Working on HB3 to attract / mind-f*** a HB9?

[Yon4]

Hi guys,

Joined a night class for working adults as mentioned previously, and there's this HB9 who's always in a group with 2 other close friends: a HB6 and a super-obese HB3.
They are almost always together : dinner, transport whatever.

Now, I know the super-obese HB3 as we're in the same project team, but the HB9 and HB6 belongs to another group and thus, I don't have any reason to interact whatsoever with them (HB9 and HB 6 interact with guys who have dealings with them in the projects etc.)

I did talk a bit with the HB9 a couple of times before and she saw me use C+F once on the HB3.
Also, this HB9, like all HB9s, seems to be very good at mind games.

Since me and this HB3 are now gradually talking to each other more and more, I was thinking of putting more "effort" and some C+F on this HB3 (wanna puke inside, to be honest), and when the HB9 sees that I'm just talking to her close friend HB3 and ignoring her, I wonder if this will intrigue and probably even mind-**** her?

The class sitting arrangement is such that while HB9 is far from me and HB3, whenever I get near to HB3, she can see me easily.

Also, since girls have a tendency to talk about guys to their female friends, maybe she will bring me up in their convo with HB9 and HB6? There's this time when HB9 told me that HB3 told her something about me. LOL

And in turn, it will get to a point where the HB9 just comes up and talk to me instead?

I remember reading something like this before. Any insight?
If someone has tried this method before, pls share here.

I just hope it doesn't backfire and I get owned by HB3 instead.

Tks!
Yon

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Hi guys,

Joined a night class for working adults as mentioned previously, and there's this HB9 who's always in a group with 2 other close friends: a HB6 and a super-obese HB3.
They are almost always together : dinner, transport whatever.

Now, I know the super-obese HB3 as we're in the same project team, but the HB9 and HB6 belongs to another group and thus, I don't have any reason to interact whatsoever with them (HB9 and HB 6 interact with guys who have dealings with them in the projects etc.)

I did talk a bit with the HB9 before and she saw me use C+F once on the HB3.

Since me and this HB3 are now gradually talking to each other more and more, I was thinking of putting more "effort" and some C+F on this HB3 (wanna puke inside, to be honest), and when the HB9 sees that I'm just talking to her close friend HB3 and ignoring her, I wonder if this will intrigue and probably even mind-**** her?

Is there any reason for the HB9 to give a sh!t about who you talk to? Has she shown any interest in you that she hasn't shown to other men? Is there any reason why any other male in class cant befriend the HB3 to get the HB9 "jealous"?

I understand that women are jealous creatures. But it's usually when there's some type of connection to you. Like if a HB8 "platonic friend" sees you flirting with another girl, she might become jealous.

In your situation, you're just some guy. She has no connection to you. So why would she be jealous?

You say that the HB3 is her friend, right? Why not just become buddies with the HB3, and use that as social proof to get closer to the HB9? Or you could just stop playing strategy games and just talk to the HB9 directly.

 

[Zerro]

Worst case: this backfires and the 9 grows to think that you're only into fat chicks.

 

[coochieman]

I understand that women are jealous creatures. But it's usually when there's some type of connection to you. Like if a HB8 "platonic friend" sees you flirting with another girl, she might become jealous.

In your situation, you're just some guy. She has no connection to you. So why would she be jealous?

Wise words, Mantis.

Now,

HB3?!!!!! Hehehe..... Aint that too low?

The opposite of LOVE is not HATE, it is INDIFFERENCE. While a hb3 might be good for infiltrating the group, it might be too low to spark a "difference".

Not ruling out the possibility of your plan yielding results, I'd feel a more reasonable option would be to go for hb6 instead since she's tending towards somewhat attractive and can easily trigger the attention of the hb9.

Only if this hb9 already values you worthy enough to get any other hb9, then you're good to go for anybody amongst the group, even the hb9........ Forgetting scheming and game and sh!t.

Look, I'm just making sure you're not perceived as a male with low standards. But only you can decipher the situation best, so follow your gut and proceed as planned.

Since there might be no way to know if she does value enough, here's what you do......

Go to the mirror and take a good look at yourself, answer with all honesty if you are the kind of male that can attract a hb9. Understand that I AM NOT TALKING LOOKS now (I've seen too many average looking guys get exceptionally looking females in my institution).

If you think you're not. That's where the problem lies.... Become that guy, HIT THE DRAWING BOARD, SELF IMPROVEMENT IS KEY. Obtain the mindset.

If yes, ooooolahlah.

Eitherway, proceed with running game on her. She's human with insecurities too. If you fail, you'd now know better.

The same way you C&F the hb3 is the same way the hb9 should get it.

Remember: No pedestalization. No oneitisation.

 

[konmai]

Worst case: this backfires and the 9 grows to think that you're only into fat chicks.

lmao was just thinking this.

 

[Yon4]

Thanks for the advice, guys! I think Coochieman sums it up best.

Actually, while my final goal is to get more acquainted with the HB9, I'm working on HB3 mainly to "infiltrate" the group. I wish I can work on the HB6 instead of the HB3, but HB6 is even more distant to me than HB9 (at least I had some positive interaction with HB9 before this grouping thing, while I've never even talked to the HB6 before).

It doesn't matter whether I can get HB9 or not. Just being on very good terms with HB9 = priceless social proof to land HB8s and above in future, and gives me a super-ego boost.

2 more questions to clarify:

1) There's a guy in my class who's very friendly with everyone including me, HB3, HB6 and HB9. He's a Nice guy who can make girls laugh (though he doesn't do C+F or other DJ type of thing). This guy obviously isn't an AFC, but such types of guys are mostly still gonna end up in Friendzone, despite the fact that they're funny (maybe because they're too nice to everyone)? I'm looking for examples of what not to do.

2) Above said guy can make girls laugh, but when they go dinner together or somewhere, and this guy follows along, he always ends up walking behind the group, because the girls are talking among themselves and ignoring him.
I've faced this situation years ago myself. Any ideas how to prevent this?

E.g: Some girls ask you out to join them with dinner and then, when you do, they engage in their girl-talk and you feel isolated. The best way to solve this is to avoid such situations altogether? Because the topics are stuff you can't relate to, and interrupting their convo with a random topic is downright rude and throws people off. Seeking advice from DJs here on how to handle such situations.

Tks!
Yon

 

[yuppaz]

Don't really know where to start here. My guess is that the three may get attracted, then if you don't hook up with your 3, the 9 will get mad and never talk to you. My advice is to have sex with the 3 then if the 9 happens to come and visit while your humping tubby she will join you in a threesome. When your in the threesome, make SURE you neg the 3 in front of the 9 to get the 6 jealous when they talk about it later, then pull out some push pull on the 3's @ss so the 9 can see it and get jealous of the 6 watching.

And you'll do just fine...

 

[bigneil]

HB = Hot Babe.

Therefore, there is no such thing as HB1, HB2, HB3, HB4, HB5 or HB6.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Thanks for the advice, guys! I think Coochieman sums it up best.

Actually, while my final goal is to get more acquainted with the HB9, I'm working on HB3 mainly to "infiltrate" the group.

If she's really a HB9 as you say, then I can assure you that your act is not as smooth as you think. HB & uglies do this song and dance A LOT. Every time this HB9 went out with her fat ugly friend in the past, someone had the bright idea of approaching the ugly girl first to get to her.

The HB9 knows it.
The fat ugly girl knows it (although she may like the attention at first).

My money is that she sees right through what you are doing eventually, if not already.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

(I've seen too many average looking guys get exceptionally looking females in my institution).

It is always about looks. Maybe you don't find them physically attractive, but there is something about them that really turns the girl on. Sometimes it is just height. Some girls prefer height and a less attractive face than average height and handsome.

The reality is that a HB8+ has the pick of the litter and she can discriminate the attractiveness of men based on whatever the hell moronic fetish that she has for men.

 

[Mike32ct]

I understand what the OP is trying to do, but with all due respect, I don't believe it works.

If an HB9 doesn't find you attractive, she doesn't care who you flirt with.

I think "jealousy games" are PUA fantasy.

I've flirted with the HB7 friend and ignored her HB9 gf. The HB9 wasn't phased either way. She takes it at face value. Her friend met someone, no more no less. The HB9 might eventually be slightly more friendly to met out of respect for her friend, but that's it. As far as increasing the HB9s interest in me, no way.

I've even made out with the less attractive one before. The cuter one didn't care.

I also second everything TillTheEndOfTime said.

 

[Mr.SomeoneElse]

I don't understand why going up and talking to the HB9 directly, you know, LIKE A MAN is somehow out of the question?
Not trying to insult you man, but what the ****?
Just go up and talk to her, when I hit on chicks in my class I HOPE i'm not in any of the groups with the hot girls.
I don't want to develop a relationship, sleep with them, then have to deal with any sort of out-class drama with them that could affect my school work.