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Seriously girls are retarded. I've been dating one girl for like three months. My plate was really full this weekend and I didn't call her or text her at all. So she calls me on Sunday night but I was busy and didn't answer. Then she texted me about an hour later saying "too cool to talk to me these days?" On my way home from the girl whose apartment I was at I called her and she was whining and complaining because I hadn't called her or texted her at all. She asked why and I told her I was busy. She asked what I did and I told her I was out. She said "all weekend?" and I said yes and she said with who and I just told her it was none of her business who I spend my time with since she's not my girlfriend or anything.

Do girls not understand that the phone works both ways? She could have called me or texted me if she missed me so much...obviously she did since she knew what the status on my My Space page said and remarked about some of the comments on there from that day. Sheesh. There's no question here or anything guess I'm just venting some frustrations with the opposite sex. Maybe she'd like me more if I was a needy ***** calling her all the time.
 

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Gotta learn how to handle and deal with your ladies my friend.
 

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Yeah I can see how you'd reach that conclusion from reading this but I think I'm just a tad edgy from being up for 40 hours straight. I don't think I conveyed exactly what I was trying to say here. I honestly don't care that she was upset and actually am glad to have some conflict with her at this point. Vanilla isn't really my flavor. Too bland for my liking. I like to spice things up a bit here and there. I just don't see where girls are coming from on this topic. I should just tell her I'm dating 4 girls and spinning 3 plates at the moment and I'll call her when I get around to her.
 

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It just comes down to if you want her around anymore or not.

If you like her and want to keep her then show her you care about her. She is feeling insecure about you right now; you are coming off as too independent and cool for her and she is unsure if you really do like her.

This site pounds into our heads that we are to act as indifferent and alpha male as we can to display to girls that we dont care if they dont like us. But this isnt the best thing to do if you have high interest level. I had the love of my life leave me because I had been brainwashed that if i told her i loved her and showed her I cared that she would stop liking me.

This girl obviously likes you so show her some love. Just try to explain that you live a busy life but you like her in it.

If you dont feel like keeping her around then keep doing what your doing or just tell her whatever the two of you had is over.
 

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Ollie said:
Seriously girls are retarded. I've been dating one girl for like three months. My plate was really full this weekend and I didn't call her or text her at all. So she calls me on Sunday night but I was busy and didn't answer. Then she texted me about an hour later saying "too cool to talk to me these days?" On my way home from the girl whose apartment I was at I called her and she was whining and complaining because I hadn't called her or texted her at all. She asked why and I told her I was busy. She asked what I did and I told her I was out. She said "all weekend?" and I said yes and she said with who and I just told her it was none of her business who I spend my time with since she's not my girlfriend or anything.

Do girls not understand that the phone works both ways? She could have called me or texted me if she missed me so much...obviously she did since she knew what the status on my My Space page said and remarked about some of the comments on there from that day. Sheesh. There's no question here or anything guess I'm just venting some frustrations with the opposite sex. Maybe she'd like me more if I was a needy ***** calling her all the time.
The fact that she's calling and complaining is just proof that she does have interest in you. If she didn't have interest, she wouldn't care. You did the right thing by telling her it's none of her business; it really isn't unless she's serious with you.

No, calling her and being needy would not make her like you more. You're in a good spot right now. Multiple women want you. Why not just keep it that way?
 

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Ollie said:
Seriously girls are retarded. I've been dating one girl for like three months. My plate was really full this weekend and I didn't call her or text her at all. So she calls me on Sunday night but I was busy and didn't answer. Then she texted me about an hour later saying "too cool to talk to me these days?" On my way home from the girl whose apartment I was at I called her and she was whining and complaining because I hadn't called her or texted her at all. She asked why and I told her I was busy. She asked what I did and I told her I was out. She said "all weekend?" and I said yes and she said with who and I just told her it was none of her business who I spend my time with since she's not my girlfriend or anything. Do girls not understand that the phone works both ways? She could have called me or texted me if she missed me so much...obviously she did since she knew what the status on my My Space page said and remarked about some of the comments on there from that day. Sheesh. There's no question here or anything guess I'm just venting some frustrations with the opposite sex. Maybe she'd like me more if I was a needy ***** calling her all the time.
Okay so let me get this straight. You used the term 'dating' concerning her but she isn't your girlfriend. She should have called you if she missed you but when she did call, you screened her call coz you were busy. Girls don't understand that the phone works both ways yet you don't know how the phone works at all because you don't answer when people call. You didn't have time for her but you had time for the girl who's apartment you were at (who, my educated guess says platonic) The girl acts concerned on why you haven't been in contact you tell her it is none of her business and your conclusion is that she would like you more if you were needy? Methinks she would like you more if you were more congruent and less of a (pardon my french) douchebag.

From this post I'm guessing that you are
a) you are insecure/concerned she doesn't like you enough
b) You are upset she didn't call all weekend and screened her calls to get back at her

If I was spinning a girl-plate who did what you just did and said what you said (because let's be honest with ourselves, this is a very feminine response to the sitaution) you would be dropped to 3rd tier and become a back-up's back-up. You really seemed on the money with the other post today about evoking feelings and a connection but this post just seems off in many ways.

You are incongruent in what you want and what you do. If you have a puppy who pees on the floor every day and then one day you decide enough is enough and beat the puppy, you cannot logically blame the puppy. You have to practice what you preach from day one, not just decide to go AWOL one weekend and tell her to fall back. You are 3 months into the relationship. Have you previously been hanging/chatting with her consecutive weekends to the point that she expects a call from you and now that you drop a bomb and tell her you are busy doing things that do not concern her and she is sitting their confused and it is her fault?

Also, while I'm not advocating becoming AFC or acting like a pvssy, thats a little deep to be playing phone tag and "who calls who first" games in a relationship with any girl of any real caliber. Sort that sh!t out man
 

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I think you're doing the right thing with the push/pull, but you're not doing enough 'pull.' Ignore her, and do your thing, cuz it's your life, but sometimes, you need to make up for it. Girls LOVE the ups and down rollercoaster ride, but dont forget to bring her back up sometimes too. I think you should take ONE night, and make it up to her for the last weekend, then do it all over again.

Over all, you're doing it right, just show a LITTLE bit of love here and there.

Also, three months is about the point where the plates will usually either want a commitment, or move on, so you might just need to let her go.
 

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Ollie said:
Seriously girls are retarded. I've been dating one girl for like three months. My plate was really full this weekend and I didn't call her or text her at all. So she calls me on Sunday night but I was busy and didn't answer. Then she texted me about an hour later saying "too cool to talk to me these days?" On my way home from the girl whose apartment I was at I called her and she was whining and complaining because I hadn't called her or texted her at all. She asked why and I told her I was busy. She asked what I did and I told her I was out. She said "all weekend?" and I said yes and she said with who and I just told her it was none of her business who I spend my time with since she's not my girlfriend or anything.

Do girls not understand that the phone works both ways? She could have called me or texted me if she missed me so much...obviously she did since she knew what the status on my My Space page said and remarked about some of the comments on there from that day. Sheesh. There's no question here or anything guess I'm just venting some frustrations with the opposite sex. Maybe she'd like me more if I was a needy ***** calling her all the time.
LOL, they do this thing called War of the Roses on the radio station here in DC/Metro. Girl calls up, says her BF of 3 months has been busy the last 2 weeks and they haven't been doing anything lately. Turns out she started driving by his house at night, essentially stalking him. On the show the DJ is like, "I bet she's not actually dating him". Instead of doing the fake call he just straight up called the dude and was totally honest with him. "Hi this is xyz from the radio show, and abc says she's your girlfriend and wants to know if you're seeing someone else." The guy is like, yeah, but abc is just a friend." Then the girl gets on and goes nuts on him, but it was funny because the guy was all cool and stuff. "Where are you getting this 'relationship' from? When did we ever talk about anything of the sort?"

Basically the girl imagined it all, thought just because they were FBs or FWB that he and she were an item. Reality is that she's nuts. The best part was how the DJ ended the call....

DJ: "If I saw you naked on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, does that mean you and I are in a relationship on Thursday?"
abc chick: "well, yeah"
DJ: "Great, I'd have a restraining order by Friday." *click*

Laughed so hard I was crying and almost had to stop the car.
 

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Okay so let me get this straight. You used the term 'dating' concerning her but she isn't your girlfriend. She should have called you if she missed you but when she did call, you screened her call coz you were busy. Girls don't understand that the phone works both ways yet you don't know how the phone works at all because you don't answer when people call. You didn't have time for her but you had time for the girl who's apartment you were at (who, my educated guess says platonic) The girl acts concerned on why you haven't been in contact you tell her it is none of her business and your conclusion is that she would like you more if you were needy? Methinks she would like you more if you were more congruent and less of a (pardon my french) douchebag.

Haha dating a girl doesn't make her your girlfriend in my mind. There's a difference. She feels the same way as well. And no the second girl wasn't platonic. I know how a phone works, but usually when I'm having sex with a girl I don't answer a phone call from another girl. And it wasn't any of her business what I was doing (I didn't say it flat out like that but I never actually told her...just kept saying I was busy). As far as my conclusion goes, you can look here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm

From this post I'm guessing that you are
a) you are insecure/concerned she doesn't like you enough
b) You are upset she didn't call all weekend and screened her calls to get back at her

a)I know she likes me. I've had sex with her everytime we've gone out aside from the first date when we were stopped by the police in the parking lot of the bar I met her at. I'm probably the most confident person you've never met. I was just up for 40 hours straight working and it pissed me off when she called whining that I hadn't called her since she hadn't called me or made any attempt to contact me, not in a needy way just in a logical way. She pretty much had the changes to my My Space page memorized from the weekend. I know she likes me.
b) This has already been covered.


If I was spinning a girl-plate who did what you just did and said what you said (because let's be honest with ourselves, this is a very feminine response to the sitaution) you would be dropped to 3rd tier and become a back-up's back-up. You really seemed on the money with the other post today about evoking feelings and a connection but this post just seems off in many ways.

Hmmm well I think you misinterpreted what happened because I didn't include all the details. I posted a second response trying to explain that I hadn't explained it right. It probably seemed feminine in the context that you were reading it but I was just annoyed with the situation. I wasn't screening her calls or worrying if she liked me at all.

You are incongruent in what you want and what you do. If you have a puppy who pees on the floor every day and then one day you decide enough is enough and beat the puppy, you cannot logically blame the puppy. You have to practice what you preach from day one, not just decide to go AWOL one weekend and tell her to fall back. You are 3 months into the relationship. Have you previously been hanging/chatting with her consecutive weekends to the point that she expects a call from you and now that you drop a bomb and tell her you are busy doing things that do not concern her and she is sitting their confused and it is her fault?

We're not in an exclusive "relationship." I date other girls and she dates other guys. We're not FB's, we're dating, but still looking I guess. She's young and doesn't want to be too tied down I don't think but recently I think she's starting to change her mind. Maybe it's not the situation for everyone, since most guys would be too jealous to know a girl they like is out doing God knows what with another guy, but it works for us for some reason. I don't have a jealous bone in my body

Also, while I'm not advocating becoming AFC or acting like a pvssy, thats a little deep to be playing phone tag and "who calls who first" games in a relationship with any girl of any real caliber. Sort that sh!t out man
Haha well it looks like a few of you took this the wrong way. I apologize for not being specific enough with the details and painting a foggy picture. I disagree with your theory of congruence though. I find it much more effective to come off as incongruent to keep high interest levels. Sort of a controlled chaos I guess. Another girl texted me the other day asking how it's possible for me to be a complete assho!e and really sweet all in one sentence. To me that's a good thing. I don't do C&f or any crap like that, just push/pull a lot with a focus on the pushing as Horaholic pointed out.
 

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Nutz said:
LOL, they do this thing called War of the Roses on the radio station here in DC/Metro. Girl calls up, says her BF of 3 months has been busy the last 2 weeks and they haven't been doing anything lately. Turns out she started driving by his house at night, essentially stalking him. On the show the DJ is like, "I bet she's not actually dating him". Instead of doing the fake call he just straight up called the dude and was totally honest with him. "Hi this is xyz from the radio show, and abc says she's your girlfriend and wants to know if you're seeing someone else." The guy is like, yeah, but abc is just a friend." Then the girl gets on and goes nuts on him, but it was funny because the guy was all cool and stuff. "Where are you getting this 'relationship' from? When did we ever talk about anything of the sort?"

Basically the girl imagined it all, thought just because they were FBs or FWB that he and she were an item. Reality is that she's nuts. The best part was how the DJ ended the call....

DJ: "If I saw you naked on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, does that mean you and I are in a relationship on Thursday?"
abc chick: "well, yeah"
DJ: "Great, I'd have a restraining order by Friday." *click*

Laughed so hard I was crying and almost had to stop the car.
Haha that's awesome and so true. This girl knows we're not in a relationship and she's fine where we're at (although I think she's starting to want to take things further) but I come across (no pun intended) a lot of girls that think after a couple of dates we're engaged or something
 

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Haha dating a girl doesn't make her your girlfriend in my mind. There's a difference. She feels the same way as well. And no the second girl wasn't platonic. I know how a phone works, but usually when I'm having sex with a girl I don't answer a phone call from another girl. And it wasn't any of her business what I was doing (I didn't say it flat out like that but I never actually told her...just kept saying I was busy). As far as my conclusion goes, you can look here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm
Okay. I usually use terms like hanging out or just kicking to describe the relationship with my plates avoid any conclusion. That's why I assumed that there was miscommunication because the term 'dating' has loaded connotations. As for the final line, sarcasm doesn't translate well via text



I know she likes me. I've had sex with her everytime we've gone out aside from the first date when we were stopped by the police in the parking lot of the bar I met her at. I'm probably the most confident person you've never met. I was just up for 40 hours straight working and it pissed me off when she called whining that I hadn't called her since she hadn't called me or made any attempt to contact me, not in a needy way just in a logical way. She pretty much had the changes to my My Space page memorized from the weekend. I know she likes me.
So you correlate sex with how much she likes you, huh. Interesting... Well Freud would say that... LMAO, i'm messing with ya man, I believe she likes you. Jumped to the wrong conclusion because of the post. GIGO at it's finest

Hmmm well I think you misinterpreted what happened because I didn't include all the details. I posted a second response trying to explain that I hadn't explained it right. It probably seemed feminine in the context that you were reading it but I was just annoyed with the situation. I wasn't screening her calls or worrying if she liked me at all.

We're not in an exclusive "relationship." I date other girls and she dates other guys. We're not FB's, we're dating, but still looking I guess. She's young and doesn't want to be too tied down I don't think but recently I think she's starting to change her mind. Maybe it's not the situation for everyone, since most guys would be too jealous to know a girl they like is out doing God knows what with another guy, but it works for us for some reason. I don't have a jealous bone in my body
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Haha well it looks like a few of you took this the wrong way. I apologize for not being specific enough with the details and painting a foggy picture. I disagree with your theory of congruence though. I find it much more effective to come off as incongruent to keep high interest levels. Sort of a controlled chaos I guess. Another girl texted me the other day asking how it's possible for me to be a complete assho!e and really sweet all in one sentence. To me that's a good thing. I don't do C&f or any crap like that, just push/pull a lot with a focus on the pushing as Horaholic pointed out.
Cool. Glad we got that all cleared up. I can see how the Carrie and Mr Big push/pull can work to an extent but once the relationship has past its initial months, I still think that things need to become more stable as the relationship progresses if you want to keep a quality girl longterm.
 

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Haha ok I know she likes me cause she calls me a lot to hang out and just to say hello and because she told me she does. And I totally agree with you that there needs to be more quality stuff to keep a cool girl long term. It's not something I even think about really...it just comes naturally to me when I feel I'm getting too close for her or she's getting too close for me. I'm really good at reading people and somehow just know when to do it. This particular girl is really a challenge, hence dating her for quite some time and still pushing her away, sometimes a little too much as Horaholic said. If I'm going to keep her around for a while I know things will need to change, but I'm in no hurry and she's young and a popular college girl who see's relationships as having a guy around who will tell her she's not allowed to do certain things, but I think lately she's starting to see it doesn't have to be that way.
 

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Ollie said:
Seriously girls are retarded. I've been dating one girl for like three months. My plate was really full this weekend and I didn't call her or text her at all. So she calls me on Sunday night but I was busy and didn't answer. Then she texted me about an hour later saying "too cool to talk to me these days?" On my way home from the girl whose apartment I was at I called her and she was whining and complaining because I hadn't called her or texted her at all. She asked why and I told her I was busy. She asked what I did and I told her I was out. She said "all weekend?" and I said yes and she said with who and I just told her it was none of her business who I spend my time with since she's not my girlfriend or anything.

Do girls not understand that the phone works both ways? She could have called me or texted me if she missed me so much...obviously she did since she knew what the status on my My Space page said and remarked about some of the comments on there from that day. Sheesh. There's no question here or anything guess I'm just venting some frustrations with the opposite sex. Maybe she'd like me more if I was a needy ***** calling her all the time.
Now that's how you start a thread.

Taste the sexism
 

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Rex Man said:
Now that's how you start a thread.

Taste the sexism
Yeah clearly. This guy's obviously an obnoxious prick. I mean if you actually read down a little more, he says he was having a bad day and was frustrated after being up for over 40 hours straight and then having to deal with this petty bulsh!t, but it's obvious from the one sentence that he's misogynistic jerk.
 
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