women make sucky business people

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I have gotten my head torn off more than once for saying it but time and time women go out of their way to prove me right. I will hire a woman, but i will not work with one as a busienss partner, or work for one. i dont' give a **** how much money it costs me, women (for the very very most part) are just not good business people.

I was reminded of this fact last week (while the site was down).

In my web business, I have some partner comapines I deal with. There is this one company I deal with that is larger than we are, and they throw us work from time to time when they are overbooked, and we throw them a discount. benefiting relationshipo.

Well I have become friends with the owner and he came to us last week with a job, hell we are overbooked, so I had to turn it away. I recommended someone I knew could do the job for him.

He comes back to me and he found this WONDERFUL PROFESSIONAL woman to that works in romania to do the job for him. I bit my toung at this point.. it's not my business, I can't tell him who to do business with. And hell from the sound of it she knew her ****. There are exceptions to every rule.

god this was not one of them lol. The epic failure of this woman ought to go in the hall of fame of why women should just cook. It got so bad we ended up taking the job anyway for him (actually 3 jobs) even though we are overbooked just to help him out.

So he finds her Tuesday. He sends her the three jobs he needs, descriptions of all of the jobs. He asks her to confirm she has all the files to start and that he would need some type of progress report to give to the client the next day. This is Standard operating procedure.

Okay, Wednesday shows up. She says she "found a virus" in his site and had to remove it (the guy has a staff of like 20 people in his office, the guy is a tech himself, first of all if there was a virus in the site he damn well could get it out himself, but there was no virus). AT this point he really didn't want to say.. I mean the oviobus is ilke ***** we sweep our site once a week.. i would damn well know if hterew as a virus in our site.. but hey maybe there was. so she says she got it out for him. He's like okay that's great... So where are my progress reports. So she says "how can you expect me to do these when you have a virus in your site! (she actually said this). And everytime he asks for the status report, she says how long she had to spend in his site getting the virsues out.

so at that point he's like whatever. HIS BS meter has went off but she is a woman and she does from a technical point, know what she is talking about. She said that at this point she had read all three documents and that there will be no problems the next day and he will have what he needs (this is important). He asks her is she sure, she says yes of course.

he had one client he really needed to send an update to, so he says look, I need you to send this in the next 5 hours (she said they had been working on it all day) and she says okay.

"so 5 hours pass (by now it's Thursday) and it's not there.

So he calls her up, and says hey.. where is this.

She says that She has questions about the project, and that the project scope is not clear.

he's like what the **** a minute, i sent this to you two days ago and you arejust now telling me this?

this is where it gets funny. He's like okay.. what are your questions do you have and i will answer them so you can move forward. And she goes on for literary, 2 hours, no joke, about how she can't do anything until she gets her questions answered. she cannot be expected to send him an update if she does not know what to do. he's like okay, ask me the questions so i can answer them. she's like i can't send you an update if i don't know what to do!

at this point i'm crying laughing.

Then, on the other two jobs, she says that she needs to "go over the information with her team".. (she did not read the project descripotions like she said she did).. This is now 3 days after she got them.

So then he literary, copies the conversation from skpye and shows it to her where she says she read it, and she says A"how can you expect me to send you an update when i've been getting virus out your site all day yesterday!"

Then on the 3rd of the three projects, she promises him that it can be done in 2 days and she will have it done in 2 days. I know beyond of a shadow of a doubt it's a week job and if she could do this **** in 2 days, than i would hire her my damn self. But she promises him that it WILL be done in 2 days.

So; friday comes and she sends him a link to a job that is about 15% done and she says "it's done".

Then he says dude, this is not close to being close to being done. she says "well how can I get this done when you did not send feedback"...YOU SAID IT WOULD BE DONE YOU STUPID *****! NOT ONLY THAT, she had the feedback, which she said she did not have, she just overlooked it for 4 days.


So in 4 days of talk, she had done pretty much nothing whatsoever, make promises she could not keep and know he has lied to clients becuase of what she told him, then when confronted by her own words, she dodges the issue and bs's her way. She started crying (he says) on the phone when he gets mad at her after all this.

At this point I felt bad for the guy and I took on the jobs even though we really did not have room but he has thrown us alot of work and I was not going to let him go down like that.
 

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My friend is a diplomat. And he said to me it is impossible to do anything with female counterparts.
1. They either like you as a man and want to fvck you.
2. Or they don't like you and then they just ignore you.

They just can't do business, it is always personal for them. You can't invite them for a drink like you would invite a male counterpart - it is always weird in some way . They have their b1tch shields up so any communication is very formal and therefore shyt.

I know a few women who are surprisingly good business-women. They are quite wise, mature, with husband and kids and they behave like good businessmen - no emotions, goal oriented.

I know a lot of businessmen who suck azz. They are weak, insecure/arrogant sleazy bastards. But they don't cross the line too often - first they could get slapped which women do not risk, second - they have to stay in the business - no chance of marring some wealthy businesswoman and eject.

Most of businesswomen I know, just emulate the worst behavior there is amongst men - arrogant, sleazy, lots of excuses but no outcome. Most of their energy is spent on finding excuses and how to look good and I don't mean just make up - fancy talk and presentations but no real achievements.

And yes, they do cry a lot. I have seen "tough" women cry for nothing. They take it too seriously and personally always.

Actually you can't tell if a person is good or not until you see them in the shyt storm. And most of the women start crying and get fvcking sneaky and vicious. Not that most men are different, they are just not that good at it.

So I know a couple of women who are good. They can't compare to the best guys out there but they are good enough, simply because lots of guys suck too. Nevertheless when they are bad, they are the worst.
 

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Don't get so frustrated over this. Women are not capable of completing tasks that require advanced thinking skills. All men should be aware of this. I once saw an MTV show about creatures with low intelligence. It was called "True Life: I'm a woman"
 

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backbreaker said:
She started crying (he says) on the phone when he gets mad at her after all this.
DanelMadr said:
And most of the women start crying and get fvcking sneaky and vicious. Not that most men are different, they are just not that good at it.
That is how women, culturally, are taught to deal with problems. Charge ahead with no knowledge and experience, hope for the best, and if things go catastrophically wrong, cry until some strappnig man feels sorry for you and bails you out.

Human beings, above all, crave drama to make themselves feel significant. That is the value a "typical woman" creates to sustain herself in society. That is her business relationship...she creates drama in people's lives, and in return, people give her what SHE needs/wants.

As BB and the others pointed out, this kind of relationship doesn't benefit ANYONE in the business-world. To the chumped-up masses, though, it's enough to do VERY well socially.

Women will fall back on this strategy whenever going gets tough.

If a man uses a similar strategy, he is mocked and discarded. And rightfully so. :whistle:
 

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And the better a woman is at conducting bidness, the further she is from being a feminine woman. Did you ever see a female CEO with flowing curls and big t!ts? Hell no they look like androgenous aliens from star trek.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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if they were hot they'd be getting their brains knocked out in college instead of studying.

maya angelou said it best.. Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise.

I can count on one hand the exceptions i have made over the last few years about my women rule and every time the experience was similar to above. i treat women just like I treat a man. I will get in a man's ass if he's not doing what i am paying him and i will tear in a woman's ass just as hard with no regard. you wanted equal rights, here you go.
ch laid it out on the table.
 

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backbreaker said:
I can count on one hand the exceptions i have made over the last few years about my women rule and every time the experience was similar to above. i treat women just like I treat a man. I will get in a man's ass if he's not doing what i am paying him and i will tear in a woman's ass just as hard with no regard. you wanted equal rights, here you go.
Equal rights bring equal responsibilities and that is when the problems arise with women in power. When the going gets really tough they revert to the tactics that Squirrells spoke about.

How would you like a female CO in Iraq ?

A female CEO who makes bad decisions may cost you your job, but a female CO who is making emotional tactical moves will get you dead.
 

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funny my little cousin is in the army.. not only is she in the army, she's a sniper. 4 kids. can shoot a grape off your head 100 yards away.
 

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Actually I'd like to have more women as bosses and CEOs.

Why? Because men in those positions are often horrible leaders. And they want you to suck their d1cks. I don't like to suck d1cks and I don't.

Women however don't want that and if they do, well, they don't have a d1ck :-]

And women do like me, at least most of them. Men very often don't like me, especially if they are higher, although I don't challenge their authority consciously and I'm very diplomatic.
 

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DanelMadr said:
Actually I'd like to have more women as bosses and CEOs.

Why? Because men in those positions are often horrible leaders. And they want you to suck their d1cks. I don't like to suck d1cks and I don't.

Women however don't want that and if they do, well, they don't have a d1ck :-]

And women do like me, at least most of them. Men very often don't like me, especially if they are higher, although I don't challenge their authority consciously and I'm very diplomatic.
This is your brain on drugs.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I've had really bad work experiences with women who were at my level. They did more facebooking and chatting than actual work, and overall tended to be highly unstable, emotional wrecks.

However, I have worked for women before and have zero complaints so far. For a women to get to any level of superiority she either has to

[1] Shag the right dude

[2] Be extremely good at what she does, without having to shag anyone

I've been fortunate enough to work for [2]'s, and I tell you I prefer them hands down to many of my male bosses. I didnt have to deal with the same alpha/ego battles and got a lot more work done as a result.

Women are very much equipped to multi-task. I was raised by a single mother and have 3 brothers and 1 sister. She worked a fulltime job and spent the rest of her time taking care of us and the entire house. I know lots of women who do the same - most men would buckle under such pressure. Running a household with a big family is really not unlike running a business, in fact I'd say it's more difficult!

But yeah in general I'd agree with you - most of them are pretty crappy with business, but I think that's more a case of conditioning, than ability or potential.
 

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oh make no mistake there are men out there that should go cut a yard or something..but i just have not had good experiences dealing with women. generally when **** hits the fan.. you are left standing and they are left crying. that's been my experience.

Women are great employees when they do not have very much real responsibility. women don't want equal rights as much as they want 'their share'. equal rights comes with equal responsibilities.. oh no they don't want that. i employee in all 13 people, 3 of them are women.. ****ing great. but you stick any of them in my position, of being culpable and responsibility and hell would break lose in a matter of days.
 

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Razor Sharp said:
,For a women to get to any level of superiority she either has to

[1] Shag the right dude

[2] Be extremely good at what she does, without having to shag anyone

Hahaha. No.

My program manager right now is horrible. The one I had at my last job... also horrible. Neither have much idea what they're talking about, and are pretty incompetent. I'm not even sure why they have jobs because mostly they're just roadblocks to get around rather than helping us accomplish things.

It has nothing to do laziness or anything either. They're just not good at what they're doing and barely seem to recognize what they're supposed to be doing.

Everyone was happy and things were running smoothly the last male I had.
 

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@mrRuckus

Sorry to hear that - few things boil the blood more than an incompetent boss. I guess we can add:

[3] Completely incompetent and unattractive to the point where you wonder who the fück put the bîtch in charge

Really that could apply to most of my male bosses. Just my luck I suppose
 

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backbreaker said:
Women are great employees when they do not have very much real responsibility.
This is key.

Who wouldn't like a boss that leaves them alone and allows them to work freely? However, things can be a lot different depending on the complexity and level of responsibility of the position.

Women who supervise technical work are absolutely horrible.

I remember I recieved a service call to find out why a remote communicator wasn't sending any periodic test signals to a central station reciever, it was also reporting communication failures (locally). I find out that the phone lines had been changed from analog to digital. This requires some reprogramming on my end.

I tell the "lady" in charge that I need to reprogram this communicator and she immediately starts an argument about how the lines had not been changed. I told her that they had in fact been changed and that's precisely why it isn't working. I was the one who originally set it up.

Needless to say she pissed me off something terrible. This b-tch doesn't know sh-t about the technology but somehow is 100% sure that nothing had changed and started a ridiculous argument (essentially calling me a liar) for no f-cking reason.

I still had to reprogram the thing to get it to work again.

Do you know how infuriating it is to have someone who obviously doesn't know what the f-ck they're talking about start an argument with you?
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Tazman said:
Do you know how infuriating it is to have someone who obviously doesn't know what the f-ck they're talking about start an argument with you?
Indeed I do. I have spent almost 30years in electronic process control at mil spec level. I empathize with you Tazman. Trying to talk "tech" with dumb civilians is mindnumbing.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
This is your brain on drugs.
Nope. I don't do drugs. Drugs are bad, m'kay.
 

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I think what we are discussing is similar to athletes:

The best male athlete is way better than the best female athlete. However it does not mean the ordinary female athlete can't beat me. And for most of the everyday life races their speed is sufficient.

When shyt hits the fan almost any boss I've known went ape shyt, blaming everyone else, unable to take responsibility or stick to the finding a way out. I think you need some tough experiences to be able to remain calm.

My grandfather always said:"The worst death is from being terrified."

And he also said:" Live your life well, because life is like steps to hen-house...short and sh1tty."
 

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jophil28 said:
Indeed I do. I have spent almost 30years in electronic process control at mil spec level. I empathize with you Tazman. Trying to talk "tech" with dumb civilians is mindnumbing.
this is about half my client base lol.

I have a client right now that has an adult gay site that we just finished, the guy is not able to upload vidoes over 50mb. that's a problem. well the issue is his php.ini file needs to be changed. we can't do that. only his hosting people can. so he calls me like 5 times a day cursing ME out when it's nothing we can do. i can't even call his company becuase we aren't him.
and the problem is he is too stupid to know what to tell them. so we are in this big circle that he just picks someonee to blame and that person is me.



then i have another client that changed all his site passwords for securtiy reasons, will not give them out, yet wants updates made through osmosis to his website. talk about mindnumming.
 

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Women are HORRIBLE in the business world. That's all I have to say on that, there are just WAY too many examples to list here.
 
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