Women WANT the Fantasy

STR8UP

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After reading Roissy's most recent blog entry about "selling yourself to girls" , I realized that I TOTALLY have this chick believing that I am a gangsta. Here is my response in his blog.

Spot on about how women WANT you to build the fantasy.

I recently contacted an old fling who moved out of town a couple of years ago to let her know I would be in her neck of the woods on business in a couple of months.

She was enthusiastic and offered to take a couple of days and show me around.

I told her that I was headed overseas for a week and then I would be in NYC for a couple of days.

She started asking what kind of business venture it is that I am starting, and since it is rather complicated, I told her that I would have to explain it to her when I am in town.

A couple of weeks later we start emailing back and forth about the logistics of the trip, and I ask her if it would be ok if I sent a package to her apartment so I wouldn’t have to carry my product samples on the plane.

This ignited her curiosity, and again she began grilling me about this new business, so I told her exactly what it is that I would be sending (I realized by then that it sounded a bit sketchy). She agreed to allow me to send the package, as long as it was ok if she opened it, because she’s “nosy like that”.

I agreed since there would be nothing in the box that I would have to worry about, and she seemed to be cool with that, UNTIL I said something about sending the package to the hotel instead so I could “make a few stops” between the time I got off the plane and when she got off work.

Curiosity killed the cat! Now she was SURE I was up to something shady, and she kept protesting that I send the box to HER.

It just so happens that her last email was sent on May 30th. Hehehe….April fools time baby!

On April 1st I sent her an email explaining that I might as well come clean “since you would have found out anyway”. I told her that although I’m not doing anything illegal, I was paid in an “unconventional way” on a recent business deal and I am bringing in some precious and semi-precious gems to sell while I am in town and I heard that “there are a couple of places in town that don’t ask any questions”.

At first she busted me on the April fools thing but I kept up the ruse and eventually had her believing it. I finally told her it was a joke, but she STILL thinks I’m yanking her chain and I’m up to some crazy illegal ****, jetting across the world and back, haha.

Although I didn’t go into details, I did tell her exactly what was going to be in the box (totally harmless product samples) and who I was REALLY going to be dropping them off to when I am in town, but she is having NONE of it. She WANTS to believe that I’m on some sort of secret international crime spree.

Now I just have to figure out a way to play it up. Maybe send her the box after all and sprinkle some fake jewels inside the product samples? Disappear without explanation for 20 minutes after a flurry of text messages one night when we are out? Act a little paranoid and tell her that we need to get to my hotel room ASAP?

I haven’t had this much fun since I was 8 years old. Ideas?
I totally want to have some fun with this. I don't expect to get many ideas over there, so fire away.....
 

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I'd say "bring a gun and let her accidentally find it in your suitcase" but I don't think you'll get that past airport security.

Actually, I think you could legally mail her a gun.

Then she would know FOR SURE you're up to something.

Or

You could bring along files that include satellite photos of the country you are going to along with a printout of the CIA world fact book entry on the same. Maybe have some CIA letterhead with a list of "contact" or "objectives".

God women are stupid. But then, if women weren't stupid Twilight would have never been a best seller.
 

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When I was 26 I had a workout partner named Dean. Dean was drop dead gorgeous, unbelievably cut and women would flock to the guy regularly. Dean was also a male stripper at one of the strip clubs that had a male revue night once a month. The guy made money hand over fist and was always a crowd favorite. I was dating a stripper named Angie at the time so I was pretty familiar with the club owners. One thing I noticed about the most successful male strippers was that they were almost universally the ones who sold a story to the women in the audience as part of their act. Dean used to do a Fireman skit that would drive these women (young and old) into a frenzy. Another guy would do the hot executive fantasy in an Armani suit and give away flowers to the ladies, classy, but building up to him stripping down to a thong. The guys without an act never made as much in tips. It wasn't as satisfying for the women as the fantasy aspect that Dean and a few others would sell. Women get off differently than men. For a guy, a hot stripper in nothing but a g-string grinding out a lap dance is enough to get him aroused. Women need that ungratified fantasy to get them aroused.


Law 32: Play to People's Fantasies
The truth is often avoided because it is ugly and unpleasant. Never appeal to truth and reality unless you are prepared for the anger that comes from disenchantment. Life is so harsh and distressing that people who can manufacture romance or conjure up fantasy are like oases in the desert: Everyone flocks to them. There is great power in tapping into the fantasies of the masses.
 

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Many of the tenets of the PUA community revolve around increasing value and selling women a fantasy. Some of this stuff really does work.

In this situation the chick was/is attracted to me, but if I played the retail store owner card I would get a blank stare. Now that I am "starting a new business venture", traveling overseas, then back to two major US cities, sending "packages" and "making stops", the chick has something to latch onto to make her imagination go wild.

This is indeed CHICK CRACK. They can't get enough of letting their inaginations run wild, exploring every possible angle, adding interesting twists to the otherwise mundane.

I did this several times with the 22yo I was messing with awhile back. I quickly learned that all I had to do was throw out a comment then do a takeaway to start her curiosity running wild.

Really, all you have to do is throw out a few vague details that set up the story and women will fill in the blanks. The less forthcoming you are the better, as it serves to build the mystique.

Women truly are like children in many ways.
 

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Luthor Rex said:
I'd say "bring a gun and let her accidentally find it in your suitcase" but I don't think you'll get that past airport security.

Actually, I think you could legally mail her a gun.

Then she would know FOR SURE you're up to something.

Or

You could bring along files that include satellite photos of the country you are going to along with a printout of the CIA world fact book entry on the same. Maybe have some CIA letterhead with a list of "contact" or "objectives".

God women are stupid. But then, if women weren't stupid Twilight would have never been a best seller.

Oh man you cracked me up good with that post. :crackup:
 

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This is one I would love to pull off but it would either require some crazy contacts or $$$$$$.

Let's say you are in college again. One day, when you know there will be a lot of students out on campus, have a helicopter land and pick you up.

Then, when you come back and people ask you about it, just deny everything. "I wasn't picked up by a helicopter, are you crazy?" If they have pictures of this happen to you, tell them "oh that's not me" or "I don't really remember anything."

There are less dramatic things you can do as well. Like a smudge of lipstick on your collar.
 

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Women want the fantasy, so do men. Every guy wants his girl to tell him that she just washed her hair because she wants to smell great for him, not that she wants to get that drug dealer's *** off it. :crackup:

I always beat around the bush and jazz the story up when women ask me about my job or hobbies. They just can't get enough of it.
 

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In the past I have made the mistake of not using the opportunity to sell myself.

It's funny cause I have the perfect opportunity to do so. My job IS hard to desribe, because I am involved in numerous business projects. I don't really have a "label".

But that's the perfect opportunity to CREATE a label for myself. It's great to surround yourself with an air of mystery and intrigue, but you have to build a base. I always made the mistake of hemming and hawing just because i didn't really have a good answer. Now I realize that I am whoever I want to be.

So any more ideas on how to play it up with this chick, quick/easy/cheap? I would be doing her a disservice if I don't give her a fantasy.....
 

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Fantasy said:
You damn right they want the Fantasy!
Haha.

But yeah, looks like for the same reasons that telling stories works with chicks - it intrigues and captivates them I guess.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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