Women have it better, it's better to hit your prime in your early 20's

[JdelaSilviera]

I know that some of you will say: "Stop whining and hit the gym" lol, but I would like to see your thoughts on this,.

First one must remember a post Jaylan did a few months ago, where it showed a 60 yo women, who could get sex with younger dudes easily. So despite the fact that male value may increase with age, the truth of the matter is that women no matter what age they have, will have easier sex.

It also seems to me that in general young women are much happier than young men, of course sometimes their energy and laughs could just be a mask, but overall they seem to me much happier. (Most) young women are always smiling, know lots of people etc. while you tend to see much more dudes who seem to lack energy or are boderline depressed.

There are many factors to be taken into account when it comes to happiness, but the attention/love the opposite sex gives you is for sure, very important.
From 16 till 25/26 most women live a paradise indeed, even average girls often
fvck models. They are young, no responsabilities, and they have all the ingredients to live a happy youth.

Many guys on the other hand, suffer from acne or are ultra skinny till later.
So let's say you start looking good, and be more confident at 24-29. Sure you can still score some young p*ssy, but there will be a few issues. You will have
super hot young girls 17-19 looking at you (especially if you look young and just a few years older), but then they might be scared of your age. And girls in the hotter range, are more difficult to meet, because your social circle barely meets hers. While this wouldn't be a problem a few years earlier.

If you peak even later, let's say in your thirties, the best you will generally have is girls around 26-29, many of them anxious to get married. I'm paying more attention this summer to women bodies and age, and most 26+ women are done, some of them don't even use makeup or sexy dresses to go to clubs almost as they are "retired".

So you are at your peak, but not getting the best women. What's the fun of having an army of fatties (most 26+ women) trying to get a ring from you... also you have a job and many responsibilities now, and it's simply not the same...

And btw, regards nightclub game I have very huge doubts that you can score hot girls as you get older. Older guys just drink at stare for the most part...

 

[zinc4]

I'm 32 and do ok at the nightclubs....even the ones geared towards 18-21year olds...it's all in your mindset and of course physical appearance... I know a 42 year old who cleans up around here and he looks 50....just your mindset and attitude...

 

[Who Dares Win]

There are exceptions of course but as a general rule I may agree with op.

No matter how tight your game is or well built your body, if you are 30 you very hardly are gonna get that 18 yrs old bombshell type which you only dreamed in high school because she is probably getting railed from the hot guy her age which is part of her social circle.

Also it exist the social circle problem because even if you may have what it takes to turn on the girl and manage to spend time with her, dont forget that before 25 the opinion of her peers is overwhelming, the sheep mentality of women is strongest the younger they are and hardly a bunch of teenage cvnts would even bother to know you better, you are automatically the old dude trying to bang her friend.

Trust me I perfectly know what Im talking about since I'll be 30 in few months and I dated girls between 18 and 22 in for the last years, unless you manage to isolate her physically and mentally you need supertight game, way above average look and plenty of luck.

Regarding what Op says, well I believe the best would be to prime togheter later when its more about the person and less about the family, group, social circle.

That doesnt mean that a 40yrs guy could not bang a 20 yrs old girl, but again its something more unique than rare.

 

[Tictac]

Women 'have it' different than men.

Better?

Meh.

 

[zinc4]

I just banged a good looking 18 year-old about three weeks ago...I'm 32....just lie about your age and isolate...same routine... different chick...

 

[3agle 3yes]

OP, let me tell you the difference between men and boys.

Boys attempt to adapt to society and care what others think.

Men make society work around them and care little what others think.

The reason why it seems women have it better is because they are passive. Women just sit and stand there and wait for men to approach them...this is EASY.

As men, it is our responsibility to make the move, we approach and we SHOULDN'T wait for any indicators...this is HARD.

Fortunately, once a man knows how to take the initiative and ISN'T afraid when women show initial resistance...he has it A LOT better than any woman.

Women pick from the options handed to them...men make their own options.

Even though it is harder being a man it is a lot more REWARDING.

NEVER EVER be discouraged to go after pvssy NO MATTER wether you're considered attractive....NO MATTER the age (assuming their legal of course).

As men we should ALWAYS be encouraged to go after what we want.

 

[Serenity]

Even if what you said was true I wouldn't care, if that's how it is then that's the game you gotta play. Besides what you say isn't new or useful around here, this has been vomited up countless times. Life's a b!tch then you die, how much it's a b!tch is up to you. You can doubt this or that, but I don't think doubt has contributed much to human excellence.

 

[Cerwin Vega]

I'm 20, awesome body, 5ft11in, good face, soldier;
My 18yo ex left me for a 26 year old short hairy AFC because he's a doctor.

Your argument is invalid.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

OP, let me tell you the difference between men and boys.

Boys attempt to adapt to society and care what others think.

Men make society work around them and care little what others think.

The reason why it seems women have it better is because they are passive. Women just sit and stand there and wait for men to approach them...this is EASY.

As men, it is our responsibility to make the move, we approach and we SHOULDN'T wait for any indicators...this is HARD.

Fortunately, once a man knows how to take the initiative and ISN'T afraid when women show initial resistance...he has it A LOT better than any woman.

Women pick from the options handed to them...men make their own options.

Even though it is harder being a man it is a lot more REWARDING.

NEVER EVER be discouraged to go after pvssy NO MATTER wether you're considered attractive....NO MATTER the age (assuming their legal of course).

As men we should ALWAYS be encouraged to go after what we want.

Another reason why it seems easy for women is because for women it is not a matter of skill or knowledge, being passive does not require knowledge or skill, but being assertive, taking initiative, doing the approaching does, so maybe yes men can gain the upper hand once they gain it

 

[ArcBound]

Change the things you can change, no point in worrying about the rest.

Yes, the average women will have the potential to have a greater number of sexual partners, and yes it might be harder for the average man.

The only thing you can do is improve your lot in life, worrying about things beyond your control just stresses you out unnecessarily and ultimately does not benefit you in anyway.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Older guys just drink at stare for the most part...

So, don't be that guy. When I go to clubs, I drink, but I dance and make and EFFORT to chat to women too.

If you act like the weird old drunk in the corner, that's exactly what you'll be.

 

[ovoxo]

First of all its not all about sex.

Second, Napoleon Hill and other great personal developement/success authors have duly noted that many of the most successful men dont hit full stride until 40+. Apparently thats the age when most finally start to realise its not all about sex and your hormones calm down, dont have so much of a grip on you and you can focus on other things. AKA mastering sexual transmutation.

Third, there's a post by Pook that I can't find right now but he essentially says that females are subject to the genetic lottery (Boobs, butt, etc.. nothing they can do about it besides plastic surgery). But as men we are free to mold ourselves from the body on up, into whatever the hell we want.

P.S. OP, READ THE BOOK OF POOK. And if you have already, read it again!! http://bookofpook.neocities.org/

 

[Maximus Rex]

Rex Disagrees

Life's Cruel Little Joke

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=104364​

Life is a muthaf*cka and is also the ultimate revenge in some cases. While in high school and college, guys will pursue the hottest chicks on campus. (usually these are the well endowed hotties,) At this point in time, it can be argued that women have the power. Attractive women in their late teens and early 20's have this uncanny ability to get guys to buy them things and sometimes even get them to pay their bills simply because men find them attractive.

Young guys will get discouraged and sometimes have jaded view of women, but guys you have to understand life will play a cruel joke on these women years down the road.

As with meat, dairy products, and other perishable goods, women have a definite "shelf life." Hell, they even have a "best when used by date." Women are at their prime from the age of 18-35. It's this 17 yr stretch that women can use their looks to to their advantage, (however tide slowly starts to turn when she hits 25.) Though she's still probably as hot as August 18th, her best years are behind her and from this point on it's all downhill. When she reaches 30, for all intents and purposes it's a wrap. The ass is starting to fall down and resemble some gelatinous substance, her titties are beginning to sag, and she's developing crows feet. Some chicks have good genes (and if they take care of themselves,) these women can possibly squeeze out five more years. Unfortunately, these chicks are few and far between. It's usually around this time women start wanting "a good man." Let me add that if a chick pops out a kid during this time, it's a wrap also. Generally females have baby damage after a pregnancy.

Then there's guys. Guys don't even begin until 25 and our looks don't start to fade until 35, 40 years old. If a guy keeps in shape, He can negate the affects of age. Notice how many chicks talk about the "handsome older gentleman." Simply put, age doesn't f*ck us the same way it does chicks.

Then there's the kicker, the thing that negates even age. Money. While chicks gotta start worrying about getting a guy at 25, we just starting out, fresh out of college and trying to build a career. When it's over for chicks at 30, for men where just hitting our stride. Imagine being a Harvard Law graduate at 30 years old making a high 5 digit or 6 digit salary and you're working out. You'd be able to f*ck probably 85% of the chicks you come across. Imagine being 35 or 40, a senior partner in some prestigious law firm or whatever high powered position you're in and coupled with being single. YOU CAN STILL BE ABLE TO BANG CHICKS IN THEIR LATE TEENS AND 20'S!!!! This is my it's important to stay in school. This is why Leykis recommends against getting into serious relationships until your 25 or achieved your career goals.

So guys don't fret when the hotties turn you down. Stay focused. If you handle your business, in years to come you'll be able to have them. The thing is you'll probably not want them because age has set in, you will probably want her hotter, younger, sister.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Only the good looking women have it better and easier and this is mainly when they are young, starting at 18 and lasting throughout their 20's and some extent early 30's

 

[Good Gao]

So much delusion on this thread, where do I even begin.

I am hitting my late 20s and I have slowly realized that what OP said is true. The 18-22 year old college girls that are at their peaks will rarely if ever go for guys outside of college, I never saw any top quality girls in college with older guys that weren't in college. You guys have no idea of how college even works, most of these girls are either dating the pretty boy in a well known fraternity or the athlete on the football or basketball team. The gorgeous 20 yr old sorority girl that turns heads everywhere she goes is not going to be dating a 25 year old guy ever, forget 30. Even if you do become rich and are good looking, you won't be able to get these girls because their circles will end them alive for dating an older guy. By the end of college, most of these girls will be married, likely to an athlete or rich frat boy.

Then there is the other thing, you won't get the six figure job most of the time. The average person does not even make near that much in his life, unless you really put in the work in your younger years to get a good education and go to the best graduate programs all the while networking, you won't get the best jobs. The competition for the top jobs like say investment banker, employee at Goldman Sachs, and Surgeon making half a million is insane. By the time you get these jobs you will be burned out physically and settle for the best looking girl that gives you attention.

Now for availability. Never in your life will you be around as many hot girls as you were in college. So many hot girls your age range who are single and just discovering their sexuality, you will never be in that situation again in your entire life. As you get older, you realize that the availability of women you have goes down compared to when you were younger. Most of the attractive women at this point are either married or locked down in LTRs and the ones who are single come with a lot of baggage (kids, divorce, mental problems, etc.).

So it does not get easier when you get older, it gets a lot harder and I see this as a guy hitting his 30s very soon. If you are under 20, get off this forum RIGHT NOW, go out and talk to as many girls as you can and fail all you like. Make friends with as many guys as possible.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Pretty dumb, I just dated a HB8 20 year old college student for a year.

It is pretty dumb. A defeatist mindset.

I'm 31. My last six women: 33, 26, 24, 30, 18, 37. Pretty sure that's a general downwards trajectory. Generally

 

[asa_don]

i'm just shaking my head at this sh!t, some of you guys shouldn't even post this stuff, makes you look like a clown.

a guy who is 30, in great shape, great career, great mindset, has his sh!t together, will get hot women from 20-40, the college girls want an older established guy, the older women want an established younger guy, you will clean up with a ton of good pvssy.

your prime should be in your late 20's, early 30's, after you get your sh!t together first, meaning your career, your life goals that you accomplished, so you can be succesful with life, then with women.

your priorities should come first, women should come second, lots of guys put women first in their early 20's, they waste their time on sh!tty women, get nothing accomplished, then lament when they get older that they got nothing done, like this guy posting here.

get what you need to get done first, your career, your mindset, your game, your body in shape, you will be set, the women will be easy to get, then you can choose who you want, instead of having to settle for any old sh!t that most guys do.

 

[Good Gao]

i'm just shaking my head at this sh!t, some of you guys shouldn't even post this stuff, makes you look like a clown.

a guy who is 30, in great shape, great career, great mindset, has his sh!t together, will get hot women from 20-40, the college girls want an older established guy, the older women want an established younger guy, you will clean up with a ton of good pvssy.

your prime should be in your late 20's, early 30's, after you get your sh!t together first, meaning your career, your life goals that you accomplished, so you can be succesful with life, then with women.

your priorities should come first, women should come second, lots of guys put women first in their early 20's, they waste their time on sh!tty women, get nothing accomplished, then lament when they get older that they got nothing done, like this guy posting here.

get what you need to get done first, your career, your mindset, your game, your body in shape, you will be set, the women will be easy to get, then you can choose who you want, instead of having to settle for any old sh!t that most guys do.

where do you get that idea of college girls wanting established older guys? Please do tell.

 

[asa_don]

where do you get that idea of college girls wanting established older guys? Please do tell.

you think 27-30 is old? :crackup:

looks like you don't get out enough to know bro.

when i was in college lots of girls were dating/banging guys 27-30, thats how i know.

So after age 35 is when a guy is too old to attract, pull girls in their early 20's?

that depends on what the guy looks like, the preference of the chick.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

i'm just shaking my head at this sh!t, some of you guys shouldn't even post this stuff, makes you look like a clown.

a guy who is 30, in great shape, great career, great mindset, has his sh!t together, will get hot women from 20-40, the college girls want an older established guy, the older women want an established younger guy, you will clean up with a ton of good pvssy.

your prime should be in your late 20's, early 30's, after you get your sh!t together first, meaning your career, your life goals that you accomplished, so you can be succesful with life, then with women.

your priorities should come first, women should come second, lots of guys put women first in their early 20's, they waste their time on sh!tty women, get nothing accomplished, then lament when they get older that they got nothing done, like this guy posting here.

get what you need to get done first, your career, your mindset, your game, your body in shape, you will be set, the women will be easy to get, then you can choose who you want, instead of having to settle for any old sh!t that most guys do.

So after age 35 is when a guy is too old to attract, pull girls in their early 20's?