Survey says 96% of men who try online dating will fail

[Naughty Ninja]

I seriously HOPE none of you take chicks met online...ESPECIALLY POF the LEAST bit seriously. These chicks are sending out n00dz like it's trading cards. Hell half of them are pretty much amature porn stars once you get to talking with them...and God knows how many guys and other girls they fvked. trust me a LOT of those chicks are bisexual FREAKS. You get them hot enough and you can literally talk to them ANY WAY YOU WANT. Treat them like a TOTAL PIG. It's freaking MIND BLOWING. And they LOVE IT. No joke. True story. Did it MANY MANY TIMES on there.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

True, they get 100 to my 10-20 per day, but most of the women I've spoken to tend to do the same thing...they scan over the thumbnails and delete all the guys they're not attracted to without even looking at their profile or reading their mails, leaving just a handful of guys left.

Some women I dated have shown me their messages and most of those are just "hi", blatant copy & paste jobs or just absolutely retarded. Some guys write these girls poems, quote lyrics to a song or say something ridiculously corny, others write messages like "I'd love to smash your backdoors in" or something equally tasteless.

I seriously couldn't believe how socially stunted most of the guys on there are, but it basically means of the 100 messages per day, only a few are legitimate options. And almost every woman I've ever spoken to on there say they've been on dates to find the guys have lied about themselves (usually their height).

They key to success is to separate yourself from the crowd.

Maybe things are different in the UK. I tend to search the midlands area, though I get a lot of messages from all around the country.

As for HB9s, obviously everyone has different tastes, so my HB9 could be another guy's HB6 and vice versa, but here are a couple of girls I met on there who I'd consider HB9s...

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=37647619
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=38301647

Hey Jariel,

Your tastes are not too bad at all. The first is a 6.5, the second I think is a solid 7-8. Regardless of number, they're attractive and as long as you find them attractive, that's what matters most.

I think the UK thing does change the game man. Toronto is a tough city to crack when it comes to girls. The pickings are slim here. They're not open-minded at all, so it makes it tough to meet girls. If they haven't met you in school or they didn't meet you through a friend, they don't tend to mingle or give you the time of day.

I have a friend who worked in the UK. She says things are different over there. Guys and girls are more open to partying with strangers and meeting new people. It's not like that in Toronto. Toronto is a cold, cold city and I'm not talking about the winters (this winter was actually really mild).

I think for those reasons the online girls in the Toronto area are even worse. If someone is cold in person, imagine how cold they would be online. All I see for girls online in the Toronto area are AW and girls with inflated standards. They are always looking for the next best thing. Nothing is good enough for them.

Did you know Toronto is one of the online & speed-dating capitals of the world? There is a reason for that.

 

[jhl]

I can't agree with what you say more. Had a fatty at work who at best was a 3. She averaged about 5 new hits a day and a cutsy Asian 7 averaged 30 messages a day. I was quite curious about POF and my coworkers later showed me the text/chat messages that were coming through. TilltheEnd is not exaggerating...actually he's writing a PG version of what really happens. It gets far far worse. If you were to put forth a strategy you should only hit on girls who recently joined. Good chance they won't be tainted by the BS and creeps.

I have joined in that same thread. The answer is simple. The stigma of online dating is LONG gone. Men SWARMED into the online dating scene because they no longer felt embarrassed about it. So did women. However, men came in much greater numbers. A power imbalance began to develop.

That is the BASIS for why online dating turned south. To continue the snowball.....since a disproportionately large amount of men joined online dating, they were all basically hitting on the same subset of reasonably attractive women in their geographical area. Suddenly egos EXPLODED. Women excitedly told their roommates in school how they had all these guys sending them nice messages online and telling them how "hot" they were.

"Oh yeah?" said her roommate. "Let me join in!". There was a spike in interest, but after being put on pedestals both in life and by men online, these women because to have delusions about their self-worth. Eventually they would increase their standards beyond what they were able to get both online and in reality. They became chronic profile jumpers. They would just wait till a guy messaged them, read the profile and think: "meh, I'm so hot I can do better".

Meanwhile the amount of men joining online dating was rising and rising. Soon, the horn dogs and sleazballs joined in the mix. They had no game and tried to get sex right away. This behavior scared away the decent girls who were actually looking for a boyfriend. The remainder of women left were mainly the untouchables. Ugly girls, women with emotional & mental disorders, etc.

And AGAIN, men's numbers increased. With the invention of the affordable digital cameras, topless pictures and penis shots were flooding women's inboxes. If there was a single decent girl left, you better believe this generation of men scared them away. Now the women that were left were even worse than before. They became hardcore attention seeking types looking for an ego boost. And they came with the same emotional/mental disorders as the previous generation to boot!

Social stigma was not only GONE by now, but it was actually "cool" to be online dating. Any girl with any issue in reality that stopped her from getting attention in the real world heard about this oasis of dating called online dating. This oasis where women even less attractive than her were getting untold amounts of attention from men. "How can this be!?" She would think. Then she would join as well.

One the men's side: still more penis pictures and topless photos in front of the mirror. Yeah that's right. Don't only show everyone how vain you are, but let them know you need to take your own pictures in front of mirrors because you don't have friends....and buddy, we know that's not your car.....stop posing in front of nice cars on the street and putting them in your profile.

In summary, online dating today is a prime example of a sellers market on steroids....and we know who the sellers are and who the buyers are.....

 

[green69]

True, they get 100 to my 10-20 per day, but most of the women I've spoken to tend to do the same thing...they scan over the thumbnails and delete all the guys they're not attracted to without even looking at their profile or reading their mails, leaving just a handful of guys left.

You get 10-20 messages from girls per day? Either you're in top 10% of looks or the culture of where you live is a lot of different than most cities people are describing here.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

You get 10-20 messages from girls per day? Either you're in top 10% of looks or the culture of where you live is a lot of different than most cities people are describing here.

Exactly, that is NOT typical of the male experience online. I have never received numbers like that and my friends have never did either. We're not models, but we're not ugly by any means either. We're in the 6-7 range. The very few messages that I did received unsolicited were from 1's-5's. The 1/10 was a girl with no arms and a monkey face. SERIOUSLY. I'm NOT making that up.

WTF.

Jariel, are you a Calvin Klein underwear model? lol :crackup:

 

[Poonani Maker]

I get maybe 1-2 a week unsolicited, 3-5 a week in response to my initiation. I fvcked an extreme butterface (I'm talking in-bred level), last night 35, mom of 3, no tats, nice body/as5, droopy t!ts (of course), and decent pvss (for her age with kids). This one was hood-rat ugly, but I was horny and that was all i could get. It was Easy, she'd just "broken up with" her boyfriend. Her roommate was much younger and prettier than she was, so very bizarre that they lived together. I thought pretty girls lived with pretty girls and ugs with ugs. She was even more of a conspiracy theorist than I am and we talked for hours about prepping etc. her high-fiving me etc. I was only interested in her slammin body in sweatpants, this medussa. She was very feminine, dainty hands, so I couldn't be too rough with her, but I fvcked her raw last night. Pot was her thing, not booze or hard drugs. Still, I don't like girls who are on anything, even depression meds, and finding completely clean ones are like needle in a haystack odds. In the meantime, I'm fvcking whatever I can get if other plates' plans don't mesh with mine. Also, other girls you have to move much slower with, meeting even. I can adapt like that. Don't have to rush, cause I can always just fvck an ug (a notch up from fattie) or fattie (last resort) to fill the gaps.

I have a nice blonde 29 yr old from where I grew up on my line, another 19 yr old that's interested (but I'm taking it slow, just messaging once a day at night (missed last night) when I get home from work to her messages in the morning). Both of those are long-term potential so I am being delicate not as cut-to-the-chasey.

 

[betheman]

Jariel, would you mind C&P ing the text from your profile?

 

[green69]

Exactly, that is NOT typical of the male experience online. I have never received numbers like that and my friends have never did either. We're not models, but we're not ugly by any means either. We're in the 6-7 range. The very few messages that I did received unsolicited were from 1's-5's.

Same here. I'm reasonable looking as well but far from a male model or anything, and I get very very few unsolicited messages from girls on POF. If I do, they're usually 5's at best.

 

[Jariel]

I suppose I'm better than average looking and I am tall and in decent shape, but definitely not top 10% or Calvin Klein model material. But having seen a lot of posts on here and spoken to my male friends on POF I realise not everybody's experience on there is as positive as mine.

Here's the opening of my profile. I would say most of the mails I get make reference to the wife joke and a lot of women try to qualify themselves saying stuff like "I don't have black hair, but I have green eyes" or they play along with the joke.

I think the reason it works so well is that it captures the viewer's attention straight away and they have to keep reading. So I would recommend having an opening line/paragraph that's going to make them read on.

I'm pretty sure it puts off a lot of women too, but they wouldn't get my sense of humour in real life either.

I'm looking for a replacement for my deceased wife. You must have dark hair and green eyes or be willing to wear a black wig and green contact lenses. Brown hair and blue eyes are acceptable. You must also be willing to answer to her name and will ideally be size 10-12 so you can fit into her old clothes.



Ok, being serious now. I have quite a dry sense of humour and it would be nice to be with someone who gets me. I believe it's important to be able to laugh at yourself and the little dramas life throws at you.

I have old fashioned values, I'm a gentleman on a date and protective of those I care about. My ideal type would be a feminine lady who takes pride in her appearance, but who I can talk to and laugh with for hours and leaves me excited to see her again.

I'm into the gym, nice pubs, outdoor activities, slapping around prostitutes and quiet nights in watching movies.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

I suppose I'm better than average looking and I am tall and in decent shape, but definitely not top 10% or Calvin Klein model material. But having seen a lot of posts on here and spoken to my male friends on POF I realise not everybody's experience on there is as positive as mine.

Here's the opening of my profile. I would say most of the mails I get make reference to the wife joke and a lot of women try to qualify themselves saying stuff like "I don't have black hair, but I have green eyes" or they play along with the joke.

I think the reason it works so well is that it captures the viewer's attention straight away and they have to keep reading. So I would recommend having an opening line/paragraph that's going to make them read on.

I'm pretty sure it puts off a lot of women too, but they wouldn't get my sense of humour in real life either.

Jariel,

As you mentioned before, geographical area may have something to do with it. If I had the time, I would make profiles from different areas and see if there is a different consensus. It is known that women from different parts of the world can have very different attitudes, so I think the same trend should be seen online.

Toronto is known for a terrible dating scene. That reputation precedes it with a VENGEANCE online. People write entire blogs about how bad it is here. There has been a magazine article on it! "Toronto the cold". Seriously, look it up if you don't believe me.

If you're a single average looking guy in Toronto and your social circle is not huge, you're screwed. That is the experiences of the single 20-30 something man here. Avoid this city like the plague if you're a single professional and care about your social/sex life. I'm stuck here unfortunately. I grew up here and the only family I have ever known is here. I want to leave, but it is hard.

 

[Gro0ver]

Jariel your profile cracked me up :crackup:

 

[Thatfeel21]

its a rainy sun nite here in jersey, so i decided to make a fake 'hot girl' pof account to see how bad it is. It is ridiculous! Had 11 messages before i even uploaded the 2nd pic. I then changed the required message length to 300+ characters and guys were still flooding my inbox.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

I know a ton of girls who have done the online dating thing, and none of them find anyone that great either. I wonder what % of females will fail with finding long-term relationships online. Probably around the same percentile..

 

[Poonani Maker]

I feel sorry for the ones who are fat, ugly, or cute/good looking, but older, with droopy t!ts. I'm sure that their false sense of worth is pumped on there, but in actuality, a guy hitting on their profile only wants a lay, and nothing long-term with that used goods or undesirable long-term goods; therefore, most of the chicks on their are utterly NEVER going to find a man for the rest of their lives, because they've Wasted soooo much time due to being hoodwinked about how hot their are (not how they really are). This causes them to Wasttttte time. It's sad that they will waste even More time at 30 something, thinking that what all these guys tell them in their emails is true (just to get a lay). I would NOT want to be a woman in this day, because the messages they keep receiving (not just online) are rising yeast (tooo complimentary) portrayals of themselves. Women of the past, Traditional women, knew their place, and that life was short, and that they would Not go on living forever, and would Not go on being "beautiful" forever. The oxymoron of the whole thing is that they stand in front of mirrors All the f'in time yet they do not notice the decay of gravity effect on them, even at 28 yrs old. This is their only asset, while some of them have productive (to society) brains, most (especially on POF) do not.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

probably those 96 percent, or close to it, probably even struggle to even get a quick lay as well, hook-up.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

I feel sorry for the ones who are fat, ugly, or cute/good looking, but older, with droopy t!ts. I'm sure that their false sense of worth is pumped on there, but in actuality, a guy hitting on their profile only wants a lay, and nothing long-term with that used goods or undesirable long-term goods; therefore, most of the chicks on their are utterly NEVER going to find a man for the rest of their lives, because they've Wasted soooo much time due to being hoodwinked about how hot their are (not how they really are). This causes them to Wasttttte time. It's sad that they will waste even More time at 30 something, thinking that what all these guys tell them in their emails is true (just to get a lay). I would NOT want to be a woman in this day, because the messages they keep receiving (not just online) are rising yeast (tooo complimentary) portrayals of themselves. Women of the past, Traditional women, knew their place, and that life was short, and that they would Not go on living forever, and would Not go on being "beautiful" forever. The oxymoron of the whole thing is that they stand in front of mirrors All the f'in time yet they do not notice the decay of gravity effect on them, even at 28 yrs old. This is their only asset, while some of them have productive (to society) brains, most (especially on POF) do not.

I agree with your ideas. The great tragedy of online dating for women is the ILLUSION of choice. There are seemingly infinite opportunities for them and yet no opportunities.

Unfortunately for women, by the time they recognize the illusion, they are bitter & barren 30+ year old specimens. They have nothing to offer a man.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

I agree with your ideas. The great tragedy of online dating for women is the ILLUSION of choice. There are seemingly infinite opportunities for them and yet no opportunities.

Unfortunately for women, by the time they recognize the illusion, they are bitter & barren 30+ year old specimens. They have nothing to offer a man.

i tried to start a thread but apparently the administrators on this site won't let me, it's not trolling, it's just a simple question asking whether does it really get harder for women as they get older, but easier for men as they get older? as in, a man can get a woman at pretty much any age, but it doesn't work that way for women, they have to use the time they are young to find someone, so is it true? accurate? valid?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

i tried to start a thread but apparently the administrators on this site won't let me, it's not trolling, it's just a simple question asking whether does it really get harder for women as they get older, but easier for men as they get older? as in, a man can get a woman at pretty much any age, but it doesn't work that way for women, they have to use the time they are young to find someone, so is it true? accurate? valid?

It doesn't ever get "easier" for a man. It only gets harder for a woman.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

It doesn't ever get "easier" for a man. It only gets harder for a woman.

David DeAngelo posted this video, in his "Man" transformation seminar, do you agree or disagree?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6EzBB94aFc