workplace bullying-how can i tell the manager-what can they do"

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i'm working at this place as a lot attendant , been there for 3 wks so far, there is also newer guy(jeff) whos been here for 2 weeks .
so far working with the team washing cars and picking up customers has been good.
the thing is when working with jeff on the three days he is here, he would at time be little me, call me a f** idiot.
an example i was backing into a stall in the parking lot -being a tight spot and a big suv next to it, i found it hard to park. it took sometime manuevering it and playing with the steering-eventually i got it into park.
well jeff would laugh and point and say omg why didn't you park it in straight wise -omg your a f** idiot

other times he would point out in a big attitude way--- as why i am just sitting around -when i just came back from picking up a customer-i guess he didn;'t now i just came back from picking up a customer

pretty much the guy calls me f** idiot ,omg joey your such a dumb....etc,
i think it harassement and work place bullying. i'm don;t want confrontation , but i want to report it to my manager, but what happens if he does nothing about it or goes on jeff's side, i can report it to the district manager, but what happens if he parts with jeff side too. what can i do after that then. what if they fire me or transfer me to somewhere far, where i can even work.
what are some things i can do. i want to be transferred to another location if possible or even work on his days off and have a day off when he is working

i really don't like this guy
 

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Dude this doesnt have anything to do with pickup man.This isnt the forum to release all your problems too.Next time Im pretty sure the Anything Else forum would be better

So comment him on his mess ups too man.
 

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And if you don't have the balls or wit to do that. Either pull the guy aside and be like, "look man, I don't like this ****, stop or I'll drop your ass." Then act completely fine. It's a little direct, but do him the favor of telling him to f-off.

And yah, this ain't the place.
 

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Don't be a little whiny b!tch. You need to stand up for yourself and stop running to mommy. If you're an easy target, then people will take advantage of it. Don't say crap like "stop picking on me" and "don't call me that". Tell him where you draw the line and if he crosses it one more time, he'll have to pay. Make him think you will hurt him. The more confident you are in what you say, the more likely he will back off. If he doesn't back off, it's time to back up your words. Be a fighter, man. Not a whiner.
 

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Being better and cooler then the people around you isn't ever a difficult task. Especially in this case where the guy opposing you is an absolute moron getting over on him shouldn't be that hard. The first thing you need to do is soak up some of his criticism. Being the bigger person and knowing you're better shouldn't be to hard. After that focus on findin his weak spots. They're probobly glaring but zone in on them and after you have them down exploit to no end. It's an easy chore from that point.

Getting your game together on that level shouldn't be to to difficult. Just realize that you are in charge and opressing the underlings aroudn you shouldn't be all that difficult. Faith and confidence will bring you to the promised land no doubt.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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DO NOT complain to your managers! This is like the kid complaining about the bully to the teacher. You just look like an even bigger wuss. The guy won't get fired for being a bully.

Ignore him. BE unaffected by his comments.

Agree with his remarks e.g. Calls you stupid. Answer: "Yup, I'm glad you don't need a PHD to work here." This puts him in the position of where he is calling himself stupid every time he calls you stupid.

Bully=AMOG in a slightly different context. Search for AMOG in the threads. The RSD site probably has a lot on this also - Tyler Durden is considered to be the one who brought AMOG tactics to the community (I haven't checked their sites out but there is a good chance you will find stuff there for the reason given). Remember to adjust for the fact that you see him everyday. You will want to the "befriending" tactics instead of completely blowing him out.

BTW: Chances are he thinks deserves a better job, is taking it out on you and won't stick around for long.
 

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Dude there are laws against a hostile work environment. First and foremost document what he says and who was there to witness this tell him you're uncomfortable with him calling you a f** idiot. Report him to you manager tell him your uncomfortable with Jeff's hostile attitude toward you and that it's affecting your job performance because of the emotional distress and document that if the manager doesn't take action and this harrasment keeps on going. Go straight to Human resources and make a formal complaint and still if nothing happens or they start retaliating against you talk to a lawyer and make sure you have a journal of all the incidents. If you covered your bases Jeff will be out of a job and you can sue the company if they terminate you. This ain't wussy infact the mob use legal means against their enemies. Then if the legal means fail do what the mob do. Buy your own company and hire Jeff then fire him.
 

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got fired for telling the manager i was harassed by another co worker

i was employed at this car rental place for one month, intially i applied for the rental agent postion, but when i got to the interview i was told that everyone in the company had to start from scratch -working as a lot boy(clean and wash cars, pick up customers). it was like some company policy.the interviewer actually really wanted me to work in their comapny and even told me i was given a job if i could send a driver abstarct, and a reference to them, and i could start the next week. i was hesitant at first ,but later gave in as i needed a job and work exp. he kind of lied to me too. why didn;t he just tell me the postion i was going to get.i had to bus down there for 45 minutes.

2 wks into working in the job they hired a new guy. the thing with this guy is he'll bully me or call me names.
an example i was backing into a stall in the parking lot -being a tight spot and a big suv next to it, i found it hard to park. well jeff would laugh and point and say omg why didn't you park it in straight wise -omg your a f** idiot
other times he would point out in a big attitude way--- as why i am just sitting around -when i just came back from picking up a customer-i guess he didn;'t now i just came back from picking up a customer
pretty much the guy calls me f** idiot ,omg joey your such a dumb....etc,

i complained to the manager there yesterday , and said i wasn;t going to tolerate it anymore. he told me he didn't care and that i could leave if i didn;t like it. later on when i came back from doing a check out, he said he did care and that he would talk to Jeff about it. lol what changed his mind. he said he misunderstood what i was saying, and the later he said it was b/c he was on the phone. -that i totally doubt. its just his stupid excuse

i asked if i could be transferred to another liocation,since i diddn';t like working with Jeff and he said yes after talking with the other guys.

later on in the day as my 8 hr shift was to finish ,the manager tells me that he had to let me go, since i scratch 2 of the cars previosuly by accident while in the parking lot. also b./c in that day by chance i ate in front of a customer and someone from anotehr business took pics and sended it to the district manager.(this is at another location-but same company) this happened the same day i told the manager i was verbally abused, and that i wasn;t going to tolerate it anymore. oh why didn't he fired me before hand than, and why the day i filed the complaint.

the manager is only 25 years old-total goof and is always joking around and i think he likes to take sides, as jeff has friends who are also friends with the manager-this was by chance that they happen to know each other.

what can i do, or what would you do if your in my situtaion.
 

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Get another job.

Stop being so sensitive.

Give as much as you get.

Life isn't fair
 

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Interesting to look at the last thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=145316

Everyone told you to not complain. But then some keyboard jockeying Jr. High schooler chimes in with his silly opinion, and it looks like listening cost you a job. That discussion forum is hit and miss.
 

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got fired for telling the manager i was harassed by another co worker

i was employed at this car rental place for one month, intially i applied for the rental agent postion, but when i got to the interview i was told that everyone in the company had to start from scratch -working as a lot boy(clean and wash cars, pick up customers). it was like some company policy.the interviewer actually really wanted me to work in their comapny and even told me i was given a job if i could send a driver abstarct, and a reference to them, and i could start the next week. i was hesitant at first ,but later gave in as i needed a job and work exp. he kind of lied to me too. why didn;t he just tell me the postion i was going to get.i had to bus down there for 45 minutes.

2 wks into working in the job they hired a new guy. the thing with this guy is he'll bully me or call me names.
an example i was backing into a stall in the parking lot -being a tight spot and a big suv next to it, i found it hard to park. well jeff would laugh and point and say omg why didn't you park it in straight wise -omg your a f** idiot
other times he would point out in a big attitude way--- as why i am just sitting around -when i just came back from picking up a customer-i guess he didn;'t now i just came back from picking up a customer
pretty much the guy calls me f** idiot ,omg joey your such a dumb....etc,

i complained to the manager there yesterday , and said i wasn;t going to tolerate it anymore. he told me he didn't care and that i could leave if i didn;t like it. later on when i came back from doing a check out, he said he did care and that he would talk to Jeff about it. lol what changed his mind. he said he misunderstood what i was saying, and the later he said it was b/c he was on the phone. -that i totally doubt. its just his stupid excuse

i asked if i could be transferred to another liocation,since i diddn';t like working with Jeff and he said yes after talking with the other guys.

later on in the day as my 8 hr shift was to finish ,the manager tells me that he had to let me go, since i scratch 2 of the cars previosuly by accident while in the parking lot. also b./c in that day by chance i ate in front of a customer and someone from anotehr business took pics and sended it to the district manager.(this is at another location-but same company) this happened the same day i told the manager i was verbally abused, and that i wasn;t going to tolerate it anymore. oh why didn't he fired me before hand than, and why the day i filed the complaint.

the manager is only 25 years old-total goof and is always joking around and i think he likes to take sides, as jeff has friends who are also friends with the manager-this was by chance that they happen to know each other.

what can i do, or what would you do if your in my situtaion.
 

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I'd find a new job.

if the manager is such a douche do you really still want to work there? Doesn't seem like that job is worth it.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Interesting to look at the last thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=145316

Everyone told you to not complain. But then some keyboard jockeying Jr. High schooler chimes in with his silly opinion, and it looks like listening cost you a job. That discussion forum is hit and miss.
It's a classic example of typical human behaviour.

He was looking for someone to tell him it was OK to go complain to the manager. It may not have felt like the right approach, which is why it was posted as a question. Then he waited until someone said Do It and he did. 5, 10, 15 no's don't matter, he was looking for the one yes.

When asking for advice, make sure you are seriously considering all the answers.
 

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Sounds stupid, but remember this Joey.

In everything in life, there is a wolf and there is a lamb!

The lamb will always be taken advantage of!

I used to be a lamb, as I was born with a gentle personality. I soon figured out it was easily spoted and taken advantge of. People listen to your tone of voice, watch your body language, and if you are weak, they will use you to build themselves up.

Make sure you show no sign of fear and if someone starts with you, tell them to get over their little man syndrome!

There is no better way to get back at someone than by simply beating them at being a success. That being said, you will not become the one bullied if you learn to be a rude bastard to people like that. Just be ice cold with them and soon they will be sucking up your azz, it is amaizing to watch the change.

Cheers

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Next time you run into they type of moron(and you will my friend, trust me, you will) just tell him to shut the fuk up! Then tell him you could care less what he thinks, or you're just a dumb sh*t so nobody cares what you think, or something like that and smile and walk away. That's what I always do when a guy bigger and stronger than me starts harassing me. If he tries to take a swing at you, just kick him in the balls and knock him the fuk out. It's not worth trying to keep a crappy job over bull**** like that.
 

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What the hell you guys talking about, yes I agree that he should stand up for himself but arguing back just makes you look more like a jackass and it looks pathetic when you see 2 guys arguing.

I would have done the same, I would have told my boss "Hey this guy is being a douche he's criticizing me and verbally assaulting me and quite frankly if you do nothing about this I'm putting in my two weeks right here right now."

Everyone that says to start something with the guy is a fvfking moron, yes stand up for yourself but dont get in a fight about it becasue all that will lead to is the cops coming and both of you guys going to jail for something stupid so ya do what maverick says fight then go to jail.

But I guess everyone here resorts to violence and to not thing about the consequences of what they do before they get physical, little kids think that fighting solves everything until they are scared and crying in jail over something as stupid as harassment.
 
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j0n024 said:
What the hell you guys talking about, yes I agree that he should stand up for himself but arguing back just makes you look more like a jackass and it looks pathetic when you see 2 guys arguing.

I would have done the same, I would have told my boss "Hey this guy is being a douche he's criticizing me and verbally assaulting me and quite frankly if you do nothing about this I'm putting in my two weeks right here right now."

Everyone that says to start something with the guy is a fvfking moron, yes stand up for yourself but dont get in a fight about it becasue all that will lead to is the cops coming and both of you guys going to jail for something stupid so ya do what maverick says fight then go to jail.

But I guess everyone here resorts to violence and to not thing about the consequences of what they do before they get physical, little kids think that fighting solves everything until they are scared and crying in jail over something as stupid as harassment.
Not every boss gives a sh*t about fighting. I've worked at a few places where fighting was the norm. Maybe because I live in the South.
 

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Well, it seems like he covered his bases by stating what could be valid reasons for dismissing you. I know little of employment law in Canada, I don't think there is a great deal that you can do. If you're considering legal action, my guess is your options are very limited.

However, I would like to make a suggestion. If you really want revenge, I would write a letter to either the CEO or SVP of Sales or Operations, and, in a very clear and methodical manner, illustrate the poor working conditions and quality of management at that particular branch. When you send the letter, send a copy to the manager that fired you, as well as the district manager.

Believe me, if the senior executive is at all competent, he'll read that letter, and take a great interest in the goings-on at the branch. And you can also bet that Jeff and the manager that fired you will regret they ever met you.
 
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