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Yet another reason to NOT consume HFCS!

TyTe`EyEs

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I drank a lot of sodas as a child. I was also one of the most athletic kids around. It should be common knowledge that being a fat ass might lead to health problems. I don't think sodas have anything to do with someone being a lazy fvck.
 

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Yes corn syrup alone won't kill you.

However, it is a major and stupid problem in North America. Corn is crammed into everything (because farmers like growing it so it's cheap).


It's crammed into places where it really does not belong. Really sort of scary if you read food labels; drinks have corn, chocolate bars have corn, basically any packaged food has corn products. Most livestock is fed corn nowadays, but guess what, cows aren't ment to eat corn, they should be eating grass.

Outside of North America corn is virtually unused. In my personal experience, this is a very noticible difference. Foods taste different, but better, and people are healthier.

Of course we can't blame all of our problems on corn, many are just lazy asses, but it significant part.

Just ask yourself why virtually anything you eat contains corn syrup. Is it because it's good for you, or because it's good for the producers?
 

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TyTe`EyEs said:
I drank a lot of sodas as a child. I was also one of the most athletic kids around. It should be common knowledge that being a fat ass might lead to health problems. I don't think sodas have anything to do with someone being a lazy fvck.
You were athletic because of genetics. You could have been more athletic if you ate well.
 

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SmoothTalker said:
Yes corn syrup alone won't kill you.

However, it is a major and stupid problem in North America. Corn is crammed into everything (because farmers like growing it so it's cheap).


It's crammed into places where it really does not belong. Really sort of scary if you read food labels; drinks have corn, chocolate bars have corn, basically any packaged food has corn products. Most livestock is fed corn nowadays, but guess what, cows aren't ment to eat corn, they should be eating grass.

Outside of North America corn is virtually unused. In my personal experience, this is a very noticible difference. Foods taste different, but better, and people are healthier.

Of course we can't blame all of our problems on corn, many are just lazy asses, but it significant part.

Just ask yourself why virtually anything you eat contains corn syrup. Is it because it's good for you, or because it's good for the producers?
Who knows what's going to happen in the future sine a ton of the corn harvest is going toward Ethanol production.
 

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I read a study about the rate of breast cancer being higher in Mexico, and one of the theories behind that was their heavy consumption of corn in a diet heavy in corn chips, tortillas, and HFCS-sweetened drinks.
 

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ive known this for years and done my best to avoid it always.
 

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Ah don't even get me started on ethanol..

I've seen figures that in total, the production of a gallon of ethanol uses 3/4 a gallon of fossil fuels, if not more. It is entirely useless as a replacement for oil and will never provide a significant portion of our energy.

One of the major reasons it's so popular is politics. It makes sense to push something grown by voting Americans than by foreigners that want to kill us.

Lol, I probably sound like a conspiracy nut, but I really am not. I just don't immediately jump on the band wagon just because some tree huggers say something's a good idea.
 

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Well, gatorade is loaded with this stuff, and it's something I drink often. What is a good alternative? Drinking plain water does not cut it on some hard days.
 

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SmoothTalker said:
Yes corn syrup alone won't kill you.

However, it is a major and stupid problem in North America. Corn is crammed into everything (because farmers like growing it so it's cheap).


It's crammed into places where it really does not belong. Really sort of scary if you read food labels; drinks have corn,

Outside of North America corn is virtually unused. In my personal experience, this is a very noticible difference. Foods taste different, but better, and people are healthier.
What are you talking about dude? The price of corn is rapidly increasing and driving up the price of damn near everything: chicken, beef, whey... Thank ethanol, the agricultural industry, and our bribed government for perpetuating the MYTH that ethanol is cleaner.

And HFCS is obviously linked to diabetes. Spike your insulin up and down like crazy nonstop all day and then the system goes into crazy mode and you're fvcked: diabetes. Pretty much any sugar is going to do this.

Here's a decent article written by a guy trying to prevent himself from getting diabetes like his parents (if i remember right) by using a glucose meter to see what foods spike his levels and then avoiding them:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/4/22/112114/202
 

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Falcon said:
Well, gatorade is loaded with this stuff, and it's something I drink often. What is a good alternative? Drinking plain water does not cut it on some hard days.
The gatorade in powder form doesn't use this syrup. Compare the labels and they have different ingredients. It seems pretty obvious a powder couldn't have a syrup in it, huh?

I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with HFCS itself. I believe it's just fructose in concentrated form. It comes down to ARE YOU USING IT RIGHT NOW. Sitting online typing posts isnt the time to be drinking gatorade, which is the typical usage I see people partaking. If you're out playing roller hockey for hours then it's just peachy.

Insulin spikes aren't bad (except for the part that insulin is telling your fat cells to store fat).. it's just the constant up and downs of a high sugar diet that seem to screw up the system.

I've actually seen it listed before on the web how to make your own gatorade.. it's basically like sugar and salt mixed together.

You know what i just looked at my gatorade powder and it lists partially hydrogenated soybean oil as one of the ingredients.. TRANSFAT. Okay, no more of that for me.
 

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MrRuckus, if you read my second post you'll see that I already know that ethanol is a politically motivated, over hyped myth. As for the cost of corn driving the cost of everything else up, yes it may be, but in my opinion livestock shouldn't be eating corn anyway.

On a side note, milk is supposed to have lots of healthy minerals. Calcium, magnesium, etc. But where do cows get these minerals naturally? From eating grass and other green plants, which contain lots of calcium. (Just look up the calcium content of spinach). Corn on the other hand, not nearly as good.

Sorry I can't find a more definitive source at the moment, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup mentions why US producers use corn. Due to the subsidizing of corn and tarrifs on sugar, corn syrup is half the price of sugar.

Note that even American companies like Coke and Pepsi sweeten their drinks with REAL sugar outside of North America. I always thought European coke tasted a bit different, now I know at least on of the differences.

Perhaps this will change as ethanol drives up prices, as you say. Or perhaps this run-up will just encourage the production of more corn, and when ethanol is abandoned, they'll have a huge surplus that they'll stuff into us some other way.
 

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SmoothTalker said:
Ah don't even get me started on ethanol..

I've seen figures that in total, the production of a gallon of ethanol uses 3/4 a gallon of fossil fuels, if not more. It is entirely useless as a replacement for oil and will never provide a significant portion of our energy.

One of the major reasons it's so popular is politics. It makes sense to push something grown by voting Americans than by foreigners that want to kill us.

Lol, I probably sound like a conspiracy nut, but I really am not. I just don't immediately jump on the band wagon just because some tree huggers say something's a good idea.
You are 100% correct.
 

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Outside of North America corn is virtually unused.
You said this. Untrue. See europe and china.

Increased meat consumption worldwide alone is increasing demand for corn for feed without even mention of ethanol.


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Corn is crammed into everything (because farmers like growing it so it's cheap).
And this. Not cheap. My first reading of this was "they like growing it so it's cheap to everyone," but maybe you meant they like growing it because it's cheap to grow.


Note that even American companies like Coke and Pepsi sweeten their drinks with REAL sugar outside of North America.
I didn't make any comparisons of sugar to corn. I don't know what you mean by REAL sugar other than I assume you mean cane sugar. Fructose is just as much sugar as anything else. Is this syrup any worse than any other sugar anyway? It's all still just fructose, glucose, sucrose (basically fructose+glucose linked and broken into those during digestion anyway)...
 
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