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Has Anyone Actually Attended One of These Events? Are They Worth it?

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A friend of mine is interested and I was curious so I took a look. It got me wondering if anyone here has actually been to one and whether they'd recommend it.

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I've been to many of those events (albeit with a different dating company)

I highly recommend.
 

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We have a thread dedicated to this topic.

TLDR: These types of events are not worth attending.

 

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We have a thread dedicated to this topic.

TLDR: These types of events are not worth attending.

I got a mini-date after one of these events.

On the other hand, I've mentioned on a recent post that no one said a word to me when I went to a bar at my hotel on a trip.

Every man is different. Some men might have better results from unstructured bar environments; some might have better results from organized singles events.

I'd hate for the OP and/or the friend he mentioned to potentially miss an opportunity because he was told online to avoid organized singles events.
 

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I find this concept very weird: you pay around 33 euros just so you can meet a bunch of people you know nothing about: how they look like, how many are male/female. You only know that they're supposedly single and in the 21- 45 age range. Talk about a shot in the dark. :rolleyes:

How is this supposed to be superior to a dating app? At least there if you get a match and decide to meet offline, you have a rough idea of who you're meeting. And it doesn't have to cost you anything.
 

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I find this concept very weird: you pay around 33 euros just so you can meet a bunch of people you know nothing about: how they look like, how many are male/female. You only know that they're supposedly single and in the 21- 45 age range. Talk about a shot in the dark. :rolleyes:

How is this supposed to be superior to a dating app? At least there if you get a match and decide to meet offline, you have a rough idea of who you're meeting. And it doesn't have to cost you anything.
Organized singles events come with a major perk: The woman is already there. Right in front of you.

Getting a woman on an app to agree to meet up can be a massive challenge.
 

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Organized singles events come with a major perk: The woman is already there. Right in front of you.
Women are right in front of men in the following places....
  • Bar/nightclub (unstructured environment with no event)
  • Grocery store
  • Gym or fitness class
  • On a walking/hiking path
  • Mall
  • Street
  • Coffee shop
  • Bookstore
  • Park
  • Any other public place that I didn't mention in the bullet points above

When a woman goes to an organized single event, it means her day-to-day routine is so bad and she was unable to find a viable romantic partner in any of the following places
  • Swipe app (sometimes multiple swipe apps)
  • Social media platforms (women are usually present on more than 1 platform)
  • Her social circle
  • Nightlife venues
  • Her gym
  • Any other non-bar venue
If she couldn't find a romantic partner in any of those 6 venues above, it's clear that she's lower quality.
 

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Women are right in front of men in the following places....
  • Bar/nightclub (unstructured environment with no event)
  • Grocery store
  • Gym or fitness class
  • On a walking/hiking path
  • Mall
  • Street
  • Coffee shop
  • Bookstore
  • Park
  • Any other public place that I didn't mention in the bullet points above

When a woman goes to an organized single event, it means her day-to-day routine is so bad and she was unable to find a viable romantic partner in any of the following places
  • Swipe app (sometimes multiple swipe apps)
  • Social media platforms (women are usually present on more than 1 platform)
  • Her social circle
  • Nightlife venues
  • Her gym
  • Any other non-bar venue
If she couldn't find a romantic partner in any of those 6 venues above, it's clear that she's lower quality.
I've never really thought about it from the woman's standpoint (of what would drive a woman to attend these events)

From a man's standpoint (the angle the thread is written from), an organized singles event still has one thing going for it that unstructured environments don't: The woman is required to give a man the time of day at organized singles events. This could lead to a man and a woman, who otherwise never would have found each other, clicking.

These events will be full of jaded women wanting their @sses kissed
I've certainly handed out my fair share of compliments at these events.
 

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Only one I've attended turned out to really be a gathering of NAMBLA veterans, who's "boredom with dating apps" stemmed from the fact that most dudes on them bear a much stronger resemblance to Carl Benjamin than they do The Biebs

Following that rather disquieting experience, I've stuck to leering creepily at uni freshgirls as they fork over a stupendous amount of $$ on lattes and croissants at the local coffee shop
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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I've never really thought about it from the woman's standpoint (of what would drive a woman to attend these events)
That's a part of the reason you struggle in seduction. You don't think of things from the woman's point of view. You don't give the women what they want. Good seducers and great seducers are able to spike women's emotions because they give women what they want, which is a hot body, good sex, and the correct emotional spikes.

From a man's standpoint (the angle the thread is written from), an organized singles event still has one thing going for it that unstructured environments don't: The woman is required to give a man the time of day at organized singles events. This could lead to a man and a woman, who otherwise never would have found each other, clicking.
The woman is still looking for the top tier man at these events.

She is accustomed to swiping and seeing top tier men.

She wants that level in person at an organized singles event.

Organized singles events are known for mediocre to subpar women seeking elite men. Mid tier men are mainly rejected and the best men know that a singles event isn't worth their time.
 

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Women are right in front of men in the following places....
  • Bar/nightclub (unstructured environment with no event)
  • Grocery store
  • Gym or fitness class
  • On a walking/hiking path
  • Mall
  • Street
  • Coffee shop
  • Bookstore
  • Park
  • Any other public place that I didn't mention in the bullet points above

When a woman goes to an organized single event, it means her day-to-day routine is so bad and she was unable to find a viable romantic partner in any of the following places
  • Swipe app (sometimes multiple swipe apps)
  • Social media platforms (women are usually present on more than 1 platform)
  • Her social circle
  • Nightlife venues
  • Her gym
  • Any other non-bar venue
If she couldn't find a romantic partner in any of those 6 venues above, it's clear that she's lower quality.
Those are very solid points. Particularly when they live somewhere like London and they can't really complain about lack of options.
 

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when they live somewhere like London and they can't really complain about lack of options.
Most women under 50 are not lacking in options. By now, most 50+ women have discovered tech methods for arranging dates and most of them are experiencing abundance too.

@CheekyMonkey101 - You are 31 and likely dealing with 21-31 year old women living in a big Westernized city.

Most women in your age range have plenty of options because they are using tech methods. However, most 21-31 year olds are still young enough that they could get a decent amount of options without tech. No woman can match the abundance that tech methods give her solely on using real life methods.

I have encountered Millennial women in their 30s who have a subpar day-to-day routine. Their day-to-day routine doesn't give them enough opportunity to meet men, so they end up relying on the swipe apps.

In the past, I had a female friend in her 30s who was mid. She didn't even need to bother going out in the real life based on her abundance from swipe apps. She developed a lousy day-to-day routine for meeting men and had to depend on meeting men on the swipe apps. She ended up as a penis carousel rider on apps. Not only did top guys pump and dump her, plenty of mid men pumped and dumped her. She never understood why that happened. I understood what was going on.
 

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That's a part of the reason you struggle in seduction. You don't think of things from the woman's point of view. You don't give the women what they want. Good seducers and great seducers are able to spike women's emotions because they give women what they want, which is a hot body, good sex, and the correct emotional spikes.



The woman is still looking for the top tier man at these events.

She is accustomed to swiping and seeing top tier men.

She wants that level in person at an organized singles event.

Organized singles events are known for mediocre to subpar women seeking elite men. Mid tier men are mainly rejected and the best men know that a singles event isn't worth their time.
It still couldn't hurt for the OP (and/or his friend he mentioned on his post) to give organized singles events a try. If it turns out they hate the event(s), they don't need to attend the next one.

It speaks volumes that I, despite everything I have working against me, managed to get a mini-date after an organized singles event (and even though it's true a lot of men go home empty-handed after an event, I've also seen plenty of men leaving an event with a woman)
 

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a mini-date
A mini-date is barely an accomplishment. A full fledged first date that turns out to be "one date, no sex, no second date" is also barely an accomplishment.

The accomplishments are getting sex and getting into committed relationships (if the person is seeking committed relationships).

I've also seen plenty of men leaving an event with a woman
It would be interesting if there were follow up information on that. My guess is that they went together to one other bar and never saw each other again. Sex likely didn't happen.
 

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A mini-date is barely an accomplishment. A full fledged first date that turns out to be "one date, no sex, no second date" is also barely an accomplishment.

The accomplishments are getting sex and getting into committed relationships (if the person is seeking committed relationships)>



It would be interesting if there were follow up information on that. My guess is that they went together to one other bar and never saw each other again. Sex likely didn't happen.
For a man who's only been on 2 actual dates in the past decade, a mini-date is a key accomplishment.

I fully agree sex likely didn't happen with most/all men I've seen leaving organized singles events with a woman.

Then again, sex often doesn't happen with dates that are set up through other avenues either.
 

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sex often doesn't happen with dates that are set up through other avenues either.
Most first dates are set up now through swipe apps.

The most common date outcome on a swipe app is "one date, no sex, no second date". In most of those cases, the man offers a 2nd date due to his thirst/scarcity mentality and the woman either fails to reply to the text or declines the offer. The offer decline is usually accompanied by a candy azzed text message of "I had a good time but do not see things going anywhere".

Most dates that are set up via an app probably should not happen and probably would not happen if the man was solely using real life methods to arrange dates.

A first date arranged through a real life method that is natural and not a structured gimmick (like an organized singles event) is the type of first date that is more likely to lead to something meaningful.
 

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you pay around 33 euros just so you can meet a bunch of people you know nothing about:
Actually, you're paying 33 euros to have the luxury of starting a conversation with a stranger with a guarantee of not being told to f&ck off right off the bat, or getting AMOG'd, or having people look at you weird. To some guys, that is very worth it.
 

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Actually, you're paying 33 euros to have the luxury of starting a conversation with a stranger with a guarantee of not being told to f&ck off right off the bat, or getting AMOG'd, or having people look at you weird. To some guys, that is very worth it.
Women probably rarely pay full price for these events, they just want to see what’s out there. 33 Euro is not much for a single dude that has his life in order. I’d pay that to see what’s out there.

You’re always in competition my dudes. Complaining that its pay to play is futile and quite unattractive.
 
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