Women & their weight issues

[DJDamage]

Take a look at some of these pictures:

http://izismile.com/2011/02/28/what_junk_food_does_to_girls_part_2_18_pics.html

How on earth can you let yourself go like this after being skinny/normal size in your late teens, early 20's?! For women it's their look’s that is their biggest asset, you think if you started out good in the gene department that you won't throw it all way like this and decrease your chances of finding a good catch.

That is also the scary thing about getting married and having kids. I have witnessed far too many married women just simply let themselves go a few years into the marriage or right after popping the first kid because they simply just don't give a damn anymore. Fat women know their husband's are either too wimpy to go after other women or won't divorce them because the cost will be too high to bear.

 

[old married dude]

Yeah, it's somewhat shocking, every now and then I see a few girls from HS who were pretty hot & athletic but now have blown up like blimps. One or two of those girls in the pics didn't look too bad, just filled out & got some nice womanly curves.

I think this happens for a few reasons...

- People just get lazy & don't stay active or workout into their 20's and 30's.
- Even fatties know they can land a desperate AFC type of guy with little effort.
- American diet...most people eat horrible **** too much like fast food, doritos, soda, etc.

 

[zekko]

I think it's mostly the American diet. I doubt that those Eastern European women are all going to the gym every day.

It is a shame when you see how attractive some of these girls are and then what they become. A lot of times I will see an overweight girl when I am out, and you could see that she would be absolutely gorgeous if she didn't have all that fat on her.

I'm sure it is difficult for a lot of these girls to stay slim. Women don't carry the muscle that guys do, so they don't burn calories as quickly. Plus they're shorter, and smaller to begin with. And yet serving sizes for men and women are the same - that doesn't really make sense when you think about it.

 

[grayclif]

I think it's mostly the American diet. I doubt that all those Eastern European women are all going to the gym every day.

I see it often with Cuban migrants. When they first come over they have the most incredible figures. After a few years on a western diet they blow up like their hooked to an air compressor.

 

[5string]

One thing I have noticed, is that when I see a really attractive woman and want to scope her out a bit more, there always seems to be some fat snaggletooth in stretch pants who get's in the way and blocks my view!

 

[old married dude]

It is a shame when you see how attractive some of these girls are and then what they become. A lot of times I will see an overweight girl when I am out, and you could see that she would be absolutely gorgeous if she didn't have all that fat on her.

Exactly, I'll be out and about and see a few fatties with very pretty faces, enough so that they could be a HB8 or HB9-9.5 if they lost 50 or even more pounds. Big girls that have nice eyes, a perfect complexion, nice facial symmetry, nice teeth and a great smile, perfect nose, and gorgeous silky hair. When I see them I think to myself "Damn, what a shame."

 

[vatoloco]

Look at their moms!

If the mothers are cows themselves, guess where the daughter might be heading to...

 

[5string]

If the mothers are cows themselves, guess where the daughter might be heading to...

To the feedlot maybe?

 

[The_411]

I'm sure it is difficult for a lot of these girls to stay slim. Women don't carry the muscle that guys do, so they don't burn calories as quickly. Plus they're shorter, and smaller to begin with. And yet serving sizes for men and women are the same - that doesn't really make sense when you think about it.

Zekko,

I'm not calling you out per se, but look at what you wrote. You make some observations but then you amke some rationalizations (i.e excuses) why those observations happen.

Yes, women are not the same anatomically as men but the whole issue comes down to one of tolerance and discipline. There's way too much tolerance for obesity in the U.S. I get that there are certain medical conditions that cuase signifcant weight issues. However that being said we're probably talking about what 3-5% of the overweight popuation that had those issues and didn't develop them from letting themselves go in the beginning.

Men need to hold women to a higher standard and stop pedestaling BBW pvssy like it's some sort of prize.

Women are that way because men have become to pvssified (read AFC) and tolerating it. Now don't get me wrong, I like my women to have some meat on em but I think we know who we're talking about here. We're not talking about the girl who if she lost 10/15 lbs she'd have a banging body but the girls who need to lose 40+ lbs to look like a woman and not an amorphus sacks of flesh.

 

[Rogue]

Holy knockers WTF happened.

This reminds me of the time I was standing in line at a Panera Bread. There were two grotesquely fat girls in front of me and they were praising each other... how good they looked.

 

[zekko]

Zekko,

I'm not calling you out per se, but look at what you wrote. You make some observations but then you amke some rationalizations (i.e excuses) why those observations happen.

I don't see anything between what you wrote and I wrote that's incompatible.

I am not making excuses for these girls, but I do empathize with the difficulty a lot of them have in keeping off weight since I am sure it is a lot harder for them than it is for us men. As an older male, I exercise regularly, but I still have to watch what I eat to an almost painful extent to keep extra weight off. It has to be a lot more difficult for the girls, without the extra muscle mass to help burn the calories.

I am not going to put any woman on a pedestal, let alone a "BBW". But as far as men tolerating fat women, what can we do other than not date them? The fattest/ugliest girls I know cannot get any men whatsoever, except for the occasional guy who will use them for sex (pump and dump). But they still are not motivated to take off any weight. If anything, they're getting bigger. I'm not putting a gun to their head and telling them to lose weight, that's up to them.

 

[mrRuckus]

It's no surprise. People are fvcking stupid. I am very good with what I eat and how I exercise. I've had people start to tag along with me and I teach them to lift properly and within a few weeks they drop out. These guys don't know what they're missing out on when they have someone like me to take them under his wings and teach them things properly to 'get results fast' instead floundering about learning everything on my own like i did.

People simply don't care, don't have willpower, don't enjoy activity, don't have self control, and don't have discipline. They have every excuse imaginable to skip workouts or cheat on meals. They have no desire to learn anything about diet and have it stuck in their heads that you can't eat tasty food and be in shape or skinny at the same time. I east fast food and get wasted at the bar like everyone else but somehow I 'magically' stay in shape with abs mostly showing and i'm not naturally skinny at all. My brothers have beer guts.

The vast majority of humans are rather pathetic and leech off of the few productive people. I don't really want to sound like a d1ck, but I see little evidence to the contrary. People are apathetic as all hell and unless there's severe punishment or a huge reward (in the SHORT TERM because people mostly ignore anything beyond a couple of days) they want no part of it.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Gawd! It's taking every ounce of self-control I have right now not to post pics of Mrs. Tomassi to illustrate how a woman should look at 26, not to mention 46.

Imagine you're the guy in picture series #17. Imagine watching your hot PoA GF in 2003 bloat out to what she looks like in 2009. That's just 6 years. 2003-2005 that's about 15lbs. 2006-2008, easily another 40lbs. By 2009 she is morbidly obese. Notice one constant over 6+ years? The guy isn't a fat piece of sh!t.

 

[The_411]

I don't see anything between what you wrote and I wrote that's incompatible.

I am not making excuses for these girls, but I do empathize with the difficulty a lot of them have in keeping off weight since I am sure it is a lot harder for them than it is for us men. As an older male, I exercise regularly, but I still have to watch what I eat to an almost painful extent to keep extra weight off. It has to be a lot more difficult for the girls, without the extra muscle mass to help burn the calories.

I am not going to put any woman on a pedestal, let alone a "BBW". But as far as men tolerating fat women, what can we do other than not date them? The fattest/ugliest girls I know cannot get any men whatsoever, except for the occasional guy who will use them for sex (pump and dump). But they still are not motivated to take off any weight. If anything, they're getting bigger. I'm not putting a gun to their head and telling them to lose weight, that's up to them.

My only issue was you showing empathy. Empathy should be reserved for someone who has some condition like thyroid disease which prevents a woman from being in reaonable shape. They cannot reaonablly control what is taking palce because they are circumstances beyond their control. However, The problem is most of the women who are obese etc are that way due to a lack of self-discipline and lack of standards by men.

My point is that while we have laws agaisnt discrimination I don't feel that obesity should fall in that same category because while you have no control over the color of your skin or your sexual orientation you do in the majority of cases have control over your weight.

It is no doubt more psyiologically challenging for women but that's offset by the fact that men are expected to be providers and women tend to have much less expected of them.

As men we need to stay in shape, boost our careers, and have to be the agressors when looking for women.

All I'm suggesting is that if men take a hard line on obesity women will be forced to get in shape. After it's not jsut a male/female issue but a massive taxpayer issue as well.

 

[old married dude]

Yeah, there isn't much a person can do if they have serious issues like a thyroid problem, but anyone else CAN lose weight.

Just watch Biggest Loser, the finalists on that show start out as massive tubs of lard, but by the time the contest is over they look pretty good.

 

[zekko]

My only issue was you showing empathy.

Since when is there something wrong with empathy? Having empathy is not the same as approval or excusing. I don't smoke (anymore) but I have empathy for people trying to quit. I know how hard it can be.

I've never been addicted to coke, but I can empathize with Backbreaker's struggles to kick it.

I have to watch what I eat, so I can empathize with people who have a hard time keeping weight off. I don't see how anyone can portray there being something wrong with that.

When I was younger, I could eat whatever I wanted and it didn't matter. I burned it off. If anything, I had trouble keeping weight on. It wasn't until I was about your age that I had to watch what I was eating or I would start to put on pounds.

That's why I get kind of amused when I read about 28 year old guys bragging about their low body fat. Shoot, when I was 28 it was all I could do to put some fat on.

All I'm suggesting is that if men take a hard line on obesity women will be forced to get in shape. After it's not jsut a male/female issue but a massive taxpayer issue as well.

If you want to say guys shouldn't date fat girls I have no problem with that. But if you want to legislate how much we should all weigh, if you want to get government involved in checking our BMIs, you can count me out.

 

[The_411]

Since when is there something wrong with empathy? Having empathy is not the same as approval or excusing. I don't smoke (anymore) but I have empathy for people trying to quit. I know how hard it can be.

I've never been addicted to coke, but I can empathize with Backbreaker's struggles to kick it.

I have to watch what I eat, so I can empathize with people who have a hard time keeping weight off. I don't see how anyone can portray there being something wrong with that.

When I was younger, I could eat whatever I wanted and it didn't matter. I burned it off. If anything, I had trouble keeping weight on. It wasn't until I was about your age that I had to watch what I was eating or I would start to put on pounds.

That's why I get kind of amused when I read about 28 year old guys bragging about their low body fat. Shoot, when I was 28 it was all I could do to put some fat on.


If you want to say guys shouldn't date fat girls I have no problem with that. But if you want to legislate how much we should all weigh, if you want to get government involved in checking our BMIs, you can count me out.

Empathy isn't a bad thing. I just think it's somewhat misplaced here. While drug addicition is a *****, you have to actually starting doing the drugs in the first place to get addicted. (Yes I get that there are certain factors at play that make certain individuals more laible to do drugs and become addicted,and no I'm no some holier than thou goodie two shoes either. I'd likely fall into the above normal category when it comes to drug consumption.) It doesn't mean I don't care about someone's addiciton or recovery from that addiciton or that Iam not empathetic. Recovery at least implies you are reforming and learning.

I do think the government should give tax breaks for people who are certain BMI or lower. Why? Obesity is nearly a trillion dollar problem in the Unitied States, and the problem is bcoming a massive burden on society on the whole.

When I go to Europre I literally have search to find someone who is massively overweight. Whereas here in the US you can't go 10 feet without seeing an orca.

My gist of what I'm getting at is that a woman letting herself go (assuming no medical issues) is often due to the fact she doesn't fear any reprocussions of actually being fat especially if she's still getting play from guys. Guys need to be firmer.

Not to mention that an obese+ woman's medical coverage is the same as anyone else's medical coverage in a group plan even though her risk is probably 5x as high and yet everyone's premium goes way up because fatty two shoes can't stop eating her Mcgriddles while trying to being calorically conscious by imbibing a diet Coke in lieu of a regular Coke.



US society is way too easy on this stance and even condones it.

 

[Warrior74]

But if you want to legislate how much we should all weigh, if you want to get government involved in checking our BMIs, you can count me out.

I actually worked for a government agency once that made it mandatory to get BMI testing done. All employees had 1 year to comply with regs or else they faced and increase in insurance. They discontinued the practice after 1 year due to the sheer number of complaints and threats of lawsuits.

 

[backbreaker]

I actually worked for a government agency once that made it mandatory to get BMI testing done. All employees had 1 year to comply with regs or else they faced and increase in insurance. They discontinued the practice after 1 year due to the sheer number of complaints and threats of lawsuits.

they have a fat tax in japan.

Empathy isn't a bad thing. I just think it's somewhat misplaced here. While drug addicition is a *****, you have to actually starting doing the drugs in the first place to get addicted. (Yes I get that there are certain factors at play that make certain individuals more laible to do drugs and become addicted,and no I'm no some holier than thou goodie two shoes either. I'd likely fall into the above normal category when it comes to drug consumption.) It doesn't mean I don't care about someone's addiciton or recovery from that addiciton or that Iam not empathetic. Recovery at least implies you are reforming and learning.

I am a drug addict, and I will be the first to tell you to stop with the empathy. what most addicts need is a tough ass kick in the nutts. the earlier and harder the better.

Just because I can relate to something,l doesn't mean you should excuse the person for their problems. The habit never should have been formed in the first place. I chose to do drugs. I chose to gain weight. It's my responsibility to break those bad habits, not anyone elses

Gawd! It's taking every ounce of self-control I have right now not to post pics of Mrs. Tomassi to illustrate how a woman should look at 26, not to mention 46.

Imagine you're the guy in picture series #17. Imagine watching your hot PoA GF in 2003 bloat out to what she looks like in 2009. That's just 6 years. 2003-2005 that's about 15lbs. 2006-2008, easily another 40lbs. By 2009 she is morbidly obese. Notice one constant over 6+ years? The guy isn't a fat piece of sh!t.

.I get asked all the time even by people here from time to time how cna you date someone 5 and a half years older than you. she looks younger than most women my age, a large majority of them with a child.

we are so fat as a country people have forgotten what a 25 year old is supposed to look like. now if you aren't "18' or 19 then you look too old.

after years of eating ding dongs, drinking and smoking cigs by the time you are 25 you look 34 or 36.

 

[Warrior74]

they have a fat tax in japan.

Easier to do in a non-multicultural society such as japan. Even at the same weight and height, african americans tend to have a higher bmi due to bone density. That alone would have been enough to disqualify it as discriminatory practices. But mainly, it was the wimminz who were not happy with it.

As for getting fat. It happens to men and women. I'm sure you guys know that star athelete who's a complete lard ass now. In fact, one of my good friends is like that, he was the star of our high school, played college ball and almost went pro has a smoking hot wife and is a huge tub of lard.