Nutz
Master Don Juan
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For those new to the community I’d like you to consider this a warning, and for those who’ve been around for a while you’ll probably have experienced this or knew someone this applied to:
The seduction community can really mess you up and actually make you worse than when you began.
There’s a very simple reason for this…. A lot of the stuff you’ll read about and try is going to be weird and if misapplied will make you anti-social. The real stink of it all is that what works for someone else could completely bomb if you tried it and vice versa, so you never really know what’s going to work until you try it. When testing things it’s immensely important to remember the bigger picture, the context of how a given gambit or technique will facilitate being a normal person.
Being normal consists of having a natural normal flow of conversation. Imagine every interaction you have with people has a natural rhythm and is represented by three horizontal lines evenly spaced. Being cordial and nice could be neutral and that’s your baseline level of the interaction. When you say something funny it could go positive, and then you disagree and it goes negative for a moment. Throughout the interaction there will be this back and forth, yin-yang aspect to the conversation. Think of it like a heart-rate monitor you’d see on TV:
Positive ______________________________________________________________________________
Neutral ______________________________________________________________________________
Negative_____________________________________________________________________________
• If the conversation is spent mainly on topics that are neutral, then you’re going to be perceived as being a bland boring guy.
o BT spikes, agreeing, funny aspect of ****y funny, etc
• If you spend most of the interaction on negative topics or have a negative vibe about you, you’ll be perceived as a downer and possibly as a jerk or ahole if that’s the context your negativity provides.
o Boring “interview” questions, conversational topics that fall flat, etc
• If you spend most of the time being positive you can end up boring again, but as the nice guy or even as creepy. There’s something weird about people who are “too nice”, and staying positive is an example of this.
o Breaking rapport, ****y aspect of ****y funny, etc.
The main thing to remember out of all of this is that parts of the conversation should bounce back and forth between positive and negative, and at times be neutral. That’s the key to being perceived as normal. Spending too much time at any given vibe will sour things. The other factor you need to be aware of is how each interaction will have its own particular rhythm. What could work well with one woman could fall flat with another, so how you take things positive and negative, and to what degree, will vary from individual to individual. Overall though the key is to having a flow, and then developing the social awareness to be able to calibrate this flow on the fly based on the feedback the woman gives you.
The seduction community can really mess you up and actually make you worse than when you began.
There’s a very simple reason for this…. A lot of the stuff you’ll read about and try is going to be weird and if misapplied will make you anti-social. The real stink of it all is that what works for someone else could completely bomb if you tried it and vice versa, so you never really know what’s going to work until you try it. When testing things it’s immensely important to remember the bigger picture, the context of how a given gambit or technique will facilitate being a normal person.
Being normal consists of having a natural normal flow of conversation. Imagine every interaction you have with people has a natural rhythm and is represented by three horizontal lines evenly spaced. Being cordial and nice could be neutral and that’s your baseline level of the interaction. When you say something funny it could go positive, and then you disagree and it goes negative for a moment. Throughout the interaction there will be this back and forth, yin-yang aspect to the conversation. Think of it like a heart-rate monitor you’d see on TV:
Positive ______________________________________________________________________________
Neutral ______________________________________________________________________________
Negative_____________________________________________________________________________
• If the conversation is spent mainly on topics that are neutral, then you’re going to be perceived as being a bland boring guy.
o BT spikes, agreeing, funny aspect of ****y funny, etc
• If you spend most of the interaction on negative topics or have a negative vibe about you, you’ll be perceived as a downer and possibly as a jerk or ahole if that’s the context your negativity provides.
o Boring “interview” questions, conversational topics that fall flat, etc
• If you spend most of the time being positive you can end up boring again, but as the nice guy or even as creepy. There’s something weird about people who are “too nice”, and staying positive is an example of this.
o Breaking rapport, ****y aspect of ****y funny, etc.
The main thing to remember out of all of this is that parts of the conversation should bounce back and forth between positive and negative, and at times be neutral. That’s the key to being perceived as normal. Spending too much time at any given vibe will sour things. The other factor you need to be aware of is how each interaction will have its own particular rhythm. What could work well with one woman could fall flat with another, so how you take things positive and negative, and to what degree, will vary from individual to individual. Overall though the key is to having a flow, and then developing the social awareness to be able to calibrate this flow on the fly based on the feedback the woman gives you.