Have you guys heard of True Forced Lonliness? What a crock of BS.

[Luthor Rex]

Look guys we're famous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFPGt-fZjNw



GET OFF MY INTERNETZ

OMG they highlighted my internet alter ego!!! I am teh dooomeed!!!

LOL!

It was a bit creepy to see my "name" on youtube. But at the same time :crackup:

 

[piranha45]

Golly, talk about building up our street cred

 

[godofanxiety]

I've BEEN there. As I've posted here before, as recently as a couple of years ago I found myself divorced, weighing nearly 300 lbs, unemployed, severe joint problems, and cancer ridden.

I can't say for certain, but I'd wager that I had it worse than fat boy here, but did I sit at home making youtube videos tearing up because girls didn't like me? Hell no. I didn't like the thing I had become so I decided to be a man. Now I'm boxing, doing competitive weightlifting, making nearly 6 figures at a job, spinning plates like there is no tomorrow, and just generally enjoying life.

Man, if this is true, I'm speechless. And inspired.

 

[Nutz]

dunno, the more AFCs the less competition for the DJs.

But if 80% of men were just...gone...our demand would skyrocket.

 

[Warrior74]

I understand the need to empathize with people and getting into his shoes, but this guy is pathetic.

I've BEEN there. As I've posted here before, as recently as a couple of years ago I found myself divorced, weighing nearly 300 lbs, unemployed, severe joint problems, and cancer ridden.

I can't say for certain, but I'd wager that I had it worse than fat boy here, but did I sit at home making youtube videos tearing up because girls didn't like me? Hell no. I didn't like the thing I had become so I decided to be a man. Now I'm boxing, doing competitive weightlifting, making nearly 6 figures at a job, spinning plates like there is no tomorrow, and just generally enjoying life.

This guy needs to get off his a$$, stop blaming the world for his problems, and make himself a better man.

He keeps saying to BE YOURSELF. Well, he SHOULD be himself... he should just be the best himself he can be.

He's obviously lurking on this thread since he posted that video showing the world how mean we all are, so I'm gonna say this to him:

Who you truly are isn't overindulging in food, living a sedentary lifestyle and making youtube videos. Get out there in the world and climb a few mountains and be the conquering hero that every man wants to be. When you do this, the women will gladly hop aboard for the ride and you will fall into the companionship you obviously crave.

repped.

I was the same way a few years ago. nearly 300lbs. Divorced, broke. I'm down a 120 lbs, building up my business, enjoying time with my kid and my family and friends and enjoying women. What I'm not doing is whining about my problems.

I will say this too. As I lost weight, women noticed, I got more attention from new women and it keeps me motivated to loose the rest. My friends and family have been really supportive. I started my weightloss for health reasons, but the benefits were way more than that. I started my business because I wanted some extra money, but the benefits have been way more than that.

Going through a journey in your life gives you confidence to do more, and to try more and to be braver, and everyone sees that. Everyone responds to that confidence, friends and women. You have to do something, confidence is earned, not magically wished into existence.

 

[samspade]

The True Forced Loneliness movement is not one side in terms of any gender. But it is a known fact that the majority of people suffering from True Forced Loneliness is that of “men” in our Global Society and also, by design of different subjects, issues, and agendas of the New World Order Social Architects and Social Engineers of the Global Elite. Also known as the New World Order.

From: http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/

This is a telling paragraph. Sorry, but I don't feel any sympathy for these guys. It's one thing to be clinically depressed and seek help. But you might as well lump these saps in with the conspiracy theorists and astrology-*****s who want/need someone else (God, government, monied elite, opposite sex, etc.) to be in control of their happiness and whether they live or die. It's a convenient belief to hold: the "New World Order" (a catch-all term for an indescribable force that supplants their own will power) is running the show, and they're just powerless pawns.

Unless they're living in North Korea and submitting to the Dear Leader while eating $.05 worth of grain a day, then they are just making excuses.

Unfortunately, a lot of Westerners would rather blame their lot in life on convenient crutches. Fat people blame food. AFCs blame women. Unemployed people blame the rich. Insecure people blame celebrity culture. And so on.

Sosuave (and the seduction community in general) is one of the FEW vestiges of self-help in the US where people actually are willing to point the finger at the real culprit: Themselves. Sometimes they need convincing, but in the end, we all know who is most responsible for our own happiness.

Here is another telling sentence from the same page:

A better example of this situation [TFL] of how a person is forced to be alone is from trying to find one person in your life or mate. One person that will love you for you.

Note the use of passive voice: "...a person IS FORCED TO BE ALONE." They call it True Forced Loneliness, but they won't even acknowledge their own role in forcing themselves to be alone. The implication is that they are powerless.

KontrollerX said,

Creating a lure which in and of itself is manipulation and manipulation is what this society requires to succeed in it.

And I completely agree. "Manipulation" is a wrongfully maligned word these days. But it's funny that you use the word "lure." A man would have no problem catching a minnow, impaling it on a hook, and casting it on a line to catch a big fish if he needed to eat. That's the "game" when it comes to eating - manipulation of our environment. But so many men refuse to accept the rules of the mating game - self-improvement, confidence, boldness, self-control, ambition - to "lure" a woman. Go figure.

 

[WaterTiger]

These TFL guys are self-pitying, bitter morons.

They're the ones who come to a bar, get totally plastered with other TFL guys while bashing every woman in the place. Then they find the hottest chick in the place and stagger up and loudly ask:

"Hey...HEY!...HEY PRINCESS! You wanna go out with me?"
"Uhhhh...No."
"SEE? All you women are stuck up b!tches!"

Then they go back to their buddies and lament the evil women who don't see what loving,wonderful men thery are.

The trouble with these guys is they won't ask a 5 or a 6 out. Oh no! Only 8, 9 or 10's will work for them. They want the very, very hottest chick and nothing else will do. (When they, themselves are bearly in the 3 to 6 range.)

Note: Number rating based strictly on visual attractivness only.


P.S. Warrior74 & Werner: Way to go guys! Props on your healthy lives!

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

One guys rants about women being hypocrites over skid marks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HpcnsufwF8

 

[Luthor Rex]

One guys rants about women being hypocrites over skid marks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HpcnsufwF8

It's kinda fvcked up he talks about the "statistics of skid marks on underwear"... um... yeah



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4pWYA6DXrs

We can get tee-shirts! And hats!

 

[HalfAddict]

This makes me want to go buy a webcam... Just so this dude can see me as I talk to him...

Honestly.. I know EXACTLY what this guy goes through.

But I don't let that **** phase me.

I've been a big dude since the third grade...

I was always a tall kid but I was never chunky.. But something changed as I grew taller I gained a lot of weight... I was like six feet tall in the sixth grade... possibly taller and well over 200 lbs. My Mom Uncles Grandma Grandpa Aunts and Uncles are all overweight not that I'm fully blaming genetics but it does play a role.

The lowest my weight has been in years is around around 250 at 6'5 I've struggled with it and the depression that came along with it all throughout high school.

Once I got out.. I started boxing while I was working at GNC and I hit that 250 lbs.. It felt good.. but eventually GNC couldn't pay the bills and I had to get a real job.. Which just so happened to have me working everyday through my training... And I gained all that weight back plus some.

But can I still go out have a great time and get quality women.. yes I can, although I imagine my success ratio would be higher if my weight was lower naturally..

I make up for that..
I have a great head of hair and I take damn good care of it...I keep myself clean I wear clothes that look good and reflect my personality, which does not consist of an oversized t shirt and a dingy Budweiser baseball cap...

I employ thing I find useful here and throw the rest out.. 99% of advice is trash keep that 1% and apply it, it will add up...

If you run around buying into ALL of this pua garbage you're going to end up in a fuzzy hat with a giant medallion, black nail polish trying to do a stupid ****ing card trick, a stack of books which serve as paperweights and some empty pockets.

Running around insulting women by trying to "neg" cause Neil Strauss said it works, all the while you're asking some dumb questions and trying to push pull and treat someone you're trying to **** like your little sister.

Then you're going to make a video tearing up about how you can't get some ***** because all broads are vapid Paris Hilton clones?

**** you it's more like True Forced Laziness.


Pardon my rant.

 

[zekko]

The one guy on there says 80% of the women want 20% of the guys. I think I've heard that before, is this based on some sort of reliable study? Where does this come from?

Anyway, if you think about it, I bet 80% of the guys want 20% of the women too. The good looking 20%. But since everyone can't have them, people settle.

 

[ketostix]

The one guy on there says 80% of the women want 20% of the guys. I think I've heard that before, is this based on some sort of reliable study? Where does this come from?

Have you ever spent time around several guy friends and been out picking up? You will see that a very small percentage of men attract and get women and the rest of the guys get rejected.

Anyway, if you think about it, I bet 80% of the guys want 20% of the women too. The good looking 20%. But since everyone can't have them, people settle.

Most guys will accept the bottom 80% of women at least for the short time, whereas women generally will not. Well yeah people settle, but women don't settle for long. It doesn't take long for a top 20% guy to spin one of the bottom 80% of girls way from whoever she's "settling" on at the time. Men sort of have a hand in the whole situation by not acting in good faith to find the best girl and putting quanity over quality and driving up the supply and lowering the demand for men etc, but it is women who actually want men to all be competing with each other over women.

 

[SXS]

This guy needs to get off his a$$, stop blaming the world for his problems, and make himself a better man.

Best advice in the world.

 

[edger]

Well yeah people settle, but women don't settle for long.

I hear this a lot on here. If it's a fact that women settle, then why haven't I gotten laid by an attractive woman(excluding high-end escorts/prostitutes) since April 2007? Where's my turn gone? I'm out there in the field just about every single Friday and Saturday, respectively. And I also speak for all the other 100's of guys who haven't gotten laid in quite some time.

 

[edger]

You guys still aren't getting it. Yes, every single guy on planet earth should strive to be the best he can be, specifically in terms of being a good seducer/player. But if these guys are telling you they've tried everything, what else more do you expect from them? These guys honestly believe they've done everything in their power to improve themselves, and therefore can't think of anything else they can do to help their situation. If these guys are in fact doing something wrong, then it should become pretty obvious they don't know what it is. As far as they can tell, they've done everything RIGHT, they've done everything in their power to help their situation. Is anyone following me here? It's not hard to grasp. If you've done everything in your power and believe you're doing everything right and can't find anything wrong, then how can you possibly take steps to improve? If you think you're doing it right, you obviously can't find any areas to improve on. You don't know where else to turn. Think about it. How can you take steps to improve if you've tried to already? It's like coming to a dead end, where else do you go? Where do you turn? There's nothing you can do, cause you're at a "dead end". Anyone following me?

Now I'm not saying this particular guy is doing anything wrong in his game, I personally don't know, I don't know him, but I'll take his word for it that "he's doing all the right things". Again, like I said, the only thing I can see wrong surrounding him, is his obvious weight issue. But I'd bet every dollar I have, that even if he were to lose all that weight, he'd still struggle...not because his game sux, but because I know from personal experience as well as experience from friends and aquaintances of mine, as well as others, that it doesn't matter how good you look to most women(again, it's boiling back to the looks debate). Attraction works much differently for them than it does for us, we should all know that by now. And even if your game is up to par, it still isn't a cure for the common cold.

 

[KontrollerX]

Dwayne and Bill are very specific about wanting to go about things in a moral way to get women.

They don't want to play games or manipulate anyone and thats fine.

Well in that case Dwayne should start PMing Interceptor here.

Interceptor is who Dwayne needs to talk to and learn from.

I'm absolutely serious on that too no mocking of Interceptor intended.

Interceptor is all about morality, codes and traditional ways of succeeding.

Dwayne if you come back and read this get some PM discussion going with Interceptor if possible. I'm sure he'd be willing to talk with you and help you fix your mindset.

Also I do believe Bill has tried everything he can think of to succeed but NOT Dwayne.

Until Dwayne loses all the weight and tries again with new and moral ways of getting women that he can learn from Interceptor he hasn't done everything to succeed and thus deserves no absolute respect from the community here.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160509

There's throttle's best weight loss thread for you Dwayne.

If you want to lose weight no matter what your genetic make up follow throttle's advice to the letter.

It was tailored for people with a lot of fat to lose who have trouble losing fat even when they work hard to do so.

The problem is usually what they are eating in that some people are overly sensitive to bread products and other things that turn into sugar which keeps them fat even if they are exercising and cutting back on the amount that they eat.

Throttle lists what not to eat to succeed.

 

[SXS]

The one guy on there says 80% of the women want 20% of the guys. I think I've heard that before, is this based on some sort of reliable study? Where does this come from?

What kind of "reliable study" in this wolrd would provide this kind of data ? I would say it comes from some guy @ss...

Anyway, if you think about it, I bet 80% of the guys want 20% of the women too. The good looking 20%. But since everyone can't have them, people settle.

A lot more than 20% of women are good looking. I don't want to live in a world where there are only so much good looking women. I would say it's quite the opposite, around 80% of women look good.

hearing this kind of stories from those guys makes me wanna say: America has problems...

 

[piranha45]

What kind of "reliable study" in this wolrd would provide this kind of data ? I would say it comes from some guy @ss...



A lot more than 20% of women are good looking. I don't want to live in a world where there are only so much good looking women. I would say it's quite the opposite, around 80% of women look good.

hearing this kind of stories from those guys makes me wanna say: America has problems...

I'd say 50% or more of women (American women, at least) are lard-loaded cows.

 

[zekko]

I hear this a lot on here. If it's a fact that women settle, then why haven't I gotten laid by an attractive woman(excluding high-end escorts/prostitutes) since April 2007?

Attractive women don't have to settle.

I might agree the 50% mark might be closer to the truth as to how many women are attractive. It depends on if you are including all age groups or not. If you are only including women in their 20s, obviously the percentage is going to be higher. It also depends on what you consider attractive, as that is somewhat subjective.

 

[STR8UP]

Any group that uses the word "Forced" in their title is begging for people to feel sorry for them. Fact is, these guys are blatantly guilty of self loathing/pity, and the victimhood mentality, none of which is healthy.

There are very few men on the face of this earth who are "forced" to be lonely. The quadriplegic car accident victim who suffered horribly disfiguring burns to his face doesn't have much choice (although it wouldn't surprise me to find some guys like that who have managed to make something of their situation). The guy who is 100lbs overweight, dresses poorly, and hasn't taken the time to develop his social skills is NOT forced to be lonely.