys just divorce their wives at that point?

If he's unhappy, and his smv is way higher than her, why not? Women divorce husbands when they get fat, unattractive and lose their jobs. Fair game papi

 

[BackInTheGame78]

His wife is selfish. If she does indeed divorce him, the streets are calling.

You've got that completely backwards. He is the one being selfish and made promises he had no intention of keeping.

Again...maybe that's OK if this was a plate but it's not...it's his long time wife whom he has 2 kids and a family with. Huge difference in what is OK and not OK.


She has every right to be pissed off.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I would gladly trade my life for his

Is that a Hamilton quote?

 

[thermodynamic]

There are men that can appear alpha in a workplace setting but not be alpha in their interactions with women. It happens in blue collar and white collar work settings. Plenty of masculine tradesmen/blue collar workers are subscribing to women's OnlyFans pages.

It is true. I know gangsters who are simps.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The only men going after older women with money just want a mother figure. That's a bad thing. There's nothing to brag about having a sugar momma except if you're in elementary school showing off your parent's new car or new duds you got to the other kids.

 

[eli77]

Tom Brady has always been simp-ish. He isn't as alpha as some might think. Earlier in his football career, he was dating Bridget Moynahan (6 years older) and he had a kid with her. He had already been a part of multiple Super Bowl winning teams and been Super Bowl MVP by the time he started with Moynahan. If you're Super Bowl MVP, one would think you'd be dating women 6 years younger, not 6 years older.

When you look at Tom Brady's current situation and try to relate it to the common man, the main takeaway is that the passage of time is often quite bad for monogamous relationships. 5 years is the shelf life of goodness for most monogamous relationships. Even when relationships exceed 5 years, as Tom Brady's did, women start to get bored in monogamy.

There is a good chance that Tom Brady did pound some other vag during the Gisele era, despite simp-ish tendencies.

Tom Brady never geo-maxxed. He didn't live in Latin America or Eastern Europe and date. He dated a woman from Brazil in a Western nation.

I agree with you to a point if tom brady doesn't epitomizes the ultimate alpha male I don't know what does now in terms of his relationships what happens to him could happen to anybody millionaire or not I could name several past and current QBs that are less outfit in him what happened to him could happen to everybody but he won't be taken to the ringers like some other people.

 

[MatureDJ]

Tom Brady has always been simp-ish. He isn't as alpha as some might think.

Even on his worst day, he still mogged the sheet out of me on my best day.

EDIT: I just remembered that my team is the like the only one against whom he has a losing record, so I guess I mog him in that regard.

 

[MatureDJ]

Also, he has had cosmetic work done on his face over the years big time as well.

Really?

So with that said if he was a backup QB for a few more seasons and called it quits would he still get someone like her? Probably not. She wouldn't even know who he is.

He might not get a famous model, but he could still have easily gotten a very attractive woman.

Just amazing to think of it. If just a couple things went different, none of us would ever be talking about him.

The only thing that would have eclipsed greatness in him is if he had gotten injured and not be able to come back, which is something that can happen to ANY player at ANY time. At some point, he would have beaten out his nobody starter or been traded and made his mark. That said, he had a great coach for most of his career, and was able to slide into a great situation in which all that was needed was a great QB - but he'd still be one of the all-time greats regardless. Having a TD-INT ratio of 4 and making the big throws when they're needed are the ingredients for greatness.

I know some men are going to chime in and say Gisele is 45 and post wall garbage, but she's still very hot looking. I'd like to see SS members do better. They'd be tripping over their d*cks simping for her if she cold approached you.

She's top-level, no doubt, but not my type. Of course, I don't think there is a model alive that would consider me as her type.

 

[Schwing]

Really?


He might not get a famous model, but he could still have easily gotten a very attractive woman.


The only thing that would have eclipsed greatness in him is if he had gotten injured and not be able to come back, which is something that can happen to ANY player at ANY time. At some point, he would have beaten out his nobody starter or been traded and made his mark. That said, he had a great coach for most of his career, and was able to slide into a great situation in which all that was needed was a great QB - but he'd still be one of the all-time greats regardless. Having a TD-INT ratio of 4 and making the big throws when they're needed are the ingredients for greatness.


She's top-level, no doubt, but not my type. Of course, I don't think there is a model alive that would consider me as her type.

DOn't be fooled. She might be a mid 40s woman, but still looks better than most women younger than her. Everyone on here would simp to death and trip on each others d*cks to smash her. Hell, if she were to really divorce him and I ran into her somewhere I'd run game on her too.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

DOn't be fooled. She might be a mid 40s woman, but still looks better than most women younger than her. Everyone on here would simp to death and trip on each others d*cks to smash her. Hell, if she were to really divorce him and I ran into her somewhere I'd run game on her too.

Remember, everyone on this site has a quickly revolving rotation of hot 18 year old virgins that fvck on the first date.

 

[SW15]

I have also talked about this in my college experience thread but dudes seriously overrate life for a football player. I played ball in high school (which in the Atlanta area is really competitive) and most of your audience are go to church every Sunday and no sex before marriage types. Even at a top tier football school, I noticed that the football players were not really slaying in the way others say they were. Sure they had their groupies and Jersey Chasers but that was it.

Now that's not to say that American football stars do not slay, compared to the average guy they definitely can. However, most come from such backwards religious areas (the south) that they are naive and you end up with situations like Deshaun Watson.

College football players who have strong NFL potential and go to a major school like Alabama, Auburn, Texas, etc. can slay well. NFL guys can slay well too. NBA/NCAA basketball guys at top schools are better at slaying because their faces are visible on TV and not obscured by a helmet.

I agree that a lot of non-athlete men overrate being an athlete man.

One of my friends is a 6'4", White ex-NCAA athlete in a country club sport. He slayed more post college with White, bougie women (think the KokoBeaute type but younger) than while he was an NCAA athlete. His former NCAA athlete status did help him get laid a lot post college. He ran up a triple digit notch count with bougie White women in the bars before settling down and putting a ring on some mentally questionable woman. He did become more beta. I can't discern whether he was a beta all along imitating a hardcore seducer or fell into a bad beta pattern. I think it was the first one and he always believed in the cultural illusion of the traditional monogamous marriage.

There is such a pressure in American Football culture to conform to that model citizen image. However, that is the culture of American football and I am sure that even @SW15 can kind of speak to it given that he lives in Texas (mecca of football!). Most people that are really into the sport are your settled down and married at 30 with a kid and a house in the suburbs type of folks. There is a huge connection between Church and Football which means that sleeping around is heavily frowned upon. Now add the SJW infestation of the sport.

The NFL has gone totally SJW.

I am living in Texas and I do not care at all about football. It's not a big deal. In the larger cities, there are enough people out there who don't care either.

Personally, I am so glad that I stopped caring about the sport and the culture that comes with it. I may watch a major game but that is about it. The people you have to talk to are so irritating and morally self-righteous Bible Thumping normies that I do not even bother to watch most games at bars. If there is an important game on or if it is playoffs, I'll watch it. Other than that, it is a complete waste of time because 80% of the game is commercials.

Looking back at it, football fans were some of the saddest people I had ever been around whether it was pro or college. Most of them fat, a lot of them insane, and many of them living mediocre lives. Majority of them get married by 25 and meet their wives in high school, college, or church. Needless to say that they will shame the game community and guys like us doing well with women.

I haven't watched an NFL regular season game in at least 10 years. I was watching the Super Bowl as my only football game for years but I didn't even watch the Super Bowl last season and I do not plan to watch it this year.

Super Bowl parties have even become a romantic relationship litmus test in a lot of social circles. I've noticed, at least with the people I know, that it was super common to bring girlfriends and later wives to Super Bowl parties. For the unattached/marginally attached guys, this is an unbearable feeling. I stopped going to Super Bowl parties in years when I didn't have a woman to bring to one.

A lot of sports fans are big time beta males as you described. Sports watching is voyeuristic, like watching porn and masturbating. Go out and play sports, don't watch them. I care far more about my own playing of sports than spending hours watching a game.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@SW15 I guess that is debatable and I have long been in trouble on this site for saying it but I do think that a top tier pickup guy can outslay and do better than most NFL dudes. The reason is, most NFL and football guys (and athletes in general) are too busy playing sports to have the time to go out regularly. Even when I was in college, it seemed like a lot of athletes were playing a niche game if anything. Sure they got the hottest sorority girl but volume wise, they were under too much of a microscope or not going out as much as one would think to slay that much. Once again, I went to a football powerhouse here so this was my observation.

It seemed like a wealthy frat guy was outslaying an athlete. If not them, then someone working in nightlife and going out a ton.

IMO, the sports that produce the biggest slayers are by far:

1. World football/soccer (Ronaldo outslays almost any athlete when in his prime)
2. MMA

 

[SW15]

I do think that a top tier pickup guy can outslay and do better than most NFL dudes.

It's very difficult to be a top tier pickup guy.

Which of the following 4 groups of men sees the most success in terms of sex frequency?

1. Median pro athlete in a major team sport (NBA/NFL/MLB/NHL)
2. Median guy with a steady girlfriend
3. Median guy with a wife
3. Median guy with neither a girlfriend nor wife

I'm going with Group 1.

 

[eli77]

Oh boy, where do I even start with this. For one, Tom Brady is by far one of my favorite athletes on the planet and what he has done in the NFL will never be rivaled by anyone else that comes along. Tom is by far the GOAT football player and even his situation with his wife is not that bad because apparently, she makes more money than he does!

However, as much as I love the work he has done on the field, I do think that Brady always gave off that simpish nice guy image. People don't realize it but he was a late bloomer. Even though he played football at Michigan, he was taken in the 6th round of the NFL draft and didn't grow into his looks until after winning a couple of Superbowls. Of course a guy like that happily wives up a supermodel. Even on the field and overall, he gave off too much of a clean guy sort of image. I think it had to do with the classy organization that the Patriots tried to make themselves out to be (despite Spy Gate and Deflate Gate lol).

I'll contrast him to someone like Cristiano Ronaldo who was also an ugly duckling before peaking at United but had his fair share of fun before getting married with a kid. The other one is obviously one of the game GOATs himself, Leonardo DiCaprio.

I get into it all the time with dudes on here who say "just work on yourself and it will come, no need to game". That is BS and some celebs are a testament to that. Just because you have money and status does not mean you will slay that much.

It is why, despite how much guys hate him, what Dan Bilzerian has done has been amazing.

And even dan eventually got married let's see how that plays out.