Women that are single beyond 25 should wear the scarlett letter, they are not long term material

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Yes, there are exceptions which can be handled on a case to case basis, but I think if a woman is single after 25 then she is damaged mentally and emotionally in the head. Her career is no damn excuse because there's plenty of married couples in law school/medical school. I think these girls lacked a efficient parenting growing up and they have an unhealthy case of FOMO, lack accountability for their past actions, unresolved mental health issues, and lack the ability to make long term emotional long term decisions. In addition, Instagram & Tik Tok are literally cocaine to them, so watch out for these red flags.

 

[Robert28]

I’ll still give a woman a chance is she’s single before 30. 30 and above is the cutoff though. Kids or no kids, doesn’t matter. They’re too demanding and pains in the asses at that age and beyond.

 

[SW15]

What you are saying makes a lot of sense, though I would push the age number up to somewhere to 27-30. If you're a woman on your 25th birthday and you find your single, that's a sign of something. On your 25th birthday, you've been dating for roughly 8-10 years, a period overlapping with your absolute physical peak. Locking down a good situation in your physical peak is possible.

What's your definition long term? It's possible to get a 2-5 year long relationship out of a woman 25-35 but not advisable to put a ring on it or have kids with her. It's important to know the limits of what's possible.

Instagram, TikTok, OnlyFans, etc. do affect dopamine in a similar fashion to cocaine. I think a regular cocaine user is likely worse than a regular Instagram user but what would be worse is a cocaine loving woman who liked Instagram.

I’ll still give a woman a chance is she’s single before 30. 30 and above is the cutoff though. Kids or no kids, doesn’t matter.

If given the choice between dating a 32 year old woman with no kids and a 32 year old woman with a 6 and a 4 year old, I would choose the childless 32 year old.

 

[2Rocky]

JG....I don't think you can afford to be that picky...You are out of your depth...

You guys make WAAAAY to big of a deal out of age.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Any man should have it clear in his head that if he wants a strong long lasting relationship he has to settle before his 30s with a girl younger than her mid 20s.

The bonding abilities decrease with time plus women accumulate baggage (physical and mental) that makes them trouble, at the same time men get less and less willing to commit as much as women get less and less able to bond.

Relationships work when both are receptive and sane enough to bond and grow together sharing life experiences that will make the founding stone for the future.

A bored man and a troubled women that get together cause he wants sex and companionship while she needs validation through relation and economical stability are a recipe for disaster as we see everyday.

 

[Barrister]

So if they are above 25 you are worried about them as a LTR prospect? This isn’t exactly groundbreaking. The more relationships people get into (men and women) that end unsuccessfully the more these people tend to be jaded. I can attest to this on a personal level. I am far less optimistic about LTRs in general now than when I was OPs age. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t jump at the right set of circumstances - but I would go in with my guard up even if she seemed otherwise perfect.

 

[sangheilios]

From my observations, I'd probably bump this up to when a woman is starting to approach 30 and beyond. Most women that are in their early 20s are often still all about having fun, partying, etc. However, I've noticed that this seems to settle down by the time they get into their mid 20s and at this point are often starting to settle into longer term type relationships. If a woman is still single by her late 20s the energy that I've noticed is that they are starting to feel their biological clock ticking and that they are looking to get wifed up soon. For a woman to still be single by the time she hits 30 there are reasons for it and none of them are good.

One thing that I believe is a very serious and quite obvious red flag is if a woman is attractive or possibly even hot and yet is chronically single or a serial dater once she is past 25. Most men will try to lock down such a woman into a relationship fairly readily, so for one like this to be single shows that there is something going on with her that is causing these men to run to the hills.

Something else I've seen over the years is career/ambitious women are often times single, I can think of several women that I know of who remained single into their 40s. Based upon what I saw, I felt that the reason for this was simply these women were just not at all available to men, both emotionally and physically. These women are operating on a masculine wave length and many men are genuinely turned off by this and will quickly lose interest. This is fairly common sense and doesn't really need to be elaborated on.

Now for women that are neither of the two things above there still is something going on. Even very unattractive women will be able to land relationships, tons of men have virtually no standards and will go for anything available. These variables at play could range from social issues to perhaps having a super obnoxious personality or even being over picky beyond their actual league. I do feel that many women today view themselves higher than their actual league and men as lower than they truly are but even women like this can land men.

 

[Georgepithyou]

JG....I don't think you can afford to be that picky...You are out of your depth...

You guys make WAAAAY to big of a deal out of age.

Women have tons of options, if they still can't find someone to settle down with before they are 25 something is seriously wrong.

I find that these women have a ton of personality issues.

 

[MatureDJ]

I don't think that being careful about what man fertilizes her eggs makes a woman damaged. The femynist zeitgeist makes women think that they can go into mommy mode later than they should. Also, some women are late bloomers and are dedicated in their academic field (not necessarily a bad thing).

 

[MatureDJ]

I find that these women have a ton of personality issues.

I find that just about ALL women have personality issues.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I don't think that being careful about what man fertilizes her eggs makes a woman damaged. The femynist zeitgeist makes women think that they can go into mommy mode later than they should. Also, some women are late bloomers and are dedicated in their academic field (not necessarily a bad thing).

A lot of these women have unrealistic standards that no human can possibly match, it's mostly the fault of simps over inflating their ego though.

They end relationships with perfectly good men because they no longer "get the tingles" which is idiotic. There is no accountability for their actions because of the endless hordes of Simps validating them.

 

[derby1]

Women have tons of options, if they still can't find someone to settle down with before they are 25 something is seriously wrong.

I find that these women have a ton of personality issues.

the problem with women is no one enforces any boundaries on them in 2021. so they want and "deserve" a relationship, but she will still think its totally okay to upload 4 selfies a week. they think its totally okay to push another mans orgasm out there fanny, and hit the dating scene instantly with a newborn(this is getting more common, single with a newborn, its disgusting) ironically they still blame men for ghosting them

@AttackFormation worded it perfect the other day "They upheave life on a whim"

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I tried to date women in their 30's for 2 weeks in a dating app, the subsequent meet ups were the worst I've ever had, all of them went fine until something was said and you could just feel the tension in the air before she snaps or begins questioning why you said that.

Once I began saying "I need you to give me a blank slate" things were a bit better, I feel like saying that is basically saying lemme smash and I won't burn you.

I've dated women in their 40s just fine but 30s is just yuck

 

[SW15]

Any man should have it clear in his head that if he wants a strong long lasting relationship he has to settle before his 30s with a girl younger than her mid 20s.

The bonding abilities decrease with time plus women accumulate baggage (physical and mental) that makes them trouble, at the same time men get less and less willing to commit as much as women get less and less able to bond.

Relationships work when both are receptive and sane enough to bond and grow together sharing life experiences that will make the founding stone for the future.

A bored man and a troubled women that get together cause he wants sex and companionship while she needs validation through relation and economical stability are a recipe for disaster as we see everyday.

All accurate. If a man happens to find himself single after his mid to late 30s and hasn't had kids, his expectations should be short to medium term relationships with childless women. It's going to be difficult for a 33+ man to get a strong, long lasting relationship with someone under 25 at that point.

 

[AttackFormation]

@AttackFormation worded it perfect the other day "They upheave life on a whim"

After this summer i am done with putting in any effort to date. I dont believe i will ever be in a relationship i believe in, and have shifted my life outlook accordingly. Casual sex is not worth pursuing either (too much pain and demeaning and exasperating effort, may not even want to have sex with who i can get, doesnt build my life, feels like a painful waste of time to endure being with women i dont resonate with, have to choose between condoms or stds + pregnancy scares). Now that the stress is lifted, i immediately feel more tranquil and free.

So for me this is whatever, my chips are out, i dont have a stake in this game anymore and dont really care about it. But i wish you guys well in dating.

 

[derby1]

I tried to date women in their 30's for 2 weeks in a dating app, the subsequent meet ups were the worst I've ever had, all of them went fine until something was said and you could just feel the tension in the air before she snaps or begins questioning why you said that.

Once I began saying "I need you to give me a blank slate" things were a bit better, I feel like saying that is basically saying lemme smash and I won't burn you.

I've dated women in their 40s just fine but 30s is just yuck

I agree theyre jaded and in constant combat mode, I noticed this years ago when served by 20 year old women cashiers, then served by 35 year olds. totally different energy

 

[Who Dares Win]

All accurate. If a man happens to find himself single after his mid to late 30s and hasn't had kids, his expectations should be short to medium term relationships with childless women. It's going to be difficult for a 33+ man to get a strong, long lasting relationship with someone under 25 at that point.

Which is exactly how I am living now, once you accept it you will enjoy being outcome independant and free from any jealousy since you're renting but not buying.

 

[SW15]

Which is exactly how I am living now, once you accept it you will enjoy being outcome independant and free from any jealousy since you're renting but not buying.

I don't make enough money, I'm not tall enough, and I'm not in good enough shape to attract women under 25 now that I am 38. That's been true for all of my 30s. Knowing that about myself, I realized my ceiling. I've been doing short to medium term relationships with women above 25. No rings, no babies. I am aware that the relationships will be transient. I have managed to do some good things with myself.

I think it is fair to say that I am also renting and not buying.

 

[sangheilios]

All accurate. If a man happens to find himself single after his mid to late 30s and hasn't had kids, his expectations should be short to medium term relationships with childless women. It's going to be difficult for a 33+ man to get a strong, long lasting relationship with someone under 25 at that point.

There's a guy I know of at my gym, I'd guess he is around mid 30s, fairly average looking and has chicken legs. He was dating some girl who is maybe 20, got her pregnant and they recently just had a kid out of wedlock. She is such an obvious gold digger but just lol at creating a situation like that for no reason.

 

[SW15]

From my observations, I'd probably bump this up to when a woman is starting to approach 30 and beyond. Most women that are in their early 20s are often still all about having fun, partying, etc. However, I've noticed that this seems to settle down by the time they get into their mid 20s and at this point are often starting to settle into longer term type relationships. If a woman is still single by her late 20s the energy that I've noticed is that they are starting to feel their biological clock ticking and that they are looking to get wifed up soon. For a woman to still be single by the time she hits 30 there are reasons for it and none of them are good.

I've interacted with many never married, no children women who have turned 30. Many have been overly career oriented and possess advanced level degrees. Prior to the pandemic, many had high travel jobs that really messed up their personal lives.

Careerist women are difficult, even for short to medium term relationships.

Something else I've seen over the years is career/ambitious women are often times single, I can think of several women that I know of who remained single into their 40s. Based upon what I saw, I felt that the reason for this was simply these women were just not at all available to men, both emotionally and physically. These women are operating on a masculine wave length and many men are genuinely turned off by this and will quickly lose interest. This is fairly common sense and doesn't really need to be elaborated on.

All true. They are more devoted to their work than being a good girlfriend, which is why they are often single deep into their lives.

One thing that I believe is a very serious and quite obvious red flag is if a woman is attractive or possibly even hot and yet is chronically single or a serial dater once she is past 25. Most men will try to lock down such a woman into a relationship fairly readily, so for one like this to be single shows that there is something going on with her that is causing these men to run to the hills.

Choose any dating app. You could disappear and re-appear for a week a year and you could see some of the same women over and over again.

And yet on dating apps, these re-tread women have amazingly long swipe queues. It's amazing how women can't obtain a long term boyfriend from their extensive swipe queues.

Now for women that are neither of the two things above there still is something going on. Even very unattractive women will be able to land relationships, tons of men have virtually no standards and will go for anything available. These variables at play could range from social issues to perhaps having a super obnoxious personality or even being over picky beyond their actual league. I do feel that many women today view themselves higher than their actual league and men as lower than they truly are but even women like this can land men.

Overly picky beyond their actual league is quite common. Most of the women who are re-treads on swipe apps fit this. After all, their swipe queues are extensive. If they had reasonable standards, they could find a 2 year long relationship in their swipe queues.

There's a guy I know of at my gym, I'd guess he is around mid 30s, fairly average looking and has chicken legs. He was dating some girl who is maybe 20, got her pregnant and they recently just had a kid out of wedlock. She is such an obvious gold digger but just lol at creating a situation like that for no reason.

How rich is he?