there are so many ways to get girls. You don't have to be a natural or anything. The reason I even found any of this stuff online is because I was a junior in high school. I was painfully shy, but a good kid. I was motivated, a good lookin kid, had a job, played sports, worked out and got along with others good. I was just nervous as hell around girls. It was unbelievable how I would only carry a short convorsation with them.
I went out with a few girls but never got past the first or second date. Never even kissed a girl till my senior year. I was just nervous when I was with them.
I did a search online and found askmen, david d's book and newsletter and marius P's newsletter. That helped me out a lot because I had all the tools just not the confidence. I was no longer afraid and good things happened.
I would like to think I would have figured it out eventually. I was a nice kid, just too nice at times.
I think a lot of people on here (or at least a lot in the HS forum) are missing a lot in their lifes, and are tryin way too hard to mack it to girls. They have no social skills and don't know how to seperate the good advice (theres a lot out there) from the bad (theres even more of that out there). In my mind these guys are kinda screwed, maybe not for gettin a girl but for stayin in a long term relationship with a good woman.
