WTF?! This girl asks me out and then.......

[OTB]

Okay fellow DJs, you gotta help me out here:

this is a very unusual predicament I am in, AFTER being asked out on a date by HER

So to start off, I met this chick through Myspace after she friend requested me as a result of me talking to her cute friend
****For your info, this chick is younger than be but she's a solid HB 8.5****
****Her Display name is a heart, so we'll call her LOVE from now on.......****

Anyway, I start talking to her on Myspace and theses are the comments:
(you can skip these if you feel they are irrelevant for now)


Me: So tell me,
HOW exactly did love find me?
lmao <333333333

Her: oh hello OTB
yes, the LOVE sure did find you.


Me: Let me take a wild guess: (insert her friends name)
said something about me? LMAO
And by the way,
Why does (insert random retard's name) keep commenting you with the same thing?
What you don't talk to him? rofl
vvvvvvv

Her: (insert her friends name) didnt say anything about youu.. just when i saw you, there was someting about you that cought my attentionn...
& (insert random retard's name) isnt man enough for me.

Me: Are you sure our (insert her friends name) did say ANYTHING about me? LOL
"just when i saw you, there was someting about you that cought my attentionn..."
Try to remeber what exactly it was, I'm really interested to know what it was.....
" (insert random retard's name) isnt man enough for me." ----> LMFAO XD
hahahaha!
How exactly isn't he man enough,
Doesn't he make up for it by looking pretty ----->
Isn't he gorgeous enough for you?

Her: i think it was the way you were looking at me in your defualt, i just saw a connection in your facial experession between us.
+ being gorgoues isnt everything, yu have to have a heart. THATS WHAT A REAL MAN IS.



And yeah, I know by that conversation you'd think I'd already have this sh!t in the bad (Thanks to the large amount of time I've spent builing up my Myspace game)
BUT, this obviously isn't the end of the story! -----> We'll get to the Private Messages and her asking ME out on a date in this next post......

 

[OTB]

CONTINUED from the previous post.......

So here are the messages for your enlightenment:


Message Title: So what else do you have going for you besides your good looks?
(I learned this killer from Mystery, Smooth I know )

Me: So what else do you have going for you besides your good looks?
Tell me.....

Her: i have everything you can ever imagineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Me: ahahaha!
"everything you can ever imagineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
You truly do have the greatest responses! lmao XD
You seem like a really cool person
Give me you number, I'll hit you up later tonight

Her: sure..
but if you have noticed tonight wouldnt be so great beacuse of the weather outside unless you want to play in the rain
& i belive i have work.
but i would love to join you anyother day, for a cup of tea/coffeee?

Me: Hahaha...
I think you misintrpreted what I meant in my previous message:
I didn't actually ask you out (at least not yet ), I asked you to give me your NUMBER # so that I can talk to you whenever i want
(without having to log into Myspace everytime I wish to do so! LMAO)
And about the weather, I actually LOVE thunderstorms! =D
And I wouldn't mind playing in the rain
But yeah, now's not a good time for me either....
(for an undisclosed number of reasons)
And your your giving me the choice between:
Grandma's tea & sickly overpriced Starbuck's Coffee?!?!?!
LMAO ROFL XD
Don't worry Love, I'LL find something just a bit better
And so I have your number for certain -----> hit me up right now:

Her: ohh so i see you wouldnt ask me on a date.
but... i did understand that your not asking me out, the point of that was that i am asking YOU out for a cup of teaaaa, i dont drink coffee so starbucks isnt one of my favorite places to be.
and if you do have something better to do, make sure you let LOVE know.



So after this wonderful game of back & forth I begin to call her........

Friday:
I had 1 Short & Sweet convo with her while she was at work
She seemed really into me and was all happy & bubbly during our conversation

Saturday:
Call her right before going to this party -----> trying to take her with me and go out for the first time
She doesn't pick up, but I DON'T leave her a voicemail message (since I recently found out this displays submission to her will and a lack of dominant Alpha Male qualities on my part)

Sunday:
I call her at like 11:30/12:00 midnight in order to find out how her weekend went and to practice "Phone Game" on her
(She doesn't pick up, and I DON'T leave a voice mail message)

Monday:
I walking home in a bad mood and the fact that she hasn't answered 3 of my past calls begins to dawn on me..... And in a fit of anger I leave this strategically worded voice mail on her phone saying:
Hello I Love, I Absolutely LOVE how you ****in' gave me your number and asked me to call...... Yet, you don't respond -----> I thought you were a girl with manners.... but.....Apparently I was wrong....

 

[OTB]

So what do you guys think would be the proper course of action for me right now?......

Am I just overreacting to all of this typical female bullsh!t? :cuss:

What could be her reason for not returning my past 3 calls? Or does she even need a reason?

Did she just flake on me in order to test how far I will chase after her?

I'm pretty sure that she secretly wants me ----> Judging from her words, her actions, and the fact that
SHE was the one that ASKED ME OUT!

What should I do at this point in time & how long should I wait before contacting her again???
(whether it be by phone or Myspace)

No matter the outcome of my new endeavor with her, I not gonna develop oneitus for her as a result of the timeless aphorism of "There are plenty of Fish in the Sea!" finally sinking into my head

On a related note, I am officially fully cured of my affliction with my former oneitus
(but that is a story I will reserve for a separate thread )


So what do you fellow Don Juans recommend?
Any and all help & constructive criticism is welcomed & greatly appreciated!

 

[SinJester]

Hey can I ask you something firt, you have been saying that you've been working on your myspace game, how is this going for you? I mean have you met up with any other chicks you have met of myspace before? How did that go?

Personally I find myspace and msn game ridiculously easy now. You have enough time to come up with the perfect answer for anything, and it is very easy because you probably wont be feeling nervous or anything. I can easily get a chick interested online but I find it pretty useless unless you have solid game in the first place (unless it is just to set up a situation where you can work on your game, it's all practise). If you act confident on MSN but aren't in real life then it wont be congruent and it probably wont work out. A lot of the time she will build you up in your head and you simply wont be what she is expecting. Now I only use msn/myspace on chicks that have seen a decent amount of me in person to avoid that, unless they add me.

So about you conversation, it's a little odd. You probably shouldn't have reacted so much, it's a sign of weakness. But there is a paradox because at some times you have to take a stance and react so she can feel your boundries. In any case you should just let her come and contact you next. Game other girls while you are waiting, and if she doesn't then after awhile you can re-establish contanct.

In any case I'm sure it was a test. Girls liked to be the ones that are being chased. They are masters at game without even knowing it. Even when they are interested they might make you interested in them but then make you chase them so they are in control. Just don't let her mind games get to you, as long as you are aware of them that's enough. You should view them as fun, not frustrating, unless you want a hard life.

Congrats on your onitus btw!!

That's my 2 cents, hope it helps somewhat.

 

[rkc09]

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[rkc09]

Congrats on your onitus btw!!
.

LOL!!!!!:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

But I agree SinJester is right. Girls play these games just to gain control. They want us to be the man enough to take the control away from them. What I used to do with this girl that I dated back in the winter worked wonders. And SHE TESTED GUYS FOR A LIVING!!! So what I used to do is whenever I knew is was testing me or playing games I'll (playfully) call her out on it. Her facial expression will be priceless! This gave me control in the relationship and made her more attracted to me. Plus it made her laugh. So next time she does stuff like this just playfully call her out.

 

[ARrocket]

ok, dude, first of all, before we go into why she didn't return your calls....you called her WAY too much. Ok, you called her once....that's fine.

You called her the next day. Now, you said you were inviting her somewhere, so I guess you had an excuse. For future reference, you should have left a message at this point.

You shouldn't have called her on Sunday.

And you shouldn't have left that message.

Now then...don't contact her for a couple of weeks, and hit her up on myspace after that. If she responds well, you can try ONE more time....

 

[OTB]

Hey can I ask you something firt, you have been saying that you've been working on your myspace game, how is this going for you? I mean have you met up with any other chicks you have met of myspace before? How did that go?

Personally I find myspace and msn game ridiculously easy now. You have enough time to come up with the perfect answer for anything, and it is very easy because you probably wont be feeling nervous or anything.

Okay, First off, to answer that:
Myspace game is mad easy!

I have met several chicks from Myspace before....
But that was when I was still in my AFC stage, so therefore -----> no positive results came from it

I can easily get a chick interested online but I find it pretty useless unless you have solid game in the first place (unless it is just to set up a situation where you can work on your game, it's all practise). If you act confident on MSN but aren't in real life then it wont be congruent and it probably wont work out.

Truer words have never been spoken on this topic!
Thankfully, I realized that before I spent all my time & energy into so-called "Myspace Game"

A lot of the time she will build you up in your head and you simply wont be what she is expecting. Now I only use msn/myspace on chicks that have seen a decent amount of me in person to avoid that, unless they add me.

Really? So you never add b!tches yourself?
That's a really interesting point.....
BUT, I know that a lot of chicks make Myspaces and set up profiles for solely that reason ------>
to get hit on & and meet more guys they would potentially want to fvck

So about you conversation, it's a little odd. You probably shouldn't have reacted so much, it's a sign of weakness. But there is a paradox because at some times you have to take a stance and react so she can feel your boundries. In any case you should just let her come and contact you next. Game other girls while you are waiting, and if she doesn't then after awhile you can re-establish contanct.

In any case I'm sure it was a test. Girls liked to be the ones that are being chased. They are masters at game without even knowing it. Even when they are interested they might make you interested in them but then make you chase them so they are in control. Just don't let her mind games get to you, as long as you are aware of them that's enough. You should view them as fun, not frustrating, unless you want a hard life.

Congrats on your onitus btw!!

On the topic of my conversation, I am the type of person that reacts to almost anything.....
Which although is the exact opposite of the passive AFC behavior, it really isn't DJ either

Re-establish contact with this b!tch after how long?
I know for a fact that she wants me, yet she also wants to see how I react to all her stupid little games......

That's my 2 cents, hope it helps somewhat.

It didn't just help somewhat, it actually helped a lot!

 

[OTB]

But I agree SinJester is right. Girls play these games just to gain control. They want us to be the man enough to take the control away from them. What I used to do with this girl that I dated back in the winter worked wonders. And SHE TESTED GUYS FOR A LIVING!!! So what I used to do is whenever I knew is was testing me or playing games I'll (playfully) call her out on it. Her facial expression will be priceless! This gave me control in the relationship and made her more attracted to me. Plus it made her laugh. So next time she does stuff like this just playfully call her out.

Wow, that sounds like the perfect way to counteract all of their mind-games and other feminine bullsh!t

How exactly would you go about it?
Can you please give an a quick example of the proper response / you calling her out on one of these sh!t-tests?

Thanks in advance

 

[OTB]

ok, dude, first of all, before we go into why she didn't return your calls....you called her WAY too much. Ok, you called her once....that's fine.

You called her the next day. Now, you said you were inviting her somewhere, so I guess you had an excuse. For future reference, you should have left a message at this point.

You shouldn't have called her on Sunday.

And you shouldn't have left that message.

Now then...don't contact her for a couple of weeks, and hit her up on myspace after that. If she responds well, you can try ONE more time....

So when would you say would be the only appropriate time to leave a message after a b!tch doesn't pick up?

 

[619joe]

I would have left a message the first time.

I know your sayin "dont leave a message to display alpha-male ness" but thats a bunch of bull****.There is no "mystery" floating in her head if you dont leave a voicemail message.She either calls you right back or figures its not important

When I called this girl the first time few days ago,voicemail came up and I said

"Hey (name).I must have caught you at a bad time.Listen as much as I LOVE and ADORE talking to the answering machine,Im pretty sure I like talking to your voice better.Just gimme a call when you get some free time and well talk."

She calls me half hour later (her phone was upstairs and she was busy downstairs).Your message seemed a tad bit over reacting.

 

[OTB]

I would have left a message the first time.

I know your sayin "dont leave a message to display alpha-male ness" but thats a bunch of bull****.There is no "mystery" floating in her head if you dont leave a voicemail message.She either calls you right back or figures its not important

Thanks for that head's up!

Yeah, I was falling into that trap of that many PUAs telling about phone game....
Specifically, all that "leaving a message after you call is showing a sign of weakness & creates a loss of mystery" bullsh!t, but thank GOD I just ignore that kind of unhelpful advice nowadays

When I called this girl the first time few days ago,voicemail came up and I said

"Hey (name).I must have caught you at a bad time.Listen as much as I LOVE and ADORE talking to the answering machine,Im pretty sure I like talking to your voice better.Just gimme a call when you get some free time and well talk."

She calls me half hour later (her phone was upstairs and she was busy downstairs).Your message seemed a tad bit over reacting.

First off, Yes I do agree that the voicemail that I left her was a tad bit over-reacting....
(I was way too emotionally invested in her right from the beggining ----> But won't make that mistake ever again )

But anyways, onto more important things...

The thing about this particular chick is that she claims that she absolutely HATES talking on the phone & barely even talks to her mother by phone
She said something to this extent:
"I hate talking on the phone. Nobody calls me. I barely even talk to my mother on the phone"
(All the time saying this in a cutesy, little genuine voice )

And although it also seemed like bullsh!t at the first time I heard this, she actually enjoys having phone convos with me & I can tell that her talking to me is actually sometimes the highlight of her day (only when she picks up the phone that is)

Keep in mind that I never ever had a long phone convo with her -----> We only had a handful in all, was always maintaining may Alpha-mindset & I was usually the first one to end the call due to the need for me to take other calls and answer other people.
Displaying an automatic DHV right off the bat

The thing that puzzles me a bit about this girl is that she doesn't call me back when I tell her to -----> She tells me some sh!t like this:
"I never all people... Call ME at like 9:00. :yes: Okay? "
(And then she doesn't pick up her phone OR call me back! :box:

On one hand, it seems that she may be screwing with me.....
But on the other hand, she's actually genuinely interested & attracted to me (keep in mind she was the first one to initiate contact & actually act me out )

How would you guys explain this kind of unusual behavior on her part???


P.S. All kinds of constructive comments are welcome as always!

 

[russian2]

i think you turned her off with all of your LOL's LMFAO's and stupid smiley responses... the internet ruined your game