Women & Money

[Bigpapa]

There are a lot of ideas here that in order to be successful with women you need to have money , otherwise you will never have too much success with women .

this is partially true , as in order to keep or increase your SMV you have to invest in yourself : haircut , clothes , eating healthy ,staying in a decent apartment , etc . Basically basic stuff

when it comes to transcending to a proper relationship , that is when the money part becomes quite important . Mainly this happens because women are quite bad when it comes to money + they Think that the real life is what they see in movies and social media and think that they are missing something if a guy is not providing this

as a summary , when it comes to hooking up the money part is more a nice to have , as other stuff are more important like : location , timing , your social intelligence , how you look , etc

when it comes to a relationship more emphasis comes on the financial side of things

And most importantly , you have to realize that the relationship is on the shoulders of the guy mainly , as more or less he has to make amends with himself that he more or less has to provide for the girl one way or the other . Women always do not take accountability for anything

 

[Dr.Suave]

Yeah. Thats why some preach to to stop chasing tail and chase paper instead.

 

[Bigpapa]

Yeah. Thats why some preach to to stop chasing tail and chase paper instead.

chasing women instead of chasing your dreams or whatever , is not worth it .

you still have to chase tail , otherwise you will not get any . But I would put this as a secondary or tertiary thing in life , not putting too much effort into it unless you are a newbie and really need to level up

 

[HaleyBaron]

I look at it as an equation.

No woman: Profits.
Woman: Another bill to take care of.

 

[Bigpapa]

I look at it as an equation.

No woman: Profits.
Woman: Another bill to take care of.

true , but the question is the profit worth it ?

 

[Snag87]

true , but the question is the profit worth it ?

If you're just looking for sex, no. If you want a stable family, obviously yes.

 

[Bigpapa]

If you're just looking for sex, no. If you want a stable family, obviously yes.

but the problem is that women have no sense of what reality actually is … like they will see an insta story that is fake and will think that you do not care enough or whatever

or when their friends project the fakinesw of their reliontionship into their women friends , knowing that it is fake what she is saying and knowing that it will end bad for whoever takes it as it is

so the question is , is it really worth all the stress and so on ?

 

[biggoal]

If you take two men who are basically the same but one makes 160k a year and the other makes 30k a year she will go for the one with the cash.

 

[Snag87]

If you take two men who are basically the same but one makes 160k a year and the other makes 30k a year she will go for the one with the cash.

Why would anyone think otherwise? The question is will she go for the one with the cash if the 30k guy is the more attractive option in other aspects.

 

[Kotaix]

Why would anyone think otherwise? The question is will she go for the one with the cash if the 30k guy is the more attractive option in other aspects.

A woman who goes for the 30k guy is much more likely to be a more worthwhile woman. A woman who chases money is less worthwhile by definition.

 

[EyeBRollin]

A woman who goes for the 30k guy is much more likely to be a more worthwhile woman. A woman who chases money is less worthwhile by definition.

In the West that just doesn’t happen. Most women look at men that earn under $100K with pure contempt.

 

[Bigpapa]

A woman who goes for the 30k guy is much more likely to be a more worthwhile woman. A woman who chases money is less worthwhile by definition.

she will choose for the short term the sexy 30k guy ( but he has to be at least good looking ) , and for long term the 100+k guy ( in the vast majority of cases )

 

[EyeBRollin]

she will choose for the short term the sexy 30k guy ( but he has to be at least good looking ) , and for long term the 100+k guy ( in the vast majority of cases )

Nah. To a woman, a “sexy 30K man” is an oxymoron.

 

[Bigpapa]

Nah. To a woman, a “sexy 30K man” is an oxymoron.

Being super frank , I have not seen a guy that is young being rejected because of his salary …

also , unless you look like a hobo , is very difficult for someone how much money you make

 

[EyeBRollin]

also , unless you look like a hobo , is very difficult for someone how much money you make

No it is not. Women size up men based off perceived socioeconomic status in all environments. That’s why they blow the starting quarterback in high school and college.

 

[Snag87]

Nah. To a woman, a “sexy 30K man” is an oxymoron.

They would have to be 18-21 range. Past that, as you say, no dice.

 

[Snag87]

No it is not. Women size up men based off perceived socioeconomic status in all environments. That’s why they blow the starting quarterback in high school and college.

The QB could be flat broke and from an impoverished family. It's possible to be near the top of the dominance hierarchy while broke at that age

 

[EyeBRollin]

The QB could be flat broke and from an impoverished family. It's possible to be near the top of the dominance hierarchy while broke at that age

Men speak in probability, not possibility. You are taking this too literally. Money is simply the dominance hierarchy for adults. Women want the top 10-20% of men in their environment. In school, that means screwing the athletes. If that don’t work, she goes to the frat house. After graduation, $30K hobo simply doesn’t cut it.

 

[Bigpapa]

No it is not. Women size up men based off perceived socioeconomic status in all environments. That’s why they blow the starting quarterback in high school and college.

those guys have a celebrity aura around them , as everyone knows that they are quarter backs

high value guys indeed have a way to show that , as they are more relaxed and good people skills .

this can easily be simulated by someone if he would pay attention to this clues .

this clues are not necessarily tied to being rich , but tied to being good with people .

it is very unlikely for a computer nerd to be a p8ssy slayer , as he has little to no social intelligence

also , if you are broke , you can still get laid if you know how to fake not looking and acting broke . Will be way more difficult to actually have a relationship , but for sure is doable only getting laid

 

[Snag87]

Men speak in probability, not possibility. You are taking this too literally. Money is simply the dominance hierarchy for adults. Women what the top 10-20% of men in their environment. In school, that means screwing the athletes. If that don’t work, she goes to the frat house. After graduation, $30K hobo simply doesn’t cut it.

Well said.