Women and phone calls

[Masculinity]

I sell a significant amount of stuff in Craigslist, especially a car here and there. You wouldn't believe how many people--mostly millennials--text me instead of calling. A lot of them won't event answer a call from me, even when I know they're available (10 seconds after I receive a text). I've had people say "sorry, I just prefer to text" for no reason (not busy, not at work, etc.).

A few months ago, I was in the market for a bike and came across a great deal on Craigslist. When I called, the owner told me "I've had dozens of people text me about it. You are the ONLY one who called me; you just can't expect me to take you seriously when you can't even speak to another human being." He sold me the bike.

Calling a woman let's her hear your voice, tone, charisma, personality, etc. on the phone. However, texts are only words on a screen that can be easily misinterpreted by already emotional women. Moreover, texting makes a lot of men look weak. If you don't have the b@lls to initiate a phone call, how can she trust you to lean in for the kiss, to stand up to other men who are disrespectful, get her out of a dangerous situation, etc.?

I've been primarily calling women throughout my experience dating and the results are unbelievable compared to texting. It's similar who online dating( who does that successfully? Very few. Be a man, be a leader, call your girl. Lastly, calling takes out the other three women (your plate's friends) who may otherwise have been involved in crafting her responses to YOUR texts. Are there times when some women won't respond phone calls? Yes. Use texts just to coordinate dates. The conversations take place when you hangout with them.

 

[old_skoolr]

Don't agree at all.

I sell heaps of stuff off local ads as well. I prefer texting as:

a) I'm working most of the time people enquire about an item.
b) If they get on the phone, they start talking about random sh1t, texting streamlines the process.

The time I do call, if it is urgent and time sensitive thing, the whole debate of texting not being manly has been played out too much.

Texting is another medium of communication, don't attack the medium because it feels strange and weird to you.

 

[ThisNThat]

Don't agree at all.

I sell heaps of stuff off local ads as well. I prefer texting as:

a) I'm working most of the time people enquire about an item.
b) If they get on the phone, they start talking about random sh1t, texting streamlines the process.

The time I do call, if it is urgent and time sensitive thing, the whole debate of texting not being manly has been played out too much.

Texting is another medium of communication, don't attack the medium because it feels strange and weird to you.

Actually, I don't prefer texting as I prefer to hear the woman's voice, tones, and flirty banter can be more so conveyed. I personally think that this texting bullcrap is driving us further apart socially. Just read "Bowling Alone" and it talks about "distancing technologies" and how it's keeping things more impersonal and disconnected.

It's as if some people are deliberately not wanting to bond and there's something disturbing about that.

In fact, I've seen women in dating profiles that specifically put, "Not looking for texting buddies...just prefer to meet in person."

Because sometimes these idiots on dating sites are just looking for pen-pals than actually meeting face-to-face. People have taken texting so far as it has come to this.

 

[thatfeel]

I also disagree with calling when it comes to stuff like craigslist. Never had an issue with just texting especially when it comes to bikes or well anything.

 

[Plums]

I sell a significant amount of stuff in Craigslist, especially a car here and there. You wouldn't believe how many people--mostly millennials--text me instead of calling. A lot of them won't event answer a call from me, even when I know they're available (10 seconds after I receive a text). I've had people say "sorry, I just prefer to text" for no reason (not busy, not at work, etc.).

A few months ago, I was in the market for a bike and came across a great deal on Craigslist. When I called, the owner told me "I've had dozens of people text me about it. You are the ONLY one who called me; you just can't expect me to take you seriously when you can't even speak to another human being." He sold me the bike.

Calling a woman let's her hear your voice, tone, charisma, personality, etc. on the phone. However, texts are only words on a screen that can be easily misinterpreted by already emotional women. Moreover, texting makes a lot of men look weak. If you don't have the b@lls to initiate a phone call, how can she trust you to lean in for the kiss, to stand up to other men who are disrespectful, get her out of a dangerous situation, etc.?

I've been primarily calling women throughout my experience dating and the results are unbelievable compared to texting. It's similar who online dating( who does that successfully? Very few. Be a man, be a leader, call your girl. Lastly, calling takes out the other three women (your plate's friends) who may otherwise have been involved in crafting her responses to YOUR texts. Are there times when some women won't respond phone calls? Yes. Use texts just to coordinate dates. The conversations take place when you hangout with them.

Agree, I can't stand men who get jittery when you want to speak with them on the phone. I have had an online friend for about 4 years. I want to hear his accent - New York - I am English. But he is too scared. I thought it was just an odd thing about American men, but you have proven that wrong.

 

[ThisNThat]

Louis CK puts it so eloquently...Louis CK thinks Smartphones are toxic

 

[Masculinity]

Don't agree at all.

I sell heaps of stuff off local ads as well. I prefer texting as:

a) I'm working most of the time people enquire about an item.
b) If they get on the phone, they start talking about random sh1t, texting streamlines the process.

The time I do call, if it is urgent and time sensitive thing, the whole debate of texting not being manly has been played out too much.

Texting is another medium of communication, don't attack the medium because it feels strange and weird to you.

It's not strange or weird to me at all and I'm not attacking texting. Let's make it clear that I use text messages without a problem. What I'm saying is, you should be comfortable making phone calls to women, especially initially.

Texting isn't gendered; anybody can text. I'm saying don't use it as a means to be insecure or shy. A lot of people hide behind the screen of texting. If your situation is more convenient with texting, you do you. But if you're the kind of guy who doesn't answer a phone call from your plate even when you're free, that says something.

 

[Von]

It's not strange or weird to me at all and I'm not attacking texting. Let's make it clear that I use text messages without a problem. What I'm saying is, you should be comfortable making phone calls to women, especially initially.

Texting isn't gendered; anybody can text. I'm saying don't use it as a means to be insecure or shy. A lot of people hide behind the screen of texting. If your situation is more convenient with texting, you do you. But if you're the kind of guy who doesn't answer a phone call from your plate even when you're free, that says something.

I see it in my business... everyone over 45 years old... replies to email maybe 1-2-3 days after its sent... they will pick the phone or they act you call them for any financial related stuff.

35 - 45 ambigous

Anyone under 35.... they don't pick the phone but you sure get their reply email ''hey I miss your phone call'' within the first 2 minutes.... they all over Textos, Emails, never answer the phone or voicemail

Every girls I've dated... never replied to phone call, I got a text instead..

Myself I now prefer texto even with friends and family... cause you can send a clear message over a period of time and get an answer eventually... more than ''having to wait'' before communicating your ''emotions-intentions''

Phone remains for urgency...

It's generationnal and its impressive how ''smartphone,machines,technology,undirect communication'' seems to become a norm and favored by the younger crowd... like if human interaction was a alien factor

 

[Masculinity]

A friend of mine who's capable with women called me today. He says his plates are more responsive when we engaged with a combination of calls initially and texts later on for convenience or setting up hangouts. She's going over to his place tonight to "chill." But we all know what she's really going there for.

This guy has even approached girls walking with their moms and won the mom over to his side. He has been busy doing personal work until now. He now has several plates on rotation.

 

[hockeyfreak79]

I was talking to a plate and texting another prospect about an hour ago, yup at the same time.

The plate doesn't like texting which I think is f*cking awesome. I let most know, during the day I'm busy getting sh*t done. I've dropped some that have complained.

But once on the phone the plate doesn't shut up! I make arrangements asap and then make an excuse to get off the phone. I prefer calling as well especially when making arrangements.

Boom boom, if the chick is a little more outgoing/extroverted pick-up the phone. Even younger "millennial" chicks respond well to calls. Well atleast my calls they have. It's ultimately case by case, I wouldn't say there's one right way or one wrong way to do it. It's all about fluidity and reading them.

 

[Red Legg]

I have been dating a hb9 for 6 months and we fvck every weekend at her house then mine rotating every weekend..I went through my call log and in 6 months I called her twice...she called me 3 times....we average about one text each every 2 days...

 

[BeExcellent]

Calls communicate much more than text, although text is fine for quick exchanges.

Text is efficient but tone, inflection, innuendo and other vocal cues are lost. I like to hear a man's voice.

I'm never a big texter and I very rarely (as in almost never) initiate calls or texts. He might be busy! I hear men complain about how much women pester them about stupid stuff. My father *hated* idle chit chat and was not afraid to say point blank "Get to the point...I'm busy." So I wait patiently and respond if a man I like reaches out. Keeps the stress down for all involved.

Calls can be an engaging addition to your game. A. If she answers your call she likes you...and B. It allows you to show more personality than words & emojis on a screen do.

Avoid calling if you are awkward over the phone or if you have diarrhea of the mouth. Limit calls to 10 minutes. Set up a date & get off the phone.

 

[marmel75]

Don't agree at all.

I sell heaps of stuff off local ads as well. I prefer texting as:

a) I'm working most of the time people enquire about an item.
b) If they get on the phone, they start talking about random sh1t, texting streamlines the process.

The time I do call, if it is urgent and time sensitive thing, the whole debate of texting not being manly has been played out too much.

Texting is another medium of communication, don't attack the medium because it feels strange and weird to you.

I agree 100%. People DON'T LIKE talking these days. I do, however, agree with the OP that texting can be taken out of context very easily which is why if you don't feel comfortable with it you should keep it to a minimum the first few dates until she has some context. Texting is a skill just like anything else. The more you practice the better you will be. Some are obviously better than others at it naturally, but it's not that hard to become better than average at texting. Most guys are TERRIBLE at it...they text lame ass things and act desperate. It's not hard to stand out ina good way.

 

[SmooveMooves]

• Young women will not answer phone calls.
• Calling a woman over texting her does not give you an edge.
• The bike salesman was a díck, if he was only going to sell it to someone who had called him, he should have listed"*CALL ONLY."
• Yes, younger generations have worse social skills than past generations
• Knowing how to text effectively is a good skill that has gotten me laid many times. Rather than avoid it, men should learn to text appropriately.
• Technology is a huge part of our lives. It is only going to increase. Adapt.

 

[ThisNThat]

I agree 100%. People DON'T LIKE talking these days. I do, however, agree with the OP that texting can be taken out of context very easily which is why if you don't feel comfortable with it you should keep it to a minimum the first few dates until she has some context. Texting is a skill just like anything else. The more you practice the better you will be. Some are obviously better than others at it naturally, but it's not that hard to become better than average at texting. Most guys are TERRIBLE at it...they text lame ass things and act desperate. It's not hard to stand out ina good way.

Quite the sweeping generalization....I like to talk. You assume way too much in this post?

 

[marmel75]

Quite the sweeping generalization....I like to talk. You assume way too much in this post?

I'm speaking in general terms. It's pretty well documented that talking on the phone is viewed as an interruption of their day to most people now.

 

[ThisNThat]

I'm speaking in general terms. It's pretty well documented that talking on the phone is viewed as an interruption of their day to most people now.

Right, I get that and pretty much people are glued to their phones when in a waiting room or in line somewhere, so you won't be able to strike up a conversation with someone. Sad.

 

[bigneil]

In 9 months of dating, I have called my girlfriend 0 times and she has called me 0 times.

Meanwhile, she and I have texted each other on at least 200 different calendar days.

I don't like talking on the phone and neither does she - and it's for a reason - cell phones are extremely unhealthy to talk on. I personally feel like my brain is being microwaved. What is worse is, the timing of a cell phone is off so you don't have that subtle, seductive quality that land lines have, where it's like you're really in the same room. They give me a headache and make me feel angry also.

Skype isn't bad these days, and I wouldn't mind talking if we both had land lines, but I never talk on my cell phone to anyone.

 

[old_skoolr]

I agree 100%. People DON'T LIKE talking these days. I do, however, agree with the OP that texting can be taken out of context very easily which is why if you don't feel comfortable with it you should keep it to a minimum the first few dates until she has some context. Texting is a skill just like anything else. The more you practice the better you will be. Some are obviously better than others at it naturally, but it's not that hard to become better than average at texting. Most guys are TERRIBLE at it...they text lame ass things and act desperate. It's not hard to stand out ina good way.

The main point I was trying to get to OP is that as DJ, we should be comfortable communicating in any medium, regardless if text, phone call, emails or in person. I've seen enough of the moronic arguments about "texting makes men look weak" "calling is for old people", just plain dumb. Learn to do both well and that way you can be able to identify which medium the girl is most comfortable communicating with and use that.

 

[ThisNThat]

The main point I was trying to get to OP is that as DJ, we should be comfortable communicating in any medium, regardless if text, phone call, emails or in person. I've seen enough of the moronic arguments about "texting makes men look weak" "calling is for old people", just plain dumb. Learn to do both well and that way you can be able to identify which medium the girl is most comfortable communicating with and use that.

Very good points. I've been doing both so long that they are starting to appear like one in the same, but...I noticed that the texting part will drive people apart, or keep people from meeting in person.

It seems that texting spoils future possibilities and by the time the date comes around, they flake and its as if being a texting buddy is satisfying enough and face time is irrelevant to them.