You approach 10 random women in a bar/club ... What's the breakdown of typical responses?

[Dingo]

This is a pretty representative sampling of 10:

I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
HA HA HA HA HA HA
(walks away before I can say anything)

Lol...

 

[JonnyX]

This is a pretty representative sampling of 10:

I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
HA HA HA HA HA HA
(walks away before I can say anything)

I forgot about this.

You: "Hey cool shirt..."
Her: (poker face) "I have a boyfriend"

Almost every time. Doesn't even matter what type of opener you use.

I note the only guy in this thread claiming clubs are easy is a huge ripped white guy. lol. No sh1t.

 

[JonnyX]

Far too much mental masturbation.

You hit on bishs. You go get baee. Its justbin your nature.

Life's too ****ing boring not to try.

Outcome is irrelevant. Obv,calibrate and step your game up but, note, playing house and pandering to the feminine biological strategy isn't the solution.

You make moves because your are a man. Its in your nature. The actual move is irrelevant. Its about being the sort of man that is making moves. Its about path. Purpose. Life direction. Self actualization.

Playing house with a fat wife and a household full of kids most likely not your own while contemplation of going Kurt Cobain on the world is stupidity.

Well it's not really irrelevant. Like I said, you spend 1 hour getting ready, $10-20 on parking or Uber, 20-30 min driving to and from the club, $10 cover, $20 on 2-3 drinks, 3-4 hours of blasting music, hit on 10-20 girls max which feels like pulling teeth because they don't even want to have a basic conversation, and leave at 2 AM with nothing to show for it at the end except the precious memory of your night.

Meanwhile if you're a tall/handsome white dude you just show up, hang out by the bar or wherever, and wait for girls to start orbiting or intentionally bumping into you.

If you've done this more than 20-30 times, and seen the other side of that coin as well, definitely outcome matters.

At a certain point it feels like it's not really worth it. Almost any other way you can spend your nights, even if it's just sitting at home working on a hobby or watching TV, becomes more appealing.

 

[malz1]

Well it's not really irrelevant. Like I said, you spend 1 hour getting ready, $10-20 on parking or Uber, 20-30 min driving to and from the club, $10 cover, $20 on 2-3 drinks, 3-4 hours of blasting music, hit on 10-20 girls max which feels like pulling teeth because they don't even want to have a basic conversation, and leave at 2 AM with nothing to show for it at the end except the precious memory of your night.

Meanwhile if you're a tall/handsome white dude you just show up, hang out by the bar or wherever, and wait for girls to start orbiting or intentionally bumping into you.

If you've done this more than 20-30 times, and seen the other side of that coin as well, definitely outcome matters.

At a certain point it feels like it's not really worth it. Almost any other way you can spend your nights, even if it's just sitting at home working on a hobby or watching TV, becomes more appealing.

Why must they be white? All ethnicities have tall, handsome men.

 

[JonnyX]

Why must they be white? All ethnicities have tall, handsome men.

Sure. But women love white guys on average more than the other races. For example, this guy:

Gets fewer matches on Tinder than this guy:

 

[malz1]

Sure. But women love white guys on average more than the other races. For example, this guy:

Gets fewer matches on Tinder than this guy:

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How would you know the match rate between those two? Is there an experiment source to this? Also one subject set can't be used to generalize larger populations. Besides we're not talking about the averages here, and general statistics aren't always useful.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Well it's not really irrelevant. Like I said, you spend 1 hour getting ready, $10-20 on parking or Uber, 20-30 min driving to and from the club, $10 cover, $20 on 2-3 drinks, 3-4 hours of blasting music, hit on 10-20 girls max which feels like pulling teeth because they don't even want to have a basic conversation, and leave at 2 AM with nothing to show for it at the end except the precious memory of your night.

Meanwhile if you're a tall/handsome white dude you just show up, hang out by the bar or wherever, and wait for girls to start orbiting or intentionally bumping into you.

Wtf is up with your envy for white men?

Are you a homosexual?

I em picking up on s broke back mountain vibe.

If you've done this more than 20-30 times, and seen the other side of that coin as well, definitely outcome matters.

The only thing evident here is your bicurious envy for white males.

At a certain point it feels like it's not really worth it.

Feelers?

Nobody gives a flying ****kkk about your feelers.

Nobody cares about women or their feelers. Dudes just want to empty their balls.

Almost any other way you can spend your nights, even if it's just sitting at home working on a hobby or watching TV, becomes more appealing.[/QUOTE

Its not worth it for women to procreate with you. Hence your lack of success with girls and the dominance hierarchy. You prefer to stew in victimhood and durrr around. So be it.

Your entire post reeked of low testosterone and arguably emittance to homosexuality. Like, as if to say you seen one up close more before and then once.

Quite honestly ,I don't care.

If it's not worth it, give up. Your genes are weeded out of existence. Good riddance. The world has enough cucks and soy Boys.

Your genes won't be missed.

More baee for me.

Or you could MaN up. You could grow a pair and go get baeeeee.

Lose the white male envy. Its gayyyyyyy.

You want to go out into the world having made some use of yourself. You want to be a walking DHV. You want to annihilate this dominance hierarchy.

You go out, you swing the ****ing hammer, acquire $$$$$, go get based but, your dream and vision is what you call All-In on. Its about the male biological strategy (whatever that is to you, your purpose, and dream).

Its not this pandering girlie MaN **** fest

 

[JonnyX]

Wtf is up with your envy for white men?

Are you a homosexual?

I em picking up on s broke back mountain vibe.



The only thing evident here is your bicurious envy for white males.



Feelers?

Nobody gives a flying ****kkk about your feelers.

Nobody cares about women or their feelers. Dudes just want to empty their balls.

Pointing out that being white is a massive criteria for women is just acknowledging reality. Are you Indian/Chinese? Have you ever tried getting a date as an Indian/Chinese guy?

>30% of Indian/Chinese guys are now celibate and the percent is skyrocketing annually.

Meanwhile, our women are ****ing at record rates - they're just ****ing guys of other races (ie. mostly white guys):

This is not my opinion. These are the facts. Pretending it's not happening doesn't stop it from happening. Deluding myself about women's racial biases doesn't stop women from having those racial biases.

Race, height, and face predict at least 70% of all dating success a man will or won't have in life. Show me a short, ugly Chinese/Indian guy who's living a fantastic dating life without celebrity or millions/billions of dollars on his side.

 

[Mrpua]

I personally dont have enough experience to answer your question, but I know a guy in real life who does a lot of approaches. a lot. like every girl that he sees, he talks to. every single one. well, of course as long as she is not fat. he simply doesn't care. to the point that I think he is crazy or a sociopath. like the other day, me and him were out and he approached this girl who was walking with this gang-looking guy. I told him "dont do it, you're going to get beat up" he did it anyway.
to answer your question, I can tell you he is a pretty decent looking guy, around 5'7" and his success rate is pretty much like yours. most people nicely reject him, some reject him rudely, some don't give him a chance...once in a great while he ends up taking the girl home. but for him, it's not about the result. when a girl rejects him, it doesn't phase him, the rejection doesn't even enter his mind, 2 seconds later he is already talking to another girl. I dont know what's wrong with him.

 

[skinnyguy]

I personally dont have enough experience to answer your question, but I know a guy in real life who does a lot of approaches. a lot. like every girl that he sees, he talks to. every single one. well, of course as long as she is not fat. he simply doesn't care. to the point that I think he is crazy or a sociopath. like the other day, me and him were out and he approached this girl who was walking with this gang-looking guy. I told him "dont do it, you're going to get beat up" he did it anyway.
to answer your question, I can tell you he is a pretty decent looking guy, around 5'7" and his success rate is pretty much like yours. most people nicely reject him, some reject him rudely, some don't give him a chance...once in a great while he ends up taking the girl home. but for him, it's not about the result. when a girl rejects him, it doesn't phase him, the rejection doesn't even enter his mind, 2 seconds later he is already talking to another girl. I dont know what's wrong with him.

I wanna be that guy honestly. If I can do approaches one after one without caring about the result, I’d be unstoppable.

 

[malz1]

Pointing out that being white is a massive criteria for women is just acknowledging reality. Are you Indian/Chinese? Have you ever tried getting a date as an Indian/Chinese guy?

>30% of Indian/Chinese guys are now celibate and the percent is skyrocketing annually.

Meanwhile, our women are ****ing at record rates - they're just ****ing guys of other races (ie. mostly white guys):

This is not my opinion. These are the facts. Pretending it's not happening doesn't stop it from happening. Deluding myself about women's racial biases doesn't stop women from having those racial biases.

Race, height, and face predict at least 70% of all dating success a man will or won't have in life. Show me a short, ugly Chinese/Indian guy who's living a fantastic dating life without celebrity or millions/billions of dollars on his side.

You avoided my questions and went of on a red herring. I also doubt you are speaking 'facts'...

I'm not chinese/indian but I'm also not white.

Any person sub7 is usually deemed unattractive regardless of race. Anyone 7+ in most environments are deemed attractive so the 'whiteness' point is moot.

 

[IKO69]

Sure. But women love white guys on average more than the other races. For example, this guy:

Gets fewer matches on Tinder than this guy:

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That isn't true unless the guy's bio on the bottom mentions his yacht and garage full of luxury cars. Dudes appearances aren't what I really care about but the man above would be considered more handsome, even by white women.

Anyways this thread has been entertaining. It has motivated me to keep a log of interactions I have with women (that I will approach). Perhaps i'll post it for educational purposes.

I personally dont have enough experience to answer your question, but I know a guy in real life who does a lot of approaches. a lot. like every girl that he sees, he talks to. every single one. well, of course as long as she is not fat. he simply doesn't care. to the point that I think he is crazy or a sociopath. like the other day, me and him were out and he approached this girl who was walking with this gang-looking guy. I told him "dont do it, you're going to get beat up" he did it anyway.
to answer your question, I can tell you he is a pretty decent looking guy, around 5'7" and his success rate is pretty much like yours. most people nicely reject him, some reject him rudely, some don't give him a chance...once in a great while he ends up taking the girl home. but for him, it's not about the result. when a girl rejects him, it doesn't phase him, the rejection doesn't even enter his mind, 2 seconds later he is already talking to another girl. I dont know what's wrong with him.

He just doesn't care. That's the best kind of mentality to have if you want to be a ho-chaser but it just ends up being a waste of time as you pointed out. We always hear about confidence and all this other **** on here. Well what shows more confidence than to approach a random woman? Most guys are scared to death of doing it. Your friend has probably done it so many times it's second nature so women must be like "wow, the balls on this guy" but it still amounts to nothing. That is why ho-chasing is downright foolish. If you have the goods they make it obvious they want to talk, haul your ass over then.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Pointing out that being white is a massive criteria for women is just acknowledging reality. Are you Indian/Chinese? Have you ever tried getting a date as an Indian/Chinese guy?

Are you saying Asian and Indian women can't get laid?

You should get your testosterone checked.

>30% of Indian/Chinese guys are now celibate and the percent is skyrocketing annually.

Your victim narrative is cute.

I like how you spent time on a theory as to why you are pathetic, why women don't like you, and how your mediocrity is excusable.

Its called a self-fulfilling-prophecy.

Nobody cares. Mate, nobody cares. You can't pull?

Step up or get out of my way.

Meanwhile, our women are ****ing at record rates - they're just ****ing guys of other races (ie. mostly white guys):

Women are cratering their SMV. What's your point?

New giros are turning 18 everyday.

You ain't doing it right kuz.

This is not my opinion. These are the facts. Pretending it's not happening doesn't stop it from happening. Deluding myself about women's racial biases doesn't stop women from having those racial biases.

So, your take is crying on the internet?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/

Here another forum you may enjoy.

Race, height, and face predict at least 70% of all dating success a man will or won't have in life. Show me a short, ugly Chinese/Indian guy who's living a fantastic dating life without celebrity or millions/billions of dollars on his side.

I get it. You're an incel and you are crying.

I am entertained by your lack thereof in the masculinity and testosterone but,the real men are talking.

Go find a soy boy forum.

Can't get baee? Its OK. The real men will. I'll post back thstvwomen only want me for BBC.

You mad?

 

[characternote]

Results are similar to mine, i'd say.

It's not about 'game'. There's no magic lines or whatever that make girls want you.

All of the stuff you read about in game (dusqialifying her/yourself, negs, teasing, cold reads, assumptions, routines, dhv stories, self ammusement etc) can help increase existing attraction, but can't 'create' it, really. You're either her type or you aren't.

Personally, on any given night out, my results seems similar.

Approach 9 girls.

3 girls will be like ''Not interested. Go away'' after I open and will walk away or whatever before I even get a chance. Nothing I say can 'turn' these girls. Not possible. I'm not their physical type. '

2 girls will listen to me, but will not ask me a single thing, will only give one-word answers and will more or less turn their backs to show me that they aren't interested in me but will tolerate me for a short while.

4 girls will be fairly receptive. Will talk back. Might ask me some questions. But I can tell that they are more the friendly, sociable girl and they aren't sexually interested. I can usually confirm this when I start to try to get a little physical, or flirt or drop some statements of intent etc or even run some old school game and disqualify her as a potential partner

If I approach enough girls (maybe 100 or so?) i'll find a 'yes' girl who is also kinda hot. She'll be receptive to my open, will fill in the silences in convo shortly after teh open, ask questions, give me long answers, a certain kind of eye contact I can recognise etc, and if logistics and other things are good, i'll get the lay. But tbh, I don't really feel 'game' comes into it. With 'yes girs' the only 'game' you need is to not be super super weird. And with 'no girls', no amount of 'game' can change her mind. You're just not her physical type

 

[Who Dares Win]

In my case it strictly depends on the country, southern europe cant tell out of 10 girls cause there arent 10 decent girls in the herd of guys that makes 90% of the club population.

in uk unless you are a gay guy looking for pakistani and africans, you will hardly appreciate the club scene.

Now northern europe and easter europe thats where I put some effort given the potential gain coming to those who dare.

Im not a chad, Im average height and weight altough I have a muscular frame and a belligerent body language which many girls like, I would say I'm a 6 overall and my hairline far from perfect doesnt help.

I follow mr good stuff line in approaching only girls that got in my radar after showing me green light with their body language, this way I usually get good feedbacks unless I screw up of some cvnt c0ck block me, the bigger obstacle I found are "her friends", if I manage to isolate an interested girl is 90% sure that I get her number, make out with her and possibly take her home or see her the next day.

Now if my plan was to just approach girls like with no regard of their prior green light, that would probably be a much lower count, possibly around a 20% score.

Sometime I saw no interested girl and just moved venue not to waste time and money, I also do not validate or pay my currency (attention) to girls that aint going to give me anything back.

My suggestion to anyone is to increase his SMV as much as possible and then play with more efficient tools the same match, its not a matter of effort as much as passing her minimum SMV test, some girls are strict when it comes of looks while other when it comes of status, the more your grow one and the easier will be for you to grow the others.

Do not join a match with no tools or gear thinking you can make it with "more effort".

 

[marmel75]

Depends on several different factors.

1) What time of night are you doing theae approaches? You will likely see different results if trying this in the early hours, peak hours or late hours of the club being open.

2) What is you conversational ability? If you have no ability to communicate well with others or stutter and stammer then you probably are going to have a much harder time than someone who doesn't.

3) How good do you look/how well are you dressed/what type of shape are you in? This plays a major role into how receptive someone is going to be.

4) How much do you do this type of thing? Someone who does like every night for 2 years will get much different results than a guy doing it his first night.

5) What night is this? Weekend nights are going to be different than weekdays in terms of clientele and types of people usually. Based on your personality you may do better in one scenario than the other due to the type of people there.

6) How drunk are you? If you are drunk you likely arent going to be making good impressions.

7) How many people do you know there? Being seen as someone who "knows a lot of people" or is "in demand" gives you a lot of "juice" in this type of environment where everyone is pretending to be something they aren't (I know, I saw it all as a long time former club DJ). This will have women checking you out and being openly receptive to finding out about you.

I bring up all of these points because THERE IS NO "normal". There are so many variables at play in these situations that nobody can put out an average that really can hold much value because that average only pertains to a very narrow situation or is strongly based on the types of people.