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Don't be this guy

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It's no wonder guys are having so much trouble these days, with this kind of crap circulating. I can't feel sorry for a guy who can catalogue everything he's doing wrong and then expects some kind of reward for doing the same thing he's always done.

This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and *****ing about what *******s guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in Halo2 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative *****es. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.
:rolleyes:

Don't worry, Mr. Nice Guy, you'll find that girl :crackup:

Oh, yeah, one more thing: "for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population." Yeah. I fvcking hate self-righteous c0ckblocks :down:

So, fellow DJs, just a reminder - don't be this guy!
 

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isnt the author citing this as sarcasm? at any rate, yah, dont be him:D
 

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This sounds pretty good. And it has it's point. But the bottom line is that wome LOVE ***holes. They dont want nice guys for anything more than a "male girlfriend" and I for one REFUSE to be that to any woman. I will NOT be a pseudo "big brother" to any woman. We are either dating with the potential of sex/a relationship, or they are casual acquaintences, period. No in betweens.
 

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UGH... I've read that before I think, and I still threw up.

What sickens me is that I USED to do all those things... oh how I've learned.
 

I_Only_Live_Once

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I remembering reading this story from a girls webpage. She was an HB8 and a total party girl. I messaged her asking "so you're going to go out with a nice guy next?" (she was single)
Her response was "i dunno"
:rolleyes:
 

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I saw this bulletin posted twice yesterday by people on my list. Did it get super popular all at once? I hate these bulletins, and one more read of it is oging to kill my inner child. I wrote this and posted it as a bulletin:

The REAL ode to the nice guys

This is an ode to those who call themselves "nice guys". The guys that finish last, that are too wussy to become more than friends, that endure hours of whining about what a-holes guys are, because they think that somehow, being a good listener will get him what he wants out of the girl, which is obviously to be more than friends. This is for the guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on, when inside, he's thinking about getting with this same girl who is crying on his shoulder. This is for the guys who are too scared to go after what they want, so they resort to being manipulative by pretending to be her friend, hoping that she'll someday "see the light" and realize that he is what she wanted all along. This is to the jackasses who go on and on about how cute, beautiful, smart, funny, and sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, not because they actually BELIEVE what they are saying, but because they feel that it will someday get them laid or in a relationship with said female friends. This is in honor of the guys who pretend to respect a girl's every facet, from her choice of dress, to her privacy, to her theology, but then when said girl is not around, said guy immediately begins whining about how indecisive and immature and stupid girls are like the little misogynist he is.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from the parties yet wake up the next day and still are in love with or even respect said female friends, for the guys who accompany girls to the bars as buffers against the rest of the "creepy male population"; meaning that said female friends get to enjoy the ego boost from being checked out by guys, without actually having to deal with being hit on. What an inconvenience, right? For the guys who play by the "rules" always in a game where the rules favor MEN WITH ACTUAL BALLS, and then go on about how all men who are percieved as having any confidence or self respect whatsoever are jerks. For the guy who will never stand up for himself to a female, and thus ends up becoming her whipped slave. For the guys who blindly give out compliments to girls who are fishing for them simply because they are girls, and because they think it will get them laid or in a relationship. For the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material by girls who don't want to hurt their feelings by saying what's REALLY on their minds, which are "boyfriend material for someone who can stand a boring unconfident guy". For all the "nice guys" who manipulate and mislead by pretending to be the friend of a girl so he can be more than friends with her, this is for you.

This is for the time she left three hundred messages on your cell phone fretting about two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner, and you wasted your precious time helping her to dissect them, meanwhile thinking about the day when someday YOU might be her boyfriend, yet being too much of a pansy to ever express the thought. Even thought you thought the boyfriend was a jerk, you were too much of a chump to ever express the thought, even though you know sometimes an outside perspective can be a good thing. This is for the time she interrupted your best Halo 2 game ever with a phone call to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she hates most, and not only did you actually give a crap, but you paused the game for two hours to help her concoct a counter-rumor, despite thinking she was being completely immature and having nothing against the guy. Once again, you were too much of a sissy to actually TELL her that she was being immature and you have nothing against the guy. Then you unpaused the game, and promptly got shot down. Way to go. This is for the time she didn't have a date, so after you, who wants to get serious with her, vowed in numerous ways that nothing serious was going on (which misleads her into thinking you only want to be her friend), she dragged you out to a party where the beer sucked, you didn't know anybody, and she flirted shamelessly with you, but then saying "Oh, we're just friends!", and you went even though you hated it. And even though you were just a symbolic warm body to feed her ego, you went along anyways. Because you're a wuss like that, yet you think it makes you nice.

The "nice guys" don't often get blame where blame is due. And perhaps more disturbing, they actually have the audacity to call themselves nice even after being so misleading and manipulative. They think they deserve to get laid or get in relationships, but no hell in way should they, if they don't have the balls to go for what they want. They explain this trend by concluding that females are illogical, manipulative *****es (which directly contradicts all of his feigned respect for women and pretend compliments to his female friends) who say they want to date a nice guy, but when presented with these self-adorned "nice guys", they say "oh, he's too nice to date" or "he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me". The girls are letting him down nicely. What they really mean is "not only is he a wuss who gets walked all over, but he is scared to ask me out. I'm a woman! I want a strong guy who will make me feel feminine by being the one to make the first move!". Other common replies are "It would ruin the friendship" or "he already puts up with so much from me, I can't possibly ask him out!" which are euphemisms for "We'd have nothing to do or talk about because all he ever wants to talk about are my problems with OTHER guys" and "I'd get bored with a guy who will let himself get walked all over!" The nice guys come up with more and more explanations for this "phenomenon", without even stopping to consider that when a girl says she wants a nice guy, she means a nice guy WITH BALLS, who has more to his personality than just being NICE. When presented with a choice of nice vs ballsy, women take ballsy almost every time. The "nice guy" will wait and wait, and eventually, after getting played and tossed nonstop, one of his female friends will settle for him, whipping him into psychological submission. This is the most that a "nice guy" can hope for. How sad.

So until these girls pop up, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know that you don't realize you're just a manipulative wuss in disguise. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your utter servitude and never speaking your mind. For all the crazy, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations when you are the faceless, nameless nobody, my gratitude goes out to you. Without guys like you, guys like me, who have more complex personalities than you, with "nice" being just one factor (and we have confidence too), and who understand the TRUE meaning of "just be yourself", would have more competition. Not that I'm worried about that, but with you around, the selection of single women looking for a REAL good guy is just a bit larger. Even we get sick of you sometimes, though, and wish you would grow a pair and just go for what you want.

REPOST if you are a girl who wants to educate the self-proclaimed "nice guys" so that they might actually become datable.

OR: Repost if you are a guy who is sick of your male friends being wusses.
 

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Originally posted by DJDamage
All Nice Guys need to watch this:

http://www.ryanmcfaul.com/mirror/gb_medium.html

Gay Boyfriend = Nice Guy
that was great, the b itches in the movies didn't like how the guys were looking at others and how the other guy probably had another girl kissing him, tough s hit w hores; all the man simply wants in life is 1. good sex, 2. good food 3. alcohol - ; women on the other hand need a top 10-20 list of things they want from a guy that only a f aggot can provide. we're guys you stupid women, you either bow down to us or we'll start looking elsewhere.

a f aggot will never hurt the girl, never make fun of her, always be patient for her, won't be sexually aggressive, very affectionate in a friendly way, and he'll always be there for her. and about 5-10 other bulls hit things.
 

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That article is great, it explains everything NOT to do with superb detail.
 

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Anti-Ode to Nice Guys

Do you realize how incredibly sick I am everytime I hear "Why do girls always want a nice guy, all the while, she's dating a a**hole?"

Rule #1 - You don't ever say that to a girl already in a relationship because if you really were a nice guy, you wouldn't have the intention of destroying a relationship just so that you can "step in" as Prince Charming. While women don't prefer being treated like sh*t by their a**hole boyfriends, odds are that same a**hole was a nice guy when they first met, just like you. But the real difference between you, a self-proclaimed nice guy, and the a**hole is that you're the one acting immature these signs eventually point to YOU becoming the real a**hole.

Rule #2 - Shut up already, we don't care if YOU think you're nice. We care if WE think you're nice. Nice and desperate are two completely different things. You can be nicest, most sweetest man in the world but if you're giving off the "I'm a nice guy to any girl that might possibly show the slightest notion of interest" vibe. It just doesn't matter. You're nice because you're desperate, not because you're nice.

Rule #3 - OK suppose you are a nice guy. Fine. But are you confident? You can be nicest, most sweetest man in the world but if you're constantly asking her whether or not your hairline is thinning out, it just doesn't matter. You might as well as her if that outfit makes you look fat. At the rate you're going, you might as well chalk up any type of relationship you'll ever have with her up to the title shopping buddy, because that's the title that pussies get. And if you have no confidence, then you, my friend, are a p*ssy. You have to convince yourself because you can convince anybody else that you're amazing.

Rule #4 - Don't
Don't nag. Don't be jealous when she picks the a**hole over you. Don't feel bad when she runs to you with her relationship problems. Don't cut her off from your life when she's not sensitive to your feelings. Don't ignore her when she tells you over and over again she just wants you to be her friend. Don't feel transparent when she says she's lonely, but you can tell she's hardly lonely enough to want you. Don't get mad when she asks for a hug and really only wants a hug. Don't push her away with YOUR needs, because it is quite obvious that your needs conflict with hers.

And why don't you do these things? Because you're a nice guy, and nice guys always finish last.

(this was taken and edited from a different forum)
 

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Why be arsed with being an ******* to please some dumb chick anyway ? Being an absolute nice guy is a waste of time as well.

Be nice to the people that are worthy, excepting the chicks you want to date ofcourse ..
 
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